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Need Help - Gaming rig - Cheap but decent - European Prices

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May 16, 2014 3:11:28 AM

Hello guys,

I live in Switzerland and can order from France or Germany without any issues. I was looking to build a decent - but cheap - computer for light gaming. CS:GO essentially. I am kinda tired of hanging around with my laptop's poor performances.

I want something clean, easily upgradable and suitable for my needs. I do not have a monitor neither but I do have an OS. I did 2 builds - one Intel and one AMD - and wanted your opinion on them. The budget is around 800-850€ top, the cheapest the better, you do not need to reach the €850 threshold... ;) 

Could an i3 be considered ??

In my laptop I have an SSHD, which I really appreciate, mostly for booting time so I really want an SSD to instal my OS and games.

Intel Build - Using German Prices

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4430 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor (€154.90 @ Caseking)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87M Extreme4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (€107.90 @ Caseking)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport XT 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (€74.71 @ Hardwareversand)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (€69.49 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€41.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card (€135.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case (€46.27 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (€47.46 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (€12.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Monitor: BenQ GL2460HM 60Hz 24.0" Monitor (€139.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €829.52
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-16 12:00 CEST+0200)

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The AMD build. With an APU and the R7 265 with it (I am not sure about it tho). I do not want the FX AMD cos it seems the AM3+ socket is dead... MOBO with AM3+ socket are not very good.
I also put the 2400Mhz RAM considering it is an APU :) 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD A10-7850K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor (€151.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A75M Pro4+ Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard (€59.59 @ Hardwareversand)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory (€82.31 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (€69.49 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€41.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R7 265 2GB Video Card (€146.85 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case (€46.27 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (€47.46 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (€12.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Monitor: BenQ GL2460HM 60Hz 24.0" Monitor (€139.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €796.77
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-16 12:09 CEST+0200)


Thanks for your help
May 16, 2014 3:29:32 AM

For your intel build, I can see your picks already solid except for the procie/mobo combination. You pick a non K procie which means it can't be overclocked while your mobo is Z87 (capable of OC-ing K series procie). For optimizing the price, maybe you want to pick cheaper H87 board OR for future proofing, you could opt for a K series procie (i5-4670K, more expensive) so when it is becoming outdated you can just OC the procie to keep performance w/o the need to buy new one. your PSU is good because GTX 750Ti only need max 150watt (75 watt for select models from select brands).

For your AMD build, your RAM pick is good considering APU will do better in dual configuration. But I'm not really sure about r7-265 power consumption and can't be sure about using 450watt psu for that because from what I know, A10 cpu is a power hungry cpu. I use 500watt in my rig tho and running fine (i3-4130 + R9 270X), so I think it will be alright even tho I'm not so sure.

Now for performance comparison, i5 > A10 but AMD R7 265 > GTX 750Ti from what I know.
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May 16, 2014 5:07:32 AM

ferooxidan said:
For your intel build, I can see your picks already solid except for the procie/mobo combination. You pick a non K procie which means it can't be overclocked while your mobo is Z87 (capable of OC-ing K series procie). For optimizing the price, maybe you want to pick cheaper H87 board OR for future proofing, you could opt for a K series procie (i5-4670K, more expensive) so when it is becoming outdated you can just OC the procie to keep performance w/o the need to buy new one. your PSU is good because GTX 750Ti only need max 150watt (75 watt for select models from select brands).

For your AMD build, your RAM pick is good considering APU will do better in dual configuration. But I'm not really sure about r7-265 power consumption and can't be sure about using 450watt psu for that because from what I know, A10 cpu is a power hungry cpu. I use 500watt in my rig tho and running fine (i3-4130 + R9 270X), so I think it will be alright even tho I'm not so sure.

Now for performance comparison, i5 > A10 but AMD R7 265 > GTX 750Ti from what I know.


Thanks for the reply, according to PCPartPicker the 450W PSU is sufficient, I can still put a 500+ if needed though, the price increase is not that significant.

For the Intel build, if I go with the i5-4670K it would be more expensive, and I really don't feel the need (or even the ability) to OC. So I should pick the H87 Mobo which is cheaper then.

Now considering this build is for gaming purpose which build would you prefer/suggest ?

You have an i3+r9 270X build ? How does it perform and what price did you pay for that ?
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May 20, 2014 1:19:31 AM

Bump. More help as I will order soon plz ?
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