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First Game PC build in 16 years, budget 750-1000€, looking for some advise.

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May 13, 2014 6:37:05 AM

Hello,

16 years ago i build my first game pc (AMD) and now i want build a new one (not AMD) i play World of tanks on a old stock pc now and it's not playable anymore.

i hope to find some help here in judging the system i want to build i have done a lot of research the last weeks but there are so much more components now than 16 years ago so it's a bit hard to find the small differences between parts sometimes.

Here are the components i want to use ,

1 Intel Core i5 4670K Boxed € 189,50
1 MSI Z87-G45 - moederbord - ATX - LGA1150 Socket - Z87 € 123,99
1 MSI GeForce GTX 750Ti 2GB GAMING € 131,95
1 Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 ST1000DM003, 1TB € 46,86
1 MS-Tech CA-0270GR Xerxes € 41,43
1 Cooler Master Hyper 412S € 30,50
1 Kingston HyperX KHX1600C9D3B1K2/8GX € 60,04
1 Asus DRW-24F1ST Zwart € 14,95
1 Corsair CX750M € 76,-
1 Samsung 840 EVO 120GB € 69,-
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€ 784,22

For the Mobo i have 2 other's that i'm thinking about and for the price it's almost the same but don't no wich is better

ASRock Fatal1ty Z87 Killer

MSI Z87M GAMING (for this i need to change my PSU to a micro ATX) if i'm correct?

With this system i don't want to OC right away but i wan't to keeo the option open for the future,
one of the more important things is that the system stay's cool because my pc is located on the top floor of my house and in the summer it can reach up to 40 degree's .

In the case there are 3 case fans and i also want to know if that is enough to keep the systeem cool.

There is still some left in my budget but i also need a new windows o.s. and want to keep the cost low because i'm with out of a job at the moment.

I hope u guy's can give me some advise about what i've come up with and if this is a ok system for the next few years.


Great thanks in advance and greetz , Peterctv




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May 13, 2014 10:09:50 AM

1) If you don't mind to use AMD GPU, you can find one like R7-265, which is better than the gtx750ti, and it may has similar price. http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00IN71T34/?tag=pcp0f-21
And here is review. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-750-ti-...
2) For the either gtx750ti or r7 265, you don't need the 750W PSU, if you can one like seasonic or xfx, like this one http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00HW979AQ/?tag=pcp0f-21
3) If you use the MSI Z87M GAMING, you still need the atx PSU not the micro ATX PSU. If the ASRock Fatal1ty Z87 Killer has lower price then just take it.
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May 13, 2014 10:22:07 AM

Motherboard doesn;t affect the size of power supply. The case does but almost all cases accept ATX power supply. Most power supplies are ATX sized unless stated otherwise.
Your choice of power supply is overkill. A 450W would be enough. Good brands are : Antec, Corsair(Not VS, CX or CS series, they use cheap caps and is mediocre), Seasonic or XFX
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May 13, 2014 10:32:10 AM

I would go for something like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£160.79 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L9i 57.5 CFM CPU Cooler (£34.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£104.99 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£58.72 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£55.89 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£35.94 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 270 2GB Double Dissipation Video Card (£122.03 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case (£45.90 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£66.98 @ Dabs)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (£11.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £698.21
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-13 18:26 BST+0100)

-Mobo- Couldn't find the Z87 Fatality Killer on the site so just threw the extreme 4 in there for a place holder, the Fatality killer is better
-GPU- the r9 270 is quite a bit more powerful than the gtx 750 ti. The main advantage to the gtx 750 ti is it's low power usage that allows it to be used on some OEM power supllies in pre-built systems in my opinion.
-PSU- Corsair cx uses cheap capacitors (chinese made vs japanese made), for a similar price you get an XFX (made by seasonic, best in industry). If you really like/trust corsair, look for the TX/HX/AX series, they are high quality products.
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May 13, 2014 10:53:55 AM

my suggestion:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£160.79 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£25.45 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: MSI Z97-GAMING 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£113.96 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£58.72 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£55.89 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£35.94 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Superclocked ACX Video Card (£191.98 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case (£45.90 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX XTR 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£73.78 @ Dabs)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (£11.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £774.39 or 950 euro
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-13 19:04 BST+0100)
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May 13, 2014 8:30:13 PM

I'd get Hlias's build except I'd rather get a 990fx extreme compared to an MSI motherboard.
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May 14, 2014 8:56:38 AM

Hi guy's

Thanks for the fast response i've been busy al day researching your advise and i made some changes.

