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ASUS VS238H-P vs. BenQ GL2460HM

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May 15, 2014 3:43:27 PM

Hello!

I am trying to purchase a new monitor for my computer. I'm currently using a GTX 760. It will be used for gaming & graphic design.

Both monitors are priced about the same, and their small price difference does not alone sway me in my decision, but my budget is roughly $160.

The ASUS VS238H-P seems to be a pretty great monitor. The BenQ GL2460HM has some great features as well, but it has built-in speakers which I don't need.

Obviously, the speakers aren't an issue, as I can just choose not to use them, but I fear that their inclusion in the monitor possibly took a toll on the quality of the other features of the screen, but I have no idea.

Could somebody with an eye for monitors please help a rookie out?

Thank you!

Also, if you have any OTHER suggestions about monitors in the $150-$160 range that you think are a lot better, I wouldn't mind learning of it.

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May 15, 2014 4:44:52 PM

Those are both TN panels, so you should not get either one of them.

For image editing and any type of work where you want proper colors on-screen, then I suggest getting either an IPS or PLS type monitor (or maybe an AHVA).

About TN panels
Most monitors use a TN panel (like the two you mentioned). TN panels have worse viewing angles and will result in colors getting worse at any slight angles. Whites will turn brownish if you increase the angle enough. Also, since the corners of the screen are at a different angle to your eye than the center of the screen, that means the colors in the corner of the screen will be a slightly different color than in the center of your screen (something that people who do image editing might notice).

Now, that you know about panel type. Look for an IPS or PLS (and maybe AHVA) monitor and then consider these other factors:

* matte vs glossy: Do you want a highly reflective screen or a matte (sandy/rough) looking finish? The glossy screens have great colors, but can often give you headaches with all the glare it causes. Many people choose matte because of the glare issue.

* 16:9 vs 16:10 -- Many monitors are 1920x1080 (16:9 ratio). However, another popular size is the 1920x1200 (16:10 ratio), which gives you extra vertical space to work with. This extra vertical space costs more, but is very useful when you do productive work on a computer (like you are doing).

* resolution / screen size -- If you get a 27" monitor with a 1920x1080 resolution, chance are that you will begin to notice the bigger pixels. The screen will have this black grid (like a screen door). For a 27" monitor, the ideal resolution is around 2560x1440. For 1920x1080 or 1920x1200 the max recommend resolution is usually a 24" or 23" so the screen door effect is not as noticeable.
However, to be fair, even at 27" on a 1920x1080 screen, the "screen door" effect is not that bad. I suggest that you check out one in the store... because if it looks ok for you then, the 27" 1080p offers a really cheap option for a large screen size.



So, here's my recommendations:

A general list of IPS and PLS panels you can pick from:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=P...

And, here's some narrowed down results....
Currently, the only ones within your price range are the 1920x1080, however, do give the 1920x1200 some consideration before you make a final purchase.

24" 1920x1080 [16:9] IPS/PLS ($150+):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=P...

24" 1920x1200 [16:10] IPS/PLS ($200-250+):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=P...

27" 1920x1080 [16:9] IPS/PLS ($230+):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=P...



27" 2560x1440 [16:9] IPS/PLS ($300 noname / $500 namebrand):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=P...

30" 2560x1600 [16:10] IPS/PLS ($500 noname / $1,000 namebrand)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=P...)


Lastly here's another option you might want to consider:
IPS/PLS panels that run at 96Hz or 120Hz, like this one:
PLS 27" 2560x1440 [16:9] 96 or 120Hz (~$360)
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May 15, 2014 6:15:12 PM


Wow. Thank you so much for your detailed response!

My budget is quite strict, so I don't think I'll be able to dish out much more than my original range. I saw several monitors that seem to come close to what I'd buy, such as:

ASUS VS239H-P - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Acer H6 H236HLbid - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

However, I notice that the GTG response times are quite higher on these monitors, even on these two which I liked.

I doubt small differences in GTG response time matters when creating Photoshop graphics, but game development is my ball field. I do a little graphic design on the side for personal projects, but if it means giving up fast response times, it's best that I not make that trade-off.

I suppose the only way to satisfy both of these would be to enter the $250+ range in IPS monitors, and I unfortunately can't.

Back to the gaming/video aspects, are twisted nematic screens okay for gaming purposes?
Are either of these two TN monitors good for clarity / speed for gaming, or do I have better options for my dollar?

Thanks for your help!
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May 19, 2014 12:28:23 PM

Actually the small differences in response times won't matter in any task (even games).
The reason for this is relatively simple (and complex) at the same time.
Basically, all LCD monitors have a certain amount of blurring during movement/motion. This blurring has nothing to do with response times, but the way all LCD monitors work.
This blurring is strong enough to cover up any differences between 8ms, 5m, or even 1ms! You can't see the differences in response times because they are covered up by the natural LCD blurring.

At 60Hz, most monitors on the market have a good enough response time that they are below this blur threshold. Only by moving up to 120Hz or 144Hz, do response times matter more.

That is why, if you are going to buy a 60Hz monitor, don't even consider a TN panel, because you will get no performance benefit in games or otherwise. Go ahead and opt for the IPS or PLS screens.


Note: there is one thing you may need to watch out for in gaming at 60hz (although most people won't notice it)... and that is input lag. Some monitors have good input lag, some have bad input lag.
You can check reviews of a model at sites like here: http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/
or a site like this: http://www.displaylag.com/display-database/
or various forum tests on the monitor
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