i7-3770k vs newer gen i7s

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Currently I have an i5-2500k and while it is perfectly suitable for 90% of my needs, I've recently got into video editing/encoding and have been considering upgrading to an i7 to take advantage of multithreaded video editing software (Adobe Premiere Pro). Seeing as I currently use an i5-2500k I have the appropriate 1155 motherboard and an i7-3770k would be a simple swap with my existing CPU. My question is, do the newer gen i7s (4770k/soon to be 4790k) offer big enough performance gains to warrant switching platforms to a 1150 socket motherboard?

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well, the difference between 2nd gen and 3rd/4th is big, but the difference between 3rd and 4th is small. i guess it depends on if you want to upgrade in the future aswell. you can get a z97 board and an i7 4770k for $450, and then you can keep the mobo for 5th gen intel which will be much faster than 4th gen, but if you dont have that kind of money, an i7 3770k is a great chip still :)
 
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Would the xeon not hurt me in the gaming department? I always thought Xeon's were for servers that ran 24/7.

 
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I was planning to switch to the 2011 platform eventually. The 4790k is extremely tempted with its high stock clock speeds but being a recent university graduate who is currently jobless, I cant justify spending the kind of cash required to upgrade to a new platform. I was hoping that I could sell my 2500k for ~180$ CAD which would take a large chunk out of the cost to jump to a 3770k.
 
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Definitely wait for the devils canyon series of i5 and i7 chips to release, they should be much more overclocking friendly than the current haswell chips, which due to the sequential downgrade in thermal interface performance, an overclocked haswell vs overclocked sandybridge chip are fairly close in performance, unless you luck out on one of the 20% of the haswell chips that are decent overclockers.

I'm not much into video editing, but I image the processor workload (not accelerated by GPUs) is fairly similar to 3d rendering programs in terms of thread efficiency. I have a 3770k as a main workstation and then an 3570k for a backup dedicated render box that can chug away on long animations etc. With both processors lightly overclocked to 4.1ghz across all cores, I see a 25% performance bump from the 3570k to the 3770k.

If you plan on overclocking, I'd say pick up a used 2700k if you absolutely need that decrease in encode time and then possibly swap platforms to the devils canyon haswell chips or wait for broadwell and keep your old platform for a distributed workload machine.
 
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well, its kinda like this: servers run xeons, but xeons dont just run servers. the xeon E3 1230 v3 is almost identical to a i7 4770, but without the integrated graphics. i personally would not go to 2011, and for you i think the best deal is to keep your mobo and get a new cpu, like the xeon E3 1230 v2 or i7 3770k if you want to overclock.
 
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Not at all, an E3 1230 v2 is nothing more, really, than an i7 3770 without integrated graphics and the ability to run with server hardware or normal desktop hardware.
 
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Well, TIL :p

I think in the end the 3770k is the better option as I do like to have the flexibility to overclock. I'd also be able to take advantage of intels quick sync video features which I've heard good things about.
 
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In addition to agreeing with the general sentiment here about whether to upgrade, I'll also point out that you may want to switch from the "Z" to the "X" platform if you are getting really into video editing. Going with X79, especially waiting until the X99 comes out, will give you a serious improvement over any of the chips you're considering. They have more cores and more cache, plus a lot of other benefits for more CPU-intensive workloads. I'd say stick it out with your current CPU, and if you really find that you need more horsepower in the CPU department, save up for X99 (which I know is expensive). That isn't to say that the "Z" platform won't handle video. It totally will. Just not nearly as well. Depending on how seriously you'll be editing videos, it may be worth the upgrade. That's all. Waiting around for 4-core CPUs will get really mind-numbering after a while. Maybe once you land your first post-grad job and save for a bit :-D

Good luck!
 
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I was actually planning on going to X99 one haswell-e comes out. My concerns are how expensive the platform will be with DDR4 being debuted with it. As I mentioned, I'm pretty strapped for cash currently while I wait to start a masters and even then I dont think I could justify dropping down $1000+ on a new platform.
 
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Ha, yeah. I think I went back and added to my original post while you were typing this to say that maybe you can afford it after your first post-graduation job lets you save up for a while. Until then, I think you'll be sitting pretty with a 3770k. It's a pretty solid CPU that will give you time to save up.
 
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Post-grad jobs wont be happening for atleast another 4-8ish years. After my masters I'm planning on completing a PhD and possibly an MD :p
 
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Oh crap, in that case, I'd say to just do one of two things. Either write up a grant for the money, or else just take out a few thousand extra on student loans. You may never pay them off, and that's just another drop in the bucket. But if you do get a job that will let you pay them off, then you've won the bet :D
 
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Maybe once I pay off a mountain of debt :p

I just finished my BSc in Biomedical Sciences, waiting to hear on my masters for the same things and will most likely try and fast track the masters into a PhD. I do a lot of cancer research so that's the focus of my masters (ovarian cancer in particular) and I hope to open a clinical research lab and with an MD it would allow me to both treat and perform realtime research in the same clinic.
 
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yeah most likely what I'll do. At the end of the day, I'm just doing this to save some time in rendering out some videos. I've just started getting into youtube and waiting 2hrs for a 45min video to render/encode is killing me :p
 
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Either get a 3770k or if you want to go with the z97 platform get a 4790k on it's release, Personally I'd get the 4790k and z97, You'll be able to sell the parts you already have for a decent chunk of the money you spend on the new bit's and you'll have a better overclocking solution with a broadwell upgrade as a future option.

 
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