My problem with any monitors. Experienced people please help

Jak_Sparra · May 13, 2014

Hi,

I currently use a Sapphire R9 290 Tri-X (it's just one card) with an iiyama ProLite E2607WS (1920x1200). When I play games like Warthunder I get FPS of anywhere from about 79-190+. My problem is that I see a lot of 'lag'. Not sure if that is the word, it could be called screen tear, or maybe input lag. The fact I don know how to describe the problem properly is, in itself, a problem. I tried switched in a test flight so I could get over 100fps and put V-sync on and it made very little if any difference.

If I wanted for everything to look smoother should I spend a lot of money on another graphics card to get even more fps or a 'faster' monitor.
The only thing I know about monitors is that some say they have 1ms response time but can also have significant lag input, or can have 7ms response time yet seem faster then a 1ms monitor.

If I was to buy a smaller 24 inch monitor with a faster refresh rate (120hz) then to get smooth game play would i need to match the fps with my graphics card or not?
Also what about with vsync on or off?

I dont want to spend more then about £250-300, but I want a smooth less eye straining experience.

Any and all advice is welcome please, especially any personal experience on monitor '60 to 120hz' upgrades.

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I also have a small 1280 x1024 monitor on same card always on and a plamsa tv, but the tv is 98% switched off.

Kekoh · May 13, 2014

It's almost certainly the monitor. Since you can't describe it, it could be a number of things. Ghosting, screen tearing, input lag, etc.

If you want a smooth experience, I would get a VG248QE. It is 144hz, low input lag, 1ms response time, 3D capable (for Nvidia), and it has a very high quality stand. It's also around your price range, and it's the best value out of any 120+hz monitor out there.

The 144hz will smooth everything out, and will eliminate any of the issues you are currently seeing. You will also no longer need to use vsync, because the 144hz eliminates visible screen tearing. When you play an FPS game on this monitor, you feel extremely connected to the player - every movement is instantaneous. I would highly recommend this monitor for gaming. I have one myself and the difference is night and day compared to a 60hz ~2ms monitor.

EDIT: Just so you know, even though your monitor is producing 90+ FPS, you are only capable of seeing 60 fps because the monitor has a refresh rate of 60hz. That means your GPU is technically being bottlenecked by your monitor. A 144hz monitor allows it to display up to 144fps.

Jak_Sparra · May 13, 2014

Kekoh :

Awesome reply! Thank you! Couple more question though:- On my current monitor I have to be very level with the screen, a little bit to high or low and it looks a little too bight or dark. Also the colours are a bit not vibrant. What do your viewing ankles look like? And does grass look the green of grass and red look like real proper red, etc?

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Do you know if there is much noticeable difference between 120hz and 144hz?

KevinAr18 · May 13, 2014

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Kekoh · May 14, 2014

Jak_Sparra :

120+ hz gaming monitors will not have as good of colors as an IPS panel, but that's the price you have to pay. You can't have the best of both worlds, at least not at this current point in time. The out-of-box calibration does need to be adjusted to look better, but there quite a few sites out there that detail some of the calibration settings for best color quality. This will be up to you to decide, how important is gaming performance to you? Personally, I would gladly sacrifice color quality for a more responsive monitor. I have the 144hz monitor as my primary gaming monitor, and I have a secondary IPS screen for browsing/movies. That is how you can get the best of both worlds.

As far as viewing angles, the stand is very high quality and easily adjustable, so no matter how you sit you should be able to look at it directly. The panel goes up and down the stand vertically, as well as tilts forward and backwards, and swivels left and right.

There is not a visible difference between 120hz and 144hz, but most of the high refresh rate monitors are 144hz now anyways and they cost pretty much the exact same amount as a 120hz monitor.

Jak_Sparra · Sep 26, 2014

Kekoh :

Jak_Sparra :

120+ hz gaming monitors will not have as good of colors as an IPS panel, but that's the price you have to pay. You can't have the best of both worlds, at least not at this current point in time. The out-of-box calibration does need to be adjusted to look better, but there quite a few sites out there that detail some of the calibration settings for best color quality. This will be up to you to decide, how important is gaming performance to you? Personally, I would gladly sacrifice color quality for a more responsive monitor. I have the 144hz monitor as my primary gaming monitor, and I have a secondary IPS screen for browsing/movies. That is how you can get the best of both worlds.

As far as viewing angles, the stand is very high quality and easily adjustable, so no matter how you sit you should be able to look at it directly. The panel goes up and down the stand vertically, as well as tilts forward and backwards, and swivels left and right.

There is not a visible difference between 120hz and 144hz, but most of the high refresh rate monitors are 144hz now anyways and they cost pretty much the exact same amount as a 120hz monitor.

Thank you all for the detailed replies, I appreciate the time you spent and have learnt something about monitors. BUT, I'm going to wait to see how the new Nvidia's G-Sync, Amd's Free-Sync and the VESA Adaptive-Sync all pan out. I think they will create a burst of innovation and maybe even a price war!!

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