Please! Need help deciding an efficient Pc.

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Hello,
I would like to first introduce myself, My name is Ranal and I am new to the knowledge of PCs but want to know more. I am serious Gamer/Film & Image Editor. None of which are of Profession but I love it and I plan on one day making it a career choice. So I recently moved out of my Parent's home and I have only a laptop that really can't perform like I would like it to. (I picked it up one Friday night called Black Friday for my girlfriend, so of course you know its not the best for what I may need it for).

So, I've been doing a lot of research trying to learn more about Computers. Trying to figure out what's the best efficient PC, fast, long-lasting (so I can always build on it), something that can have gaming performance at its best(max/ultra settings), and something that can run programs such as Photoshop, Premier, After effect simultaneously. My Budget is $4000 Max but maybe 5000 if worth it. Now I know I have the option to build but I really don't have a clue where to begin. I don't know whats of importance of getting the right case or motherboard does it mean I will have more or less ports to install gaming cards or would it fit by size with adding a cooling system and whether how to over clock processors or cards and not have them overheat. Which means I will waste my money if something happens to the machine and I have no warranty being that I built it myself. Its not a chance I'm willing to take, so I've been searching several sites for a great custom PC.

I came across a few (Ironside, Digital Storm, Cyberpower) and I've been the most interested in the Origin PCs (Millennium). They seem to give you the best and over clock your system and the cases look pretty cool, But it does come out a little over my budget when I finish Customizing. What I'm having a hard time deciding is what I need in this custom build and what I don't so that it wont be so expensive. Also what parts I can save from getting so I can purchase from somewhere cheaper(Amazon) and install it later myself. And also whether I am making the right decision, if this computer is even needed for what I want out of a PC.

If anybody with knowledge can talk with me into buying and saving for the best performance and custom building PC I would really appreciate this help. Also, Whether it matters to buy a laptop or desktop. I know one you can take with you(portal) and one you cant but what are the other pros and cons. Thanks
 
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A build like this leaves you a lot of cash left over, will run whatever you want at max settings (1080p) and is a very respectable work-horse for even professional users. Plenty of room left in the budget to deck yourself out with a good monitor (if colour accuracy is a concern, I recommend an ASUS ProArt monitor) and peripherals.
Its upgradable, you have room for SLI later on since the motherboard and PSU can handle it.

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CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($334.98 @ Best Buy)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO...
Hmm...
I recommend you build your own PC. Going through a company to get the PC adds a lot of service cost and pretty much shackles you to their tech support if something ever goes wrong. The kind of PC your looking for, they arent really the ones to provide it either, they'l sell you a $4000 computer that's no better than what you could make yourself for $2500 (for your purposes)
Parts to pick, if you want I could come up with a build that's suitable for you. Actually building it, its LEGO for adults, if you know squares go into square holes and can read instruction manuals, you can build a computer.

My advice, your budget of $4000 is way more than you need for what your after. Your looking for a gaming rig that can also act as a hobbyist work-station, something like that is definitely possible on $2000.
 

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Hey Buddy,
I wish to tell u something. Do not go for custom built pcs like Origin PC etc. First, since u r new to pcs, u dont need a $4000 pc. First lets start off with a $1000 pc. Trust me dude! Dont go for very high end and complicated stuff without knowing about computers, overclocking and stuff. Heres a good build : http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3HYkH

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3HYkH
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3HYkH/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3HYkH/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.29 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock H87M Pro4/ASM Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($96.97 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($199.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($79.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB ACX Video Card ($249.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Define Mini MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($47.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1044.17
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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This build can give u very high-ultra gaming on like most games on a single monitor at 1080p resolution for like 2-3 years. For now, i recommend u to buy this build. Before u buy a better premium build, learn about pc, gaming, overclocking, crossfire, sli and more other stuff and get used to it. Then u can buy a superb gaming pc that u wish to buy. A nice pc which suits ur needs. U wont be disappointed if u go with this build. If theres anything wrong, feel free to comment back.

