Building mini-ITX/micro-ATX Haswell system ($1,000-$1,300) - Need help with case!

joeaguirre0

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Hello,

I'm building a new smaller PC for myself and a fellow friend. I already have a large HAF X enthusiast system but I plan on selling it. I built that in 2012 and it cost me $1,800. I hope to sell it to at least cover some of this new build's cost. I need help on making a few decisions on my build.

This is what I've came up with so far:
Micro-ATX Build:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.29 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L9i 57.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus H87M-PRO Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($107.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($144.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($107.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($83.97 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB ACX Video Card ($329.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Silverstone SG09B (Black) MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($97.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($75.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1187.73
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-12 00:41 EDT-0400)

Mini-ITX Build:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.29 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L9i 57.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87E-ITX Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($144.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($107.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($83.97 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB ACX Video Card ($329.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Corsair 250D Mini ITX Tower Case ($84.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($75.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1197.18
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-12 00:52 EDT-0400)

Here are my issues. The difference between both builds is $10, the motherboards, and case. I figured that a mITX chassis would be smaller than an mATX. Apparently the Silverstone SG09/SG10 lineup is mITX/mATX and it's only 23 liters in volume while the Corsair Obsidian 250D is 28.2 liters in volume.

Other cases I've reviewed was the Prodigy M (36 liter volume), Betfinix Colossus(30.8 liter volume), Silverstone TJ08-E (30 liter volume), Hadron Air/Hydro (15.88 liter volume, would probably have to go water cooled), and Raven RVZ01 (14 liter volume, most likely have to go water cooled)

I don't mind having a 30 liter volume case as long as it has exceptional airflow. I believe Corsair's Obsidian 250D is larger than the mATX SG09/SG10 because Corsair has exceptional water cooling capabilities, such as the H100i.

As you can tell, I didn't grab an unlock "K" CPU because I won't be overclocking my CPU. I may wait for the Haswell 'Refresher' lineup to arrive, which should be within a few weeks, and just grab a H97 or Z97, although I have no need to get the Z-series chipset other than better build quality. I may overclock the GPU to match EVGA's overclocks.
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TL;DR: SG09/SG10 vs 250D vs RVZ01 vs Hadron Air/Hydro? mATX vs mITX? If you own any of these cases then your opinion is greatly valued. If you guys have any suggestions on the other components, then feel free to let me know. I've built three systems so far so I would classify myself as rather noobish. Thanks.
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I would go with this 1167$ build which is mITX:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($222.58 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M-ITX/AC Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($95.38 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($78.22 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($118.70 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.78 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card ($370.98 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair 250D Mini ITX Tower Case ($84.78 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($111.28 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1166.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-13 12:49 EDT-0400
I personally like the 250D as it looks nice and has EXCELLENT reviews on Newegg.
I got you the best non-K i5 Haswell Refresh CPU, the 4690
The motherboard is mITX and has Wi-Fi, which is great
You don't need an aftermarket cooler if you're not overclocking, stock is pretty good
I doubled the SSD capacity for ten bucks
The 970 is better than the 770 as:
1, It's newer
2, It's on Maxwell
3, It has a lower power consumption
You won't be SLIing anytime in the future, though. One 970 is good enough.
The PSU is one of the best ever on Earth (I don't know abotu the ones on Mars or Jupiter, though:))
 

The i5 already has Hyper-Threading...
 

logainofhades

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Desktop i5's do not have hyperthreading. They are a pure quad core.
 

logainofhades

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In desktop that would be the i3. The dual core i5's are mobile only. How they compare to a desktop i5, I do not know, but the i5 desktop is superior to both.

OP: If i were building a mini-itx rig, it would probably be something like this.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($248.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 120XL 86.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M-ITX/AC Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($144.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($109.99 @ Micro Center)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card ($349.99 @ B&H)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 130 Mini ITX Tower Case ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1212.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-13 13:56 EDT-0400
 

It's not bad, but:
1, I wouldn't use a CLC kit as they can fail, especially the low-end ones.
2, The PSU isn't that great as lots of people said it failed, the SuperNOVA 750 B2 would be better
 

logainofhades

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1) AMD now bundles a Coolermaster Seidon 120, not sure on which version, with the FX 9590 now. If it is good enough for that space heater, it is fine for this.

2) A 650w gold is sufficient for this build. A 750w bronze is overkill.
 

1, They do?
2, I was talking about the PSU itself, not the wattage. The 750 B2 would be better in terms of construction and design.
 

logainofhades

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It isn't necessary, I agree. It is just how I would build one, personally. It could be cheaper, but I do not know how much quieter it would be. Noctua can get expensive fast.
 

Transmaniacon

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It's also 160 mm tall, which often is too big for an ITX case. It is also not that quiet, I have one. The Noctua U9B would be my choice, it's only 125mm tall, will be very quiet, and is still cheaper than the CLCs at $47.
 

You're actually saying that I can fit one in there... You just said the equivalent of ''I don't think you are not going to fit one in there'':)
 

logainofhades

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It has been a long day. :lol: No, it will not fit. Anyway, revised the build with a THG smart buy, low profile cooler.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($248.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Zalman CNPS8900 Quiet CPU Cooler ($32.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M-ITX/AC Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($144.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($109.99 @ Micro Center)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card ($349.99 @ B&H)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 130 Mini ITX Tower Case ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1165.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-13 14:32 EDT-0400

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