FPS drops in multiplayer due to processor limitations?

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Hello everyone. I was hoping to get some opinions about an extremely annoying problem I am having with huge FPS drops in Elder Scrolls Online PvP (player versus player). I do not have these same problems in PvE (when I'm not surrounded by 50 other players spamming all sorts of action skills) nor do I have any problem at all whatsoever in other online games.

I have a GTX 770 (listed all specs below) that I purchased last week, and still I get enormous lag + FPS drop in big fights (with multiple other players around/lots of action occuring at once). I have no idea how to remedy this problem but it is extremely annoying especially considering I dropped hundreds of dollars on this new GPU and the fact that the ESO support people cannot/will not assist in making any reasonable recommendations. The only thing I can think of at this point is that perhaps my processor is not good enough to handle the PvP in this game? Also, whenever I play ESO I set priority to "High" in task manager, and go to extensive pains to close all ancillary background programs that are running.

Speedtest.net stats on internet connection:

Download speed: 94.94 Mbps
Upload speed: 95.59 Mbps

Computer specs:

Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2500K CPU @ 3.30GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.3GHz
Memory: 8192MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 8168MB RAM
Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770 2.00 GB
Monitor Name: ASUS VG2488 (144Hz)
Refresh rate: 144 Hz

Even though this may not mean much, I wanted to list my in-game video settings - I feel I am really selling my GTX 770 low with these trash settings but I wanted to do what I can to improve performance without making the game seem like its being played on 15 y/o Pentium 2.

In-game settings:

Resolution: 1920x1080 (native resolution)
V-sync: Off
Antialiasing: Off
Graphics quality: custom
Texture quality: High
SubSampling quality: High
Shadow quality: Off
Water reflection quality: Off
Particle Density: Low
View Distance: 40
Ambient occlusion: Off
Bloom: Off
Depth of field: Off
Distortion: Off
Sunlight rays: Off
Grass: Off

Also for completion I did a traceroute to the North American megaserver of ESO and pasted it here: http://pastebin.com/ii2PiCVZ

Thank you for your time guys...
 
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no online massive player games run good. they dont make games for multicores very well. try adding graphics settings, i dont think the hurt the fps drops much since its the cpu that limiting. i think its a combination of cpu getting more optimization for multithreading and less single core performance and game engine coding
 
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Yes sir, I do believe this game is in general very poorly optimized for the pvp content.
 
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Very good website, thank you. My power supply is 650W. I'm not sure what to do next to help remedy this problem except perhaps accept that I will have to suffer dealing with enormous lag anytime there are large teamfights.
 
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A gentlemen on the ESO forums (not the support staff itself) did reply with this (posted below). It is the first I am hearing about it, and it is interesting. I will be the first to admit I am in no way anything approaching an expert on hardware or graphics or game design, but I am trying to figure out if there is anything I can do about it to make my PvP experience better, since gaming is really my main hobby and the only thing I enjoy outside of my long days of work/school.

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It's the game engine. Zenimax engine spawns 32 threads across your CPU cores. Unfortunately thread 0, which is needed to render graphics on screen, always runs on one core and does 95% of the work. As a result, when you're in PVP and you are near 100s of players, the game slows to a crawl.

You can test this yourself by opening task manager, go to CPU, set it to one graph per CPU (right click), then set always show on top from menu and place it on your screen. Go to PVP. You will see almost all usage on one core. Even in PVP near big battle if you look up at the sky (so no graphs rendering), you will get 20fps.

I had a good look at the engine and basically, it dates back 6 years and was designed for dual core CPUs. People don't really use dual core CPUs now. The problem is it scales terribly. If you look at something like Battlefield 3 or 4 you will see during those big battles, all the CPU cores are used to distribute load.
 
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^^well that makes sense and overclocking the cpu would certainly help at least a little since that one big thread would be running faster. With a good overclock around the 4.5GHz mark you would be looking at something like 35% increase. Would need a good aftermarket cooler for that thou...
 
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Right now what's going to help you the most is your CPU. Graphics wise ESO is tailored towards the lower end cards, it'll run medium to high settings in a 750ti no worries, so your 770 is more than capable of high-ultra even in multiplayer.
You are fortunate, you have a respectable CPU. Get it OC'd. 4.0+. The faster you get it, the higher your fps are going to be in multiplayer.
 
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The problem with that though is I have no idea how to overclock my CPU, and with my clumsiness/impatience, I would more than likely cause a fire or something........ but then again, I do have the Intel Tuning Utility installed and maybe when I finish my last final this Friday I can start looking into how to do this...
 
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Those oc softwares tend to use rather excessive voltage so the max achievable clockrates are typically lower as the heat output skyrockets and temps get too high too soon. Manually tweaking the bios settings is always the best option. You should check out the overcloking section of these forums, somewhere in there should be good quides for the second gen core i cpus.
 
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