And another thing i wanted to say. Laptops are pieces of crap when compared to a gaming pc. Please forget about laptops atleast until 2015 (coz thats when intel broadwell which has almost the same power of a desktop launches and will be available on laptops)
 

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@manofchalk I would like to see what is it you could come up with.

@charanjit1998 I took a look at the layout and I have some questions. I want to play all the latest games(watchdogs, gta, assassin's Creed blackflag) at ultra setting and high frame rate. With the graphic card you provided I'm not sure if it can do so am I right? At resolution being at 1080p and a performance level at low or mid I mind as well stick with console. Also what about fans and liquid cooling system is a good needed if I'm not over clocking. Also isn't me having sli a plus so I can use more than one graphic card. I don't want to have to only have one and have to continue to go out and by the latest when my machine doesn't meet the requirements later in this 2-3years. How much or how far can I build with this pc layout build.
 
A build like this leaves you a lot of cash left over, will run whatever you want at max settings (1080p) and is a very respectable work-horse for even professional users. Plenty of room left in the budget to deck yourself out with a good monitor (if colour accuracy is a concern, I recommend an ASUS ProArt monitor) and peripherals.
Its upgradable, you have room for SLI later on since the motherboard and PSU can handle it.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($334.98 @ Best Buy)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($27.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.69 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Gaming Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($144.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($139.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($83.97 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($709.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair 450D ATX Mid Tower Case ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G-750 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1890.56
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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Hmm...
U cant play watchdogs on ultra, but u can play it on high or very high. Games like AC 4 BF, GTA V can be played on very high to ultra. Please dont ever compare this pc to a console again. Even this pc eats consoles for dinner. If u want like even high end, ill recommend u a build that can play like every single thing maxed out. OK?? But thats gonna cost a little bit. Before we move on to the pc build, ill let u know a few things about sli and crossfire. I totally dont recommend sli or crossfire. One powerful graphics card (gpu) is better than two less powerful graphics cards even when two gpus cost higher. Two gpus consume a lot of power, leads to uneven temperature distribution, lesser frame rates in some games, micro-stuttering (I think both companies have eliminated this hurdle now), etc. U can have two or more gpus in sli or crossfire if u want the most powerful pc or so like that.
OK, now heres the build:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3I0Qq

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3I0Qq
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3I0Qq/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3I0Qq/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($334.98 @ Best Buy)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H80i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste ($6.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus Maximus VI Gene Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($193.78 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($199.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($79.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB DirectCU II Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($689.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB DirectCU II Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($689.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair 350D Window MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($88.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair RM 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Asus PB278Q 27.0" Monitor ($482.99 @ NCIX US)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF120 Quiet Edition (2-Pack) 39.9 CFM 120mm Fans ($24.15 @ NCIX US)
Keyboard: Corsair Vengeance K70 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($107.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Logitech G9x Wired Laser Mouse ($77.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $3377.69
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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I've suggested u an unlocked processor which can be overclocked. Bcoz games like watch dogs needs a powerful processor. Ive also suggested a 1440p monitor bcoz it is really a beastly pc. Although it is micro-atx, it has all the features of an atx board. I suggested u a sli build bcoz the gtx 780 ti is a very powerful graphics card. U cant ask for more. Two gtx 780 tis can do anything. U can even have a single gtx 780 ti but make sure u get one in the future or buy a 650 W PSU instead of 850 W. Dont worry of the risk of overclocking and all. Watch many youtube videos on how to overclock. Overclocking is actually easy but it is a little dangerous, i.e. u should'nt make any error in that. U should be careful while ocing. If u dont ever wish to oc, then ur better buy the i7 4770. Coming to the keyboard, mechanical keyboards are the best for gaming. If u dont wish to spend much, u could just use a normal one. Select any keyboard, mouse, os etc that u think would be nice. Just dont spend much in any other keyboard other than mechanical keyboard. If u dont like this build, please say to me..

