Looking for cooling efficiency for a gaming computer...

Killr_Caboose_2014

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I have the following hardware:
*corsair c70 vengeance with stock fans (2 in front and one in back)
*asus z87 pro mobo
*intel i5 4670k with coolmaster 212 evo cpu cooler
*evga geforce gtx 760 with acx
*corsair rm 750w psu
*hdd, sdd, etc...

I am looking for suggestions as to what more in cooling to add and/or fan orientation to modify.

Thanks!
 
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Not at all. Tho the MoBo headers are 4 pin, they do are NOT capable of PWM control.


I am particularly looking for specifics on just how many fans I will truly need and how they should be orientated in the case.

Answered that above, but here in more detail:

1. From cooling standpoint, more always equals better

2. More slow rpm fans is better than less high rpm fans

3. Use 140mm fans where mountings allow for either 120 or 140mm mountings.

4. If you ask 100 people,m 99 will say positive case pressure is essential. In actuality, positive / negative pressure really doesn't mean beans. The only reason it's important...

jaimelmiel

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Your case is setup for optimum cooling. Two fans in, 3 fans out , with side intake. What you want to achieve is good
"negative Airflow". This means more air going out of your case. than coming in.So you need to pay attention to the Cfm of each fan and its placement. Cfm is "Cubic feet per minute". Usually case designers give you 2 to 3 Intakes in the front , bottom and or side of a case. one rear and hopefully two on top. Your case is set up like this, You Have two in the front. one in the rear,.you can put two on the top. Now the question is how much cfm your fans are rated. to find this out the best way is to get the model # of the fan and google it. Hopefully you find it. If not asume it is 45 to65 cfm. If it is a stock fan. Make sure you purchase fans a little more powerful for your top two fans. the best fans I have found for power "cfm" yet not to loud are scythe fans. For exhaust fans I use Kaze Jyuni 120mm 1900 Rpm Fans for my exhaust Fans .Since the are a little loud at full speed I use a fan controller. Low for normal use . Full bore when gamming. If you have plenty more air going out the rear of the case than coming in you do not need side Fans. The difference wil be pulled in from the side. Always remember good case and cpu cooling requires engineering to a small extent. Ps corsair sp 120 fans are loud as heck unless they are at al low speed.
 

Killr_Caboose_2014

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So here is what I am thinking for the corsair c70 case...

Two stock 120mm fans one @ front and one @ bottom hooked to mobo. 140mm stock fan @ back and one of the coolermaster 120mm (39.7cfm) sleeve bearing silent fans up top connected to mobo. Another 120mm coolermaster 39.7 cfm up top hardlined to psu. Thus I will have two fans in, 3 out for neutral/negative pressure when gaming. What do you think?
 

jaimelmiel

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Your fans are low velocity therefore they will not move a lot of air. I will give you an example. For optimum cooling and movement of hot air in a case. Two fans pulling air in @ 142 cfm. Three fans pulling out air 250 Cfm. These are on a
fan controller so that if I wish I can turn them down when surfing the web or watching a movie ican move them up a little. . When gaming they are full bore . Sound is on and I do not even notice them. The difference in cfm is pulled in at the side opening. your ok with what you have but higher velocity fans in the rear like coolermaster R-4's 70cfm on top. Rear scythe Kaze jyuni slip stream 1900 rpm 110cfm. leave any side fans off then you will be moving some air. I use a sunbeamtech
rheosmart 6. with a controller you can always run silent when not gamming.
 


Not at all. Tho the MoBo headers are 4 pin, they do are NOT capable of PWM control.


I am particularly looking for specifics on just how many fans I will truly need and how they should be orientated in the case.

Answered that above, but here in more detail:

1. From cooling standpoint, more always equals better

2. More slow rpm fans is better than less high rpm fans

3. Use 140mm fans where mountings allow for either 120 or 140mm mountings.

4. If you ask 100 people,m 99 will say positive case pressure is essential. In actuality, positive / negative pressure really doesn't mean beans. The only reason it's important is that unfiltered inlets let in dust which has a significant negative effect on cooling. Since case manufacturer's often provide dust filters, this is by far the easier method for dust prevention. It's a bit harder to buy filter material and custom cut / fit it to every grille opening, so having more cfm blowing in than out forces the extra air out the grilles rather than sucking air in through them.

5. Other than dust, another downside to negative case pressure can surface when you have a GFX card which blows lots of heat out of the case.....as it gets pushed out the back, if you have negative case pressure.it can get sucked right back in, especially if the rear of the case is against a wall or in a cabinet.

6. PWM fans ONLY work on the CPU headers of the MoBo.... you will not get a PWM signal out of a CHA or OPT header on a MoBo regardless of whether it has a 4 pin or 3 pin header and regardless of what the MoBoi Manual says. Some Asus boards say that they are PWM but Tech Support has confirmed that they are not and they have published this on their forums.

7. Movement of air within the case is as important as the amount going in and out, especially in a small case. Look at your temperature monitors to see if you need any spot cooling. For example I have found that a fan mounted on the back of the HD cage does wonders for SLI builds blowing air between the 1st and 2nd card and cutting down the heat from the bottom card being used as intake to the top card. If ya need spot cooling to keep say a bridge cool, look at the Antec "Spotcool".

8. You can combine multiple fans on a single MoBo header, but just make sure the total amperage doesn't exceed the header amp rating (almost always 1 amp) .... make sure to allow for inrush current. My rule of thumb is:

1800 rpm fans = 0.67 amps
1200 rpm fans = 0.83 amps

9. Use fan control via the BIOS or fan software that came with your MoBo. Asus FanXpert2 is a fine example. I am using it to control 2 water pumps and 15 variable voltage (VV) fans:

CPU_1 => Pump No. 1 (PWM)
CPU_2 => Pump No. 2 (PWM)

CHA_1 => Phanteks PCB_1 => (5) case fans (VV)
CHA_2 => Phanteks PCB_2 => (6) radiator fans on XT45-420 (VV)
CHA_3 => Phanteks PCB_3 => (4) radiator fans on UT60-280 (VV)

The PCBs take a PWM or VV signal and use it to control up to 11 fans. Swiftech also makes a PWM one and ModMyToys makes a bunch.... only the Phanteks does both VV and PWM

The FanXpert2 software controls pump speeds from 1500 - 4500 rpm and the fan speeds from 325 - 1240 rpm however, no matetr what gets thrown at it, they never exceed 850 rpm at such point they are completely inaudible.
 
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