Question about fiber optics

Drv30 · May 12, 2014

One of my relatives is a pompous boastful asshole and he also happens to be an idiot.

He integrated fiber optics into his (relatively small) home in Mexico, and he is basically paying ****load of money for a 10 Mbit/s connection.

I have been trying to explain to his daughter (my cousin) that it is superfluous to have fiber optics in such a (relatively) slow connection. He also happens to have about 4 computers connected simultaneously (on average) in his home network, and they are all extremely old and EXTREMELY SLOW computers, which have an EXTREMELY difficult time even loading browsers such as Firefox and Google Chrome.

My question is, is there any inherent benefit in having fiber optics in your house given that there are so many slower limiting factors in the network? Am I correct to think that this was indeed a dumb move by my dumbass uncle?

I suspect he is being ripped off really bad. I highly doubt anybody in the USA is paying extra money to incorporate fiber optics only to get 10 Mbits/s.

USAFRet · May 12, 2014

My question is, is there any inherent benefit in having fiber optics in your house given that there are so many slower limiting factors in the network?

No. Your overall connection is determined by the slowest device in the chain.

On a 10Mbps connection from the ISP, there is no reason to pay for fiber connections and devices inside the house.
Fiber to the home...if that is what is available, maybe. Depends on local circumstances.

But inside the house? And with old, slow PC's? No.

I have Verizon FiOS to the house. 50up/25down. Regular ethernet inside, 10/100 mostly, which is still way faster than the 50Mbps I get from the ISP.

If you have the proper internal devices, and good PC's that can take advantage of it, and you really need to move lots of data around between the devices all the time.....still no. 1Gbps switches and routers are cheap.
Fiber devices is just a waste of money for many years to come.

getochkn · May 12, 2014

What if it was the only option available? What if it was fibre optic or dial up, or some 1mb/s DSL line?

If something comparable is out there, then he may be overpaying. If it's the only option available to give those speeds, then he's not really dumb. If it was 10mb/s fibre optic, or 1mb/s DSL or only dial up, I guess you could refer to me as an idiot as well as I'd go with the 10mb/s regardless of how it came into my house.

In Ontario where I live, Bell Canada is pretty much only installing their Fibe service, which is fibre optic right to your house. This is there standard service. Would you call me an idiot for getting the standard service offered by one of the biggest telcom companies in my country?

USAFRet · May 12, 2014

getochkn :

Right. That's why I said "Fiber to the home...if that is what is available, maybe. "

But it seems as if there is fiber inside the house. Which is almost certainly not needed.

getochkn · May 12, 2014

USAFRet :

Ya, it's not clear where the fibre optic is from the original post.

USAFRet · May 12, 2014

@Drv30,

What is the type of connection from the ISP?
What speed?
How is the house wired? Cat5? Fiber? Something else?

coastie65 · May 12, 2014

I have Verizon FiOS ( 25 down 5 up ) and it is fiber from the source to the computer ( after going through the router ). Unlike copper, it doesn't pull your speed down if you have multiple devices online. We also have Comcast here, but they are not full Fiber. They have fiber in trunk line, but it is copper on the street and to the house. Tyhe land line phone is copper that comes of the box on the house and the TV is COAX that comes off the router. I only have this desktop hard wired and everything else ( Laptops ) including my PS3 is wireless.

USAFRet · May 12, 2014

coastie65 :

You have fiber inside the house?
My Verizon is fiber to the wall and ONT, and then either coax or Cat5e, depending on how you have it wired.

Drv30 · May 12, 2014

It turns out this company called Telnor (Telephone company in Mexico). Is claiming that they actually provide a fiber optic infrastructure in my city (I am skeptical of those claims). (The reason I am skeptical is because to me 10 Mbit/s is a pathetic speed for fiber optics, it sounds more like a gimmick to me).

My uncle is in theory, therefore receiving a fiber optic signal from the company and he integrated that fiber optics system into his house as well (or at least that is what he claims).

In my city there are basically two options (two companies). One is Cablemas (kind of like a Cox Cable) and then Telnor, which provides DSL (and also claims to have implemented the fiber optics infrastructure).

To the other questions, no this is not the only option for him. Telnor is a DSL company. My understanding is that DSL theoretically slower than coaxial cable because of the way it works, but either way, he should still be able to achieve speeds of 10 Mbit/s without having spent extra money on fiber optics (or at least that is what I think).

USAFRet · May 12, 2014

It turns out this company called Telnor (Telephone company in Mexico). Is claiming that they actually provide a fiber optic infrastructure in my city (I am skeptical of those claims).

That is easily done and claims would ring true.

Fiber from their main facility to a neighborhood switch facility. Copper from there.
"We have fiber!"

My uncle is in theory, therefore receiving a fiber optic signal from the company and he integrated that fiber optics system into his house as well (or at least that is what he claims).

I've integrated 'fiber' into the house. Doesn't mean I have a fiberoptic NIC on my actual PC.

One is Cablemas (kind of like a Cox Cable) and then Telnor, which provides DSL (and also claims to have implemented the fiber optics infrastructure).

See above.

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