Need Help With First Build

FlagzTV · May 17, 2014

Hey Everyone, it's my first time building a system and I'm actually a little scared. Here's the link to my part list. (CLICK). I'm looking to build my first Gaming PC and want it to run ok. My questions are below.

1) Will I need more fans? If so which kind would you recommend? I would like LED's please! (I'm getting Hyper Evo 212 Evo for the CPU as you can see).

2) Should I go for the 280 or 280X? Not sure which is the best bang for buck? Is it really worth it?

Also just give me general suggestions thanks! This is my FIRST EVER build (Already got most of the small stuff!

tiny voices · May 17, 2014

You really want an 8320 not a 6300. The 6300 will bottleneck the 280x in some games.

FlagzTV · May 17, 2014

tiny voices :

So you're saying I should ump down to the 280 standard not the 280X? I don't wanna bump the price an additional $50 ish. I kept bumping and went from a sub $600 build to a sup $800 build. My budget is maxed, all I have room for now is smaller items.

tiny voices · May 17, 2014

I would not get a 280x with a 6300. It won't be worth it because you will not get the full power of the GPU because the CPU will be the limiting factor in alot of games. Generally a gtx760 or r9 270x is as high as you want to go with a 6300.

RazerZ · May 17, 2014

Go with this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($142.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard (Purchased For $0.00)
Memory: Kingston Fury Red Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (Purchased For $0.00)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: HIS Radeon R9 280X 3GB IceQ X² Video Card ($269.99 @ Newegg)
Case: BitFenix Shinobi Window ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For $0.00)
Power Supply: Rosewill Tachyon 650W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (Purchased For $0.00)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $574.93
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-17 14:01 EDT-0400)

For $30 more you can add in the 212 evo, but you could always add in the CPU cooler later.

FlagzTV · May 17, 2014

tiny voices :

Thanks, looking for more opinions because a quick search on this site gave me the conclusion that it will NOT bottleneck whatsoever. Some even say the 6300 can handle ALOT more than just the 280X. Thanks though, it is something to consider (upgrading CPU)

FlagzTV · May 17, 2014

RazerZ :

Go with this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($142.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard (Purchased For $0.00)
Memory: Kingston Fury Red Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (Purchased For $0.00)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: HIS Radeon R9 280X 3GB IceQ X² Video Card ($269.99 @ Newegg)
Case: BitFenix Shinobi Window ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For $0.00)
Power Supply: Rosewill Tachyon 650W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (Purchased For $0.00)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $574.93
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-17 14:01 EDT-0400)

For $30 more you can add in the 212 evo, but you could always add in the CPU cooler later.

Def. Something to consider. Thanks! I like you actually laid it out, but do you think I'll be fine without an AF CPU Cooler?

tiny voices · May 17, 2014

FlagzTV :

Sorry but that is not true. Even the 8320 and 8350 limit high end GPUs compared to an intel i5.

The 6300 is comparable to an i3 in alot of games. It will DEFINITELY bottleneck a 280x in plenty of games.

RazerZ · May 17, 2014

FlagzTV :

RazerZ :

Def. Something to consider. Thanks! I like you actually laid it out, but do you think I'll be fine without an AF CPU Cooler?

It will be fine if you do not overclock your CPU.

That being said, the stock coolers are known to be noisy so if you could have a cpu cooler in your budget I would go for it.

FlagzTV · May 17, 2014

tiny voices :

FlagzTV :

Sorry but that is not true. Even the 8320 and 8350 limit high end GPUs compared to an intel i5.

The 6300 is comparable to an i3 in alot of games. It will DEFINITELY bottleneck a 280x in plenty of games.

Ok, as I said I DO respect your opinion, but alot of people say differently. I'm keeping all my option open and I'm looking to upgrade my CPU after seeing the low cost if I cut the CPU Fan.

FlagzTV · May 17, 2014

RazerZ :

FlagzTV :

It will be fine if you do not overclock your CPU.

That being said, the stock coolers are known to be noisy so if you could have a cpu cooler in your budget I would go for it.

Ok is this better for only $10 more w/ rebate? http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FLMKNE0/?tag=pcpapi-20

RazerZ · May 17, 2014

FlagzTV :

RazerZ :

Ok is this better for only $10 more w/ rebate? http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FLMKNE0/?tag=pcpapi-20

IMO the price doesn't justify the card. I'd rather go with the HIS 280x and get a 212 EVO. Both cards will offer very similar performance.

tiny voices · May 17, 2014

FlagzTV :

In reality it will be different in each game. In some games, there will be no bottleneck, in others, there will be a non-noticeable bottleneck. In some games that do not like AMD, or are only coded for 2 cores, you might see a bottleneck. I'm not saying your performance will be ruined in every game, but technically there will be a bottleneck in some games.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/call-of-duty-ghosts-pc-performance,3683-10.html here is an example. All the CPUs on that chart are paired with the same GPU. As you can see, the 6300 performs significantly worse than even a 2 generation old i5.

FlagzTV · May 17, 2014

Ok so I decided to get the 8320 w/ R9 290X, thanks for help with that subject. Now I wanna know a few more things, do you think there will be better sales on Memorial Day or Fathers Day? Looking for a good deal as well you know. Also, what Fans/ Lighting will really make this case shine. I have the Shinobi Windowed from BitFenix and I wanna try to light it up nicely (The grills running parallel on the front and the window). As I said I've never done this so lighting is new to me. Thanks

tiny voices · May 18, 2014

Do not expect any real different sales from any other day. Just buy the stuff when you have the money. Don't wait for sales.

I do not like LEDs or lights so I don't know much about that. Most people just seem to use LED fans. If you want, you can change the fans out with LED ones.

FlagzTV · May 18, 2014

Do you think my full build will be fine with just the two fans the case came with (Front & Back)? Here's all the parts I ordered a few hours ago off Newegg. Hope it was worth it thanks! http://pcpartpicker.com/user/FlagzTV/saved/4EQb

RazerZ · May 18, 2014

Very nice build. The parts were all excellent for the price. The two fans should be sufficient for the time being, so what I would do is monitor temps when gaming and see if they are within range of the 280x/8350( they should be). When you add LEDS to the build is when you should add extra fans just to improve the overall airflow of the build.

FlagzTV · May 18, 2014

RazerZ :

Ok, I'll add the fans at a later time as suggested. Every purchase was just made final. Here's the absolute final build for now. No if ands or buts, this is what I ordered. Thanks for all your help!

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3MgGs

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