gtx 780 ti vs Sapphire Vapor-X R9 290X
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R9 290X is still just rolling out so it's hard to find any info about it.
Here is review to R9 290 Vapor-X and there is also GTX 780 Ti and R9 290x Tri-x OC tested with it.
R9 290X should be stronger than R9 290x Tri-X oc +- by margin as was tri-x 290x stronger than 290 version.
As you see R9 290 is already getting close or even match at some points 780ti and r9 290x tri-x oc so vapor-x should be +- as strong as 780ti and at some points stronger.
To see comparison between tri-x 290x and 290 to have idea about what is difference in power and what you can expect to be difference with vapor-x you can check this review.
Here is review to R9 290 Vapor-X and there is also GTX 780 Ti and R9 290x Tri-x OC tested with it.
R9 290X should be stronger than R9 290x Tri-X oc +- by margin as was tri-x 290x stronger than 290 version.
As you see R9 290 is already getting close or even match at some points 780ti and r9 290x tri-x oc so vapor-x should be +- as strong as 780ti and at some points stronger.
To see comparison between tri-x 290x and 290 to have idea about what is difference in power and what you can expect to be difference with vapor-x you can check this review.
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Like he said go with the 780 ti, it is faster runs cooler, and uses less power. Here is a link with some in game benchmarks.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1072?vs=1056
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1072?vs=1056
On what you base that?? Sapphire 290x tri-x OC match 780Ti +- and run as cool and quiet. Vapor-X should be even faster and cooler so I would say it will get over 780ti reference and maybe even 780ti with non reference coolers. Ofc 780ti SC or classified will be still stronger, but that is extra money to get there.
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The gtx 780ti is faster by all means even if it has a lower memory here see the benchmarks http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-R9-290X-vs-GeForce-GTX-780-Ti
that should convince you
that should convince you
Why you all compare reference versions? He asked about non reference Vapor-X. Which have much better cooling solution and lower noise.
Review I posted deals with vapor-x r9 290 and 780ti Windforce so both non reference coolers. It should give you much better idea how it perform than those 2 reference comparisons.
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To ruecklm14 it may help if you post also exact model of 780ti you consider to have better idea. Or you want to compare R9 290x Vapor-X (dont know if you want OC or non OC version) with 780ti reference?
If you want comparison with reference I would say based on those reviews I posted r9 290x will be +- as 780ti at some points little stronger and at some little weaker.
If you mean 780ti non-reference it will depend on model but still can expect +- same ingame performance.
One big - vapor-x should have is higher power consumption over 780ti. It even have 2x 8 pin and not classic 8 + 6 pin.
Sonu Dutta
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For a card like the 780ti(reference) even if i compare it with the highest overclocked r9 290 non reference card the 780ti would still emerge as the winner. Plus the 780ti can run at high temps just like the 290.
that was the point I was trying to make
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ChrisR83
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If the reference cards are better than chances are the non reference card are still going to be better, they are both going to be factory over clocked with aftermarket coolers, so the performance of the over clocked 290X isn’t going to magically beat the over clocked 780ti. And when you are trying to find benchmarks it is hard to find a good comparison of the exact two cards you are looking to buy. So in short if one reference card is better than the other, then the non reference is still going to be better.
In general I would agree. Problem is exactly with r9 290x which had such poor temperatures and throttling because of that lot of GPU power can't show with reference cooler. Ofc 780ti sc will beat r9 290x np. With 780ti and 290x non reference it's much closer. If price is not matter I would go with 780ti with ACX cooler either SC/classified. But if price matter I would strongly consider r9 290x tri-x oc or vapor-x oc. Actually best price/power would be probably r9 290 Vapor-X OC of all those so actually even one level lower than 290x.
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So current power order would be from strongest to weakest
780 ti classified
780 ti sc
780 ti (non-oc) / r9 290x vapor-x (non reference)
r9 290 vapor-x
r9 290x (reference)
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Budget is always a question but when a person wants to do serious gaming and he is making it clear that the 780ti is a choice he can make then I think the budget part is "overruled" and a card like the 780ti it deserves every bit of the money
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i can not recommend amd products at this time, nvidia have the technological edge with the 700 series. the coolers are the same on 290x and 780ti after market card in the sense that the have about the same cooling potential like when gigabyte says: WINDFORCE 3X 2-SLOT 450W Cooling System, and when the 780ti uses less watts it runs cooler and quieter. windforce cooler are the same for amd as nvidia, even sometimes its worse on amd side because of the gpu core is at an angle and not getting all the heat pipes to touch the core.
Me too
I posted in edit of previous post my own order in which I would get cards based on budget.
If I would have budget I would sure go for 780ti sc. If it would be budget just for reference 780ti or r9 290x vapor-x it would be much tougher choice.
To ruecklm14:
If you really do not care about price go for SC or classified 780ti that is currently best you can get in terms of single GPU (no sli or dual gpu).
If price matter it depends on budge you got.
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well normally a 780ti is definitely stronger than the 290x, but with mantle bf4, and when titanfall gets its mantle patch, the 290x is currently faster with mantle.
that said, 290x's dont seem to offer very much headroom for overclocking with air coolers. the 780ti classified will overclock like crazy, above 1.3ghz on stock air. if you waterblock the classy, the sky is the limit, likely 1.45ghz stable and cool, 1.5ghz+ if you like pushing it. with this type of overclocking headroom, the overclock will make up for most of if not all the performance increase that mantle offers the amd route.
the 780ti@1.3ghz is roughly equal to sli 770s in synthetic gaming benchmarks that offer >92% sli performance scaling. gaming obviously is different and many games only offer 70% performance scaling.
that said, 290x's dont seem to offer very much headroom for overclocking with air coolers. the 780ti classified will overclock like crazy, above 1.3ghz on stock air. if you waterblock the classy, the sky is the limit, likely 1.45ghz stable and cool, 1.5ghz+ if you like pushing it. with this type of overclocking headroom, the overclock will make up for most of if not all the performance increase that mantle offers the amd route.
the 780ti@1.3ghz is roughly equal to sli 770s in synthetic gaming benchmarks that offer >92% sli performance scaling. gaming obviously is different and many games only offer 70% performance scaling.
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The link you posted compares the 780 ti to an early reference R9 290X with the low 40% fan speed. This does not answer the OP's question, gtx 780 ti vs Sapphire Vapor-X R9 290X. Even if you had linked the reference R9 290X in "Uber" mode [slight fan speed increase to dissipate a little more heat], the reference R9 290X would have traded blows or at times were about the same, with the reference R9 290X. http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1072?vs=1056
The Sapphire Vapor-X R9 290 and the Vapor-X R9 290X use superior components and extra capabilities compared to the reference R9 290 or R9 290X. Sapphire Vapor-X R9 290 info: http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/sapphire_radeon_r9_290_vapor_x_launches.html NOTICE: That was Vapor-X R9 290 info, not R9 290X.
There is not much info on the Vapor-X R9 290X, and because it is now late I will try to finish this post quickly. Here is another link for the Vapor-X R9 290, they did not use a further overclock beyond what came in the box for charting testing results. Near the end they said,
http://www.kitguru.net/components/g...apor-x-oc-and-r9-290-vapor-x-oc-review/all/1/
I could add more, however, it is very late here and I am very tired. I hope you find what you need and good gaming!
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