Edit : U can even add (2x8) 16 gb of gskill sniper coz this is a very powerful gaming pc. And also, u can have a 1080p triple monitor setup if u need it.
 

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@manofchalk thanks for getting back with me with your build, a few questions, what about with the case fan, would I need one with this build if so what is recommended. Also when you say max settings at 1080p what if I'm looking to go higher resolution in the future would I still be able to have it at max of ultra with this build or can I upgrade it. Is there room to add exactly how many cards out of curiosity. Also can this include a optical drive. And what do you think of charanjit build.

@charanjit1998 sorry for the comparison it was meant to be more of a question. I know pc have much more power than console, I'm just looking to play a the best visuals I ever seen and at great performance. With you build it seems great if what your telling me it can play games at ultra. I have a few questions as well. When you were discussing graphic cards you said one very good better than two. So with the one titan black is that better than two 3gb 780 TI. And with the more graphic cards or with over clocking does that mean I will need a better psu of like 1000w. also how do you feel about manofchalk build. Not trying to start anything just want to know what each other thinks. Edit: what would a triple monitor be use for you have more than one screen for multiple things at once showing? Meaning I can connect more. Also wit with both builds I wouldn't have to worry about overheating?

For both of you I have questions what about sound cards are they necessary? What about Adding internal or external networking adapters/capture cards? Is this all possible no matter the motherboard and case? If I choose a better looking case can I still incorporate this build into it? And with graphic cards if they are of the same model but one is from asus and the other gigabyte or Nvidia does it matter if I use together will it function. Sorry with the question just want to buy a satisfying machine that I can have more than 5 years. Thanks again to you both. I'm going to look into every piece you both have given. Sorry if typos on my cell.
 
Case fans come with the case itself, I tend to not add fans to a build until after I have made it. Fans can get expensive, no need to buy them if you dont really need them, which is often the case.
That card has the strongest single GPU performance on the market right now, chances are you could get maximum settings at 1440p with a few compromises on frame rate and lesser settings like AA.
You can have a maximum of two cards in the build.
Optical drive should be compatible, just throw one in as they don't really matter anymore.

Charanjit's build, tbh it looks like he has just ramped up the expense for not much gain. In terms of video editing performance, its worse off than mine (8GB vs 16GB) and gaming is already covered unless your going after a triple screen or 4K setup.
Triple screen setups are pretty awesome, I have one and its great for productivity. That sheer amount of desktop real estate means you can have near everything open at once at a good size. Ever had the situation where your writing an essay and constantly tabbing between Word and your research, and to give each half the screen means that its a horrible experience for both? Multiple monitors alleviates that. If you have three monitors (need to be identical on Nvidia) you can also game across the three of them.

Sound cards, or at least expensive ones, arent worth it unless your already an audiophile. If your running a ~$100 gaming headset, maybe pick up a cheap sound card purely for the headphone amp, but dont get anything special.
Networking adapters would only be necessary if you need to use wireless, or you have a beefy 10Gb/s home network.
For my build, as long as it supports Micro-ATX or larger, its good. Though if you do end up with an ATX case, I would recommend getting an ATX board.
 

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The Titan Black is a highly expensive card. U'll not be getting much for ur extra bucks. manofchalk's build is great. I suggest u go for that. My build is very expensive but it only results in very less performance increase than manofchalk's build.
 

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Sounds all good. When you said "That card has the strongest single GPU performance on the market right now, chances are you could get maximum settings at 1440p with a few compromises on frame rate and lesser settings like AA" is this going based off one graphic card (780ti)?

Also when you said "For my build, as long as it supports Micro-ATX or larger, its good. Though if you do end up with an ATX case, I would recommend getting an ATX board." what question were you referring to? And and so this means any mother board you get you have to make sure what's compatible with it before buying/building or it won't function? Does cases really matter? Better question what cases should or can I use for this build that looks a little appealing?