1 Intel Core i5 4670K Boxed € 189,50
1 MSI Z87-G45 - moederbord - ATX - LGA1150 Socket - Z87 € 123,99
1 Asus R7260X-DC2OC-2GD5 € 125,95
1 Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 ST1000DM003, 1TB € 46,86
1 MS-Tech CA-0270GR Xerxes € 41,43
1 Cooler Master Hyper 212 evo € 28,98
1 Kingston HyperX Beast KHX24C11T3K2/8X 2400 MHz 125,95 € 74,95
1 Asus DRW-24F1ST Zwart € 14,95
1 SeaSonic M12II EVO 620 Bronze € 69,95
1 Samsung 840 EVO 120GB € 69,-

http://azerty.nl/winkelmandje/winkelmandje/?legen=1&pro...



swapt > MSI GeForce GTX 750Ti 2GB GAMING for > Asus R7260X-DC2OC-2GD5
swapt > Cooler Master Hyper 412S for > Cooler Master Hyper 212 evo
swapt > Kingston HyperX KHX1600C9D3B1K2/8GX for > Kingston HyperX Beast KHX24C11T3K2/8X 2400 MHz
swapt > Corsair CX750M for > SeaSonic M12II EVO 620 Bronze


I think that this is what it's going to be , but if there are other options i get i wil look into it.

Thanks and greetz Peterctv
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May 14, 2014 9:04:25 AM

Try to go for at least the r9 270 for the GPU, it will be a big upgrade over the r7 260 (the r7 are not the gaming series, the r9 are).
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May 14, 2014 10:05:23 AM

numanator said:
Try to go for at least the r9 270 for the GPU, it will be a big upgrade over the r7 260 (the r7 are not the gaming series, the r9 are).


I've l've seen the r9 270 but when i look at the clock speeds of both gpu's the r7 260 is much faster issn't that better ?

r9 270
Core : 900MHz / Boost Clock : 975MHz (OC mode)
Core : 900MHz / Boost Clock : 955MHz (Gaming mode)
Core : 900MHz / Boost Clock : 925MHz (Silent mode)

r7 260
Core : 1188MHz

Thanks and greetz Peterctv
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May 14, 2014 1:55:21 PM

Clock speed doesn;t determine the performance when comparing different gpu.
The higher the model name the better the card should be.
If you look at the benchmarks you can see a lot of differences.
This source is measuring the 260X vs 270X but it should give similar results but slightly lower performance on both with a 260 and a 270
http://www.techspot.com/review/722-radeon-r9-270x-r7-26...
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May 14, 2014 2:12:42 PM

peterctv said:
numanator said:
Try to go for at least the r9 270 for the GPU, it will be a big upgrade over the r7 260 (the r7 are not the gaming series, the r9 are).


I've l've seen the r9 270 but when i look at the clock speeds of both gpu's the r7 260 is much faster issn't that better ?

r9 270
Core : 900MHz / Boost Clock : 975MHz (OC mode)
Core : 900MHz / Boost Clock : 955MHz (Gaming mode)
Core : 900MHz / Boost Clock : 925MHz (Silent mode)

r7 260
Core : 1188MHz

Thanks and greetz Peterctv


clock speed isnt the only parameter to compare a gpu, memory speed and mostly memory interface are strong parameters.

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May 15, 2014 3:57:15 AM

Hi guy's

Thanks for the fast response i've loocked again at the gpu and have choosen for the MSI R9 270X GAMING 2G , i hope that this system wil get me trough the next 4/5 years.

1 Intel Core i5 4670K Boxed € 189,50
1 MSI Z87-G45 - moederbord - ATX - LGA1150 Socket - Z87 € 123,99
1 MSI R9 270X GAMING 2G € 178,98
1 Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 ST1000DM003, 1TB € 46,86
1 MS-Tech CA-0270GR Xerxes € 41,43
1 Cooler Master Hyper 212 evo € 28,98
1 Kingston HyperX Beast KHX24C11T3K2/8X 2400 MHz 125,95 € 74,95
1 Asus DRW-24F1ST Zwart € 14,95
1 SeaSonic M12II EVO 620 Bronze € 69,95
1 Samsung 840 EVO 120GB € 69,-

http://azerty.nl/winkelmandje/winkelmandje/?legen=1&pro...



swapt > Asus R7260X-DC2OC-2GD5 for > MSI R9 270X GAMING 2G


I think that this is what it's going to be , but if there are other options i get i wil look into it.

Thanks and greetz Peterctv
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May 15, 2014 4:13:33 AM

your system is fine now, go for it.
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May 16, 2014 6:30:23 AM

Hi guy's thanks for all the tips my system component list is final and ready to be bought.
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