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Hi every one..I know this question is asked a thousand times before but its the only platform that can give great answers.

I have an intel xeon 5335 quad core 2.66, 2 processor in a workstation pc..so combined its an eight core pc.
8 gb ram ddr2 ram.
radeon hd 7970 3 gb gpu.
can my pc compete ps4 and its predicted 6 years lifespan??If not then what needs to be upgraded.
Currently it can play bf4 on ultra 1280p on 45 to 60 fps.

thanks in advance
 
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Your rig is perfect, it's got a damn good processor,an awesome GPU and the best part is your rig is in good sync the configuration you got will never bottleneck each other so it will deliver the optimal power you need for gaming and YES it will DESTROY a PS4 easily :)
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http://au.playstation.com/ps4/features/techspecs/

ps4 has integrated graphics 8core low power AMD cpu. A 7970 eats them for breakfast.

you can't upgrade ps4's - they aren't backwards compatible with ps 3 either. Pc's you upgrade graphics card and cpu/mobo as you want
 
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Great question ... I'm going with "the future is unclear"

Socket 771 relies on the 'old' front side bus which is seriously bandwidth constrained. Additionally, being your rig is a 2P design (presumably with 2 DIMM banks) it is subject to the ugly specter of memory page faults due to its NUMA arch.

So ... even with 8GB of RAMs and an HD7970 (not to mention a reduced instruction set from the mid-00s), I suspect your rig would be seriously bandwidth-constrained compared to the new consoles going forward.

What OS are you running?

 
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You're comparing apples to pears to oranges to grapes: they all have a common subset of basic tasks (accessing email, web surfing, online video/streaming, & games), but they have specific strengths & weaknesses.

As i7Baby pointed out, PS4 is not upgradeable -- or at least, IIRC, not much beyond possibly a bigger hard drive: no upgrade to the CPU/GPU/RAM, no adding of peripherals, etc. (Wasn't aware that the PS4 couldn't play PS3 games, though; surprises me, given that the PS2 could play PS1 games, & IIRC the PS3 could play PS2 games; good way to alienate your fanbase is to tempt them with a new console but force them to completely replace their game library). However, there are certain games (or even entire game franchises) that are only available on the PS4 (or on any particular game console) but not the PC, & vice-versa.

If you're mainly looking for gameplay, & will be primarily using non-PC devices (i.e. tablets & smartphones) for "basic computing" purposes, then you probably want a game console. If you want more flexibility in your gaming device, or like the idea of being able to upgrade your hardware as you go along, then a PC is the way to go.
 
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Your rig is perfect, it's got a damn good processor,an awesome GPU and the best part is your rig is in good sync the configuration you got will never bottleneck each other so it will deliver the optimal power you need for gaming and YES it will DESTROY a PS4 easily :)
 
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It is impossible to answer that. However, you can have a look in the past: We are ~1/2 year into the lifetime of the ps4. Top GPUs ~1/2 year after the PS3 was launched were: Geforce 8800 Ultra and the Radeon HD 3870. With these cards, and a top end CPU from the time of launch, AC: Black Flag (arguably a eol ps3 game) should run 720p with low settings, as the 3870 is in the minimum requirement for the game. So if this console generation takes the same way as last time around, a top-end gpu should be able to play ps4 ports at the ps4s eol in approx the same quality. Additionally, the ps4 is weaker compared to the top end cards now, then the ps3 was compared to the top end cards then, so maybe you are good with a mid range card now.

On your specific build I guess the cpu-mobo combo will be the first thing to leave you wanting in terms of power. Anyways, you will need to turn down settings after a while, and you are still dependent on good ports. If you want something that can play all ps4 ports that will come, you will probably have to wait another year imho. But nobody forces you to stay with your build until the ps5 is coming anyway...
 
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If you do upgrade your pc further I would say you can go for GTX 780ti or an R9 290x Vaporx edition but what you have now seems good and if you do run BF4 in 50-60 fps in ultra, I would say you are doing just fine now, save your money for the time being and spending them now would be such a waste as there are so many cards that will come out this year maybe even better than the 295x2 you can buy then
 
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Wisecracker: Direct comparison of pure power/bandwith will not tell him what he needs to know anyway. If the ports are bad, you need more computing power to run a game. GTAIV never run flawless on my 2009 system, while Black Flag runs looking better than the next gen version. Additionally, not all ports have the possibility to turn them down to console levels, and especially upscaling resolutions is usually hard to do on pc.
 
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Well Thanks for all for the answers.Actually i know my PC is a Mutant this is because of my work..I am CG Designer and I want a PC that can develop 3d visualizations,Play Games and Also Make Games .Like working on UDK and Cry Engine and i am very limited with the budget..Thats why i picked this way..What i assumed from all the answers is that my PC if Fine for ps4 life cycle, but not sure that it can play every game on high setting..May be in latter years it will struck to low to medium setting for the ps4 ports but can run all of them on decent fps..Thats what i assumed.
 
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Just to be clear: New games on ps3 now do not have the level of graphics the ports have in high/ultra on PC. Additionally, most are rendered in 720p and upscaled for 1080p screens. You can not expect to play future games at PC high settings, just at settings that reflect the same level of graphics as the ps4 original, and maybe only on a lower resolution screen than you would like. But as I said: If it will not, buy into an upgrade.
 
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Picked you answer as a Solution, But if you can merged the two answers to One it will complete the answer and will help other who have the same question.Thanks

 
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Once again, the devil is in the details. BF4 is not 'CPU-constrained' -- the more graphics power thrown at it, the higher your frames. It is a very poor title to use as an example.

This is not the 'Intel Xeon' of 2014 -- this is a pre-QuickPath Northbridge on a front-side bus running at 333MHz on s771, further constrained (I assume) by NUMA page-fault Hell due to 2 separate DIMM banks (one for each CPU socket).

The other (seriously) over-riding issue is the lack of 'modern' SIMD instructions -- from SSE4 to AVX -- on the older arch.

Paul: That's just wrong, dude. You are discounting nearly 2TFLOPS of throughput backed by GDDR5 'unified memory' for the CPU/GPU cores, and ignoring the simple fact that PS/4 (and X-Bone) coding is now based upon a modern x86-64 instruction set.

It's all of AMD's SIMD extentions, too.

The answer is simply not as clear-cut as some of you guys are making it out to be ...


 
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Maybe I missunderstood your post. My point was, that even if he had a rig that outperformed the PS4 in shader throughput and memory bandwith (which he has not, though I have no clue what kind of numbers to expect from his rig), gaming performance is also ppoort bound. I guess PS4 using x86-64 makes things easier, but developer still need to incorperate hardware support for several configurations, and can not optimize for every single pc out there. So my point was that this information does not tell him what he needs to run "all" ps4 ports, since we do not know how well future games will be optimized for PCs. Also, the ps4 can calculate games in lower resolutions and upscale, to do that on a PC is tricky, andd will probably involve at least two machines.

It's all hyperbole anyway. Wait and see, save up for new hardware, and if you find a game that you want to play and that you can not, buy something new. Nobody here can tell the ffuture anyway.
 
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