You also said with the triple screen you can play games on all three. Does this mean you picture will look larger? Doing triple screen what would be needed to add to your build?

Two slots for graphic cards are definitely more than enough, so why is it origin advertise having 4? Also when the time comes and I want to overclock my cards and processor if something did go wrong is my pc destroyed or just what I tried to overclock? And would I need I stronger psu or liquid cooling? What might be needed if I want to overclock?

@charanjit1998 thermal compound, would that be needed.
 
Yup.

My comment on mobo compatibility is because you mentioned you might go with a different case.
Motherboards have different size form factors (small ITX -> MATX -> ATX -> EATX -> HPTX large), just make sure that whichever your motherboard is, its supported by the case.
What looks appealing is your preference, if you want case recommendations based on aesthetic I need to know what you like first.

Not so much larger, but you see more.
Nothing would need to be added, just screens. Playing at that resolution you might want to throw another graphics card at it if you want to max things out with a good FPS, but for most games a single 780Ti will perform adequately at high-ish settings.

X79 platforms have more PCIe 16x slots than mainstream platforms do, so its possible to run Quad SLI/Crossfire on those. Though multi-GPU scaling beyond two cards degrades pretty badly. If one card is equal to 100% performance, the performance of two cards is 180%, three cards is like 230% and Four is like 260%. As you add more cards your getting less performance each time, so its not that good an idea value wise.

Generally if you mess up an overclock (and you would have to mess it up very badly to fry something), only the component being tinkered with would take any damage.
PSU is fine for overclocking that rig, and the 212 EVO heatsink should be fine for an overclock too ~4.3Ghz on the CPU.
 

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OK I want to get your thoughts and opinion on something I want to show you. The build between yours and origin.

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($334.98 @ Best Buy)
ORIGIN: Intel Core i7 4770K Quad-Core 3.5GHz (3.9GHz TurboBoost)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($27.99 @ NCIX US)
ORIGIN: FROSTBYTE 120 Sealed Liquid Cooling System
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.69 @ Amazon)
ORIGIN: ASUS Maximus VII Gene
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Gaming Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($144.99 @ Newegg)
ORIGIN: 16GB Corsair Vengeance 1600Mhz (2x8GB)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G-750 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Newegg)
ORIGIN: 850 Watt CorsairVideo Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($709.98 @ SuperBiiz)
ORIGIN: Single 3GB NVIDIA GTX 780 Ti
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($139.00 @ Amazon)
ORIGIN: 250GB Samsung 840 Evo Series
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($83.97 @ OutletPC)
ORIGIN: 2TB SATA 3.0Gb/s, 7200RPM, 32MB Cache
Case: Corsair 450D ATX Mid Tower Case ($119.99 @ Amazon)
ORIGIN : Corsair 350D ATX Mid Tower
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC) ORIGIN: Microsoft Windows 8.1
Total: $1890.56 ORIGIN total: $2860
I put both builds together for comparison, only because this is the reason why I came here to know what's the best thing to do.
So even though the origin comes out to be about $1000 more there is something it has that I wanted to mention and want to know your thoughts. Also included are:

ORIGIN High-Performance Ultra Silent Fans.
On-board network port & Audio.
Avermedia Live Gamer Portable (capture card).
Comes with over clocking graphic cards.
Intel Z97
Also they have a free promotion to include EVGA Tegra Note 7 Tablet with watchdogs.
So my question for you Manofchalk is what do you feel are the pros and cons. Is it still best to go with the build of yours and if so why. Also does the different cases matter? And with graphic cards is it just name brand or does Nvidia actually better? And will I be able to use a Gigabyte GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB & a Nvidia gtx 780 TI together? Also what makes Titan black different, better or worse. Don't hear nothing about it.
And does over clocking cost anything if wanting to do it myself. Just tell me anything you think about the two and I guess from here I'll make a decision on that. I know it's probably better to learn how to build my self v.s buying, but like I said just asking to get as much info as possible. I appreciate both of your helps it's helping me out so much. So thank you again. Edit: and I thought it was good to get Windows 8 right now that's games have problems on it is that true
 
Origin high performance fans just means they fill the fan slots (or replace the stock ones), doubt the fans are any good though.
Onboard audio and networking is them selling the motherboards features again.
AverMedia Live Gamer Portable, that could be very useful if your interested in game streaming or recording.

