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coco savege

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Below are my specs. This was my first and only build 6 years ago. I did it with the help of some of the fine folks on this site. It was a bit harder than it should have been thanks to a wonderful product called Microsoft Vista but I got through it. I have updated the hd, cpu and the gpu since then. I have used it mainly for mmos like age of conan, swtor, lotro. I am thinking about updating the cpu and gpu again. I have seen that many gamers suggest the Intel Core i5-3570K , GTX 760 combo as their reasonably priced go-to setup.Updating to these would cost me about $500. My question is this: Is the rest of my set-up too old for the new cpu and gpu? Would I be better off giving this computer to my kid and building new for around lets say $1200? I would prefer the $500 route for now. Right now I am playing Elder Scrolls Online and I'm getting about 25-35 fps on high. In crowded areas though, it drops into the teens. I would love to run the game on ultra at about 60fps. Can I do it with the setup I have with the new cpu and gpu? I have looked at overclocking but I know my limits-that is probably not a good option for me. Thanks in advance.




Time of this report: 5/18/2014, 10:04:44
Machine name: xxxxxx
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.140303-2144)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: NVIDIA
System Model: 122-CK-NF68
BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8500 @ 3.16GHz (2 CPUs), ~3.2GHz
Memory: 4096MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 4094MB RAM
Page File: 2473MB used, 5713MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce GTX 260
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_05E2&SUBSYS_12623842&REV_A1
Display Memory: 2668 MB
Dedicated Memory: 877 MB
Shared Memory: 1791 MB
Current Mode: 1440 x 900 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
Monitor Model: AL1916W
Monitor Id: ACRAD80
Native Mode: 1440 x 900(p) (59.887Hz)
Output Type: DVI
Driver Name: nvd3dumx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvd3dum,nvwgf2um,nvwgf2um
Driver File Version: 9.18.0013.1106 (English)
Driver Version: 9.18.13.1106
DDI Version: 10
Driver Model: WDDM 1.1
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 2/26/2013 00:32:38, 18055184 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-46A2-11CF-A05F-6F321CC2C435}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x05E2
SubSys ID: 0x12623842
Revision ID: 0x00A1
Driver Strong Name: oem2.inf:NVIDIA_SetA_Devices.NTamd64.6.1:Section002:9.18.13.1106:pci\ven_10de&dev_05e2
Rank Of Driver: 00E02001
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C ModeV
 
Solution
You can't really get an unlocked Core i5 (3570K or newer 4670K) as well as a new high-end graphics card on $500, because the memory and motherboard also have to be replaced for the new CPU. At least it would require cutting corners on the motherboard and memory.

I would say either replace the CPU/motherboard/RAM or the graphics card. Then save up some money to replace the other part later. Since Intel is going to release a new unlocked Core i5 soon (Core i5-4690K or something like that), I would recommend just upgrading the graphics card now.

Alternatively, you can get a cheaper CPU. Like AMDs FX-6300, or a Core i3 from Intel.
cpu means new motherboard and ram also............ but you should. the 775 socket, especially a dual core, just can't cut it in more demanding things. swapping in a 775quad makes no sense.

graphics, the 260 wasn't great when it was born............. leap ahead how many years now...???? you're in for NEW...................
 
You can't really get an unlocked Core i5 (3570K or newer 4670K) as well as a new high-end graphics card on $500, because the memory and motherboard also have to be replaced for the new CPU. At least it would require cutting corners on the motherboard and memory.

I would say either replace the CPU/motherboard/RAM or the graphics card. Then save up some money to replace the other part later. Since Intel is going to release a new unlocked Core i5 soon (Core i5-4690K or something like that), I would recommend just upgrading the graphics card now.

Alternatively, you can get a cheaper CPU. Like AMDs FX-6300, or a Core i3 from Intel.
 
Solution

Overclocking-enabled. Intel locks most of their CPUs so they cannot be overclocked; you have to pay extra for an unlocked CPU, and then also pay extra for a motherboard with a chipset that allows overclocking.

If you drop overclocking, it would be possible to squeeze a good total upgrade in at $500. Always assuming your power supply is up to the task. Something like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($184.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock B85 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: A-Data XPG V1.0 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 270X 2GB PCS+ Video Card ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $488.96
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-18 11:54 EDT-0400)