Both of those cases are pretty good, between the two of them it doesnt matter too much.
Nvidia dont sell graphics cards to the consumer (not directly anyway). They sell reference cards to their board partners (companies like EVGA, Gigabyte, ASUS, etc) who either modify it in some aspect (their own cooler for instance) or just slap a sticker with their name on it and re-sell it. Chances are Origin are receiving reference boards from Nvidia, hence why they arent branded with any board partners names. Keep in mind that a reference cooler like what would be on that card is nowhere as good as the Windforce cooler on the Gigabyte card I recommend.
The brand of the card doesnt matter when it comes to SLI'ing them.

The Titan Black I suppose you could say is the best parts of the 780Ti and the Titan. The Titan has a lot of computing grunt but disabled SMX cores (Gaming) which the 780Ti has enabled, but also is cut down on the CUDA cores that make the Titan a powerful workhorse. The Titan Black is a full GK110 GPU with all the CUDA and SMX cores enabled.

Overclocking yourself costs nothing except the price of cooling it.
Windows 8 is fine in terms of compatibility, more people are annoyed at the [strike]Metro[/strike] Modern UI more than anything else.
 

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Very helpful, I would like to be able to keep in contact with you my friend just to let you know how my build is going. I looked up a lot of youtube videos on how to build and it's nothing I haven't done before with upgrading my memory. Just a bunch of placements and snaps. So I will definitely go about building my own. Question with over clocking you said I may need a cooling system can this be installed with any case. And with what other cases that look a little more appealing are good to have, better yet what should I look for when picking a case. I would like to have led custom lighting. Also with the capture card can just make my own purchase and install it on any Motherboard? And I guess with a case if I decide later to get a better one I can still use all my components and transfer no issue? And when or how do I know I may need a much powerful psu? And last question I hope lol what kind of monitors keyboard mouse will you suggest. And if I decide to go with three screen high resolution what additional needs will I have to incorporate into my system.
Edit: I lied another question kind of noob-ish but when you go on Nvidia sites they ask to install drivers is that to help or update your graphic cards. And when I purchase games is it through steam download or disc and if so where would it go if no optimal drive.
 
The 212 EVO in my build is a heatsink for cooling the CPU, your covered in that aspect unless you want to get into heavy overclocking.
Define "look more appealing", I dont know what you like.
LED lighting you can get, look up the NZXT Hue.
You can buy and install your own capture card if you want.
You should be able to move stuff over with no issue.
As a rule of thumb, 550W for a single GPU, 750W for two and 1000W+ for three of four.
Peripherals are pretty much personal preference, look up ergonomic guides for mice so you can determine which one is best you. Keyboards, I recommend something mechanical. Monitors, check my sig, that will tell you what to look for.

Drivers are what let Windows (or whatever OS) give instructions to the GPU. You can buy games however you want, Steam is just a popular platform. You want to install games to the HDD.
 

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I'll start slow for now but if that's a good heating I'll trust your word.

Lol I guess I like how some cases I've seen where you can see the interior (digital storm ode) all the led lights showing through. Even with orbit the front opens up hiding the front base of the system, or it looks like a straight transformer like yours that I saw was pretty nice as well(beast machine). Like though I want my computer to run the programs I like and run games at ultra max I want to continue to learn and build a very efficient machine. I know it takes time and definitely a lot of money which is why I saved so much. Seems like what you been helping me with is definitely saving money and getting what I want. Also just looking toward the future something I will like to have as my hobby doing. Settling down soon with my lady and just need something to give myself some downtime in. But if this is where I need to start that's fine. You been a big help so far on the start of this journey for me.

Edit: if I'm over clocking two graphic cards will 750w still be fine. And would I need a cooler for graphic cards. What was the liquid cooling system you were setting up for?

So with disc how do I install to hard drive without optimal drive to put in disc. Or am I missing something lol.
 
So you want something aggressive looking with a side panel window.
You could check out the Coolermaster HAF series (I have the HAF-X) but its an old series now and lacks a lot of modern features. The Silverstone Raven is an option (and they have a nice rotated mobo). The NZXT Phantom series and the Corsair C70 may also suit. Though in general the case market has shifted toward sleeker looks.

oh, without an optical drive. You can get one if you want, their cheap and theres no reason you cant slap one into the rig.
 

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Yeah lol exactly... OK I'll definitely check them out and they will be able to support any features I decide to put in? Are cases more for look and and mother board is usually for how much ports and etc. Like is there some Motherboards in size that's aren't compatible with cases or fans or coming systems. And with rotation (Motherboard) that means it will help when it comes with wiring.
Edit: if I'm over clocking two graphic cards will 750w still be fine. And would I need a cooler for graphic cards. What was the liquid cooling system you were setting up for?

Looking at the cases now does it matter as long as it's a mid tower that I choose. What do you look for anything special or worth noting. And what's APAC only
 

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I've just order all my parts now I need help deciding on a good monitor, mouse, keyboard. Also what else should I add to the build I just came into some more money and I will like to use toward my build. Budget $1000 now. Man of chalk I looked at your link with choosing a monitor but still not sure I heard ASUS VG248QE Black 24" 144Hz is the smoothest one but is there something I should go with. Or is this fine with my build and will it run with high frame rate with great visuals. I am looking to play ultra and if I decide to get three monitors later would this one be fine. I know I will probably need a new graphics card later. Also with my build do I need additional fans.
 
Gah, sorry for the late reply.

Look at your hand, take note of how your holding the mouse. Then watch this, it will help you figure out which mouse is going to work for you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luCxbVslSFM
Keyboards aren't so reliant on ergonomics. Get whichever has the features you want, has good reviews and from a respectable brand. I recommend getting a mechanical keyboard (and make sure to pick an appropriate key switch if you do) but whatever works.

A 120hz monitor (by 120hz I mean any monitor that's above 60hz) is going to be good for gaming, they are supposed to feel a lot smoother than a regular 60hz monitor. I cant say from experience if the difference is massive, I'v only had the chance once to sit in front of one (A Benq 120hz, one of the first 120hz on the market) once at a friends place. The other direction you could go is a higher resolution screen, that will also more than likely be IPS so you get the colour advantage as well.

Fans, buy them after the rig is built if it needs them. Fans are one of those things that when your building on paper, it can be easy to sink a lot of unnecessary money into and ultimately they arent needed. Seen a lot of builds here where the OP has sunk ~$50 into good fans when its obvious that money was gouged out of the GPU, and they were completely useless.
 

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It's alrigh man, I bought evething that was in the build you provided it should all finish getting to me by Friday. I ended up going with the Asus VG248QE seem the best for gaming and cheapest compared to the ips monitors. And I had went to best by to see the difference between a TN panel and an ips and honestly idk if it was because it didn't show gaming but only video but it didn't seem so much better. Colors are Def higher but I want smoothness. And I had a bullshit laptop for so long and was video editing and use photoshop and it wasn't a horrible image. I also bought a capture card Avermedia, thermal compound just in case I may need it. Mouse that I bought was Etekcity® Scroll X1 (M555) 2400 DPI Wired USB Optical Gaming Mouse reason being only for its looks as with my keyboard being Corsair Vengeance K70 Mechanical Gaming Keyboard and the haf 922 coming in red led(right?) I figured I wanted to have it all red. I don't mind returning w.e if you think I should go with something different. And I'll wait on the fans though I would like to have my case glow inside does that mean I need a fan that's led?