Asus VG248QE or is there a better option for the price?

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dbruce1990

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Hi I am looking for a new monitor, was looking into this guy here:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236313

wondering if anyone maybe knew of a nicer monitor than these even. I don't think I will even be able to utilize 144hz even with a gpu upgrade in the near future. In such case, would it be better to spend less money on the frequency and maybe get a better resolution than 1080p if i can? or does this exist?

main use will be gaming, sc2, diablo III, wow, mostly games like these. Not huge into fps. I also spend a lot of time reading on a computer, via programming inside of visual studio or some ide. As well as inside ableton and other DAWS.

This is roughly my price range, highest I can go is $310. I wouldn't mind going up to a 27" by any means, but I been reading you lose some image quality and 24" is kind of the sweet spot for 1080p...

edit: I should add that I'm not really worried about the 3D portion. I don't really plan on getting the glasses or anything. Don't care about webcam or built in speakers or anything like that. Internal speakers will never be used unless they can magically beat my monitor speakers...which is doubtful. I just want the most badass picture $300 can buy me. Portrait mode is a bonus, but not a requirement at all...something I could see myself maybe using when reading an online book? Not a deal breaker though...

edit 2: was just thinking, is a DisplayPort worthwhile since from what I understood, hdmi can't pump out 60 at 1080p until hdmi 2.0 and I'm pretty sure my gtx 560 ti is old enough that it's probably 1.4a so if I understand correctly it caps it's refresh around 24hz...? Something to consider? Mostly want this for best gaming experience I can get...I do sit fairly close so nothing larger than 27"
 
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Oh thank you for the clarification on HDMI.

Will this monitor (edit: lol ment monitor, not video card >< my bad...) do the "Black eQ" type stuff that I keep reading about with a games fog of war, where you can kind of see into shadows? But because it's IPS it will be an even better image?

From what I understand to actually utilize the 144hz you need some pretty beefy graphics card? You gotta be OVER 60 fps from what I understand? If I can go with the cheaper monitor, and sell my current card for a bit of cash I was thinking of throwing in the radeon r9 270x with 4GB gddr5(I currently have a gtx 560 ti 2gb gddr5)which from looking at benchmarks is probably about another 75% of the video card, which might put me over 60 fps consistantly, but not enough to utilize the 144hz I wouldn't think?
 
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This is incorrect. HDMI 1.4a does 1080p60hz and can use frame packing to do HD3D at 60hz, but it cannot do 2D at 120hz, even though it can do 3D at 60hz. Frame packing is the only reason it can do 60hz and it cannot even go beyond 720p when doing it.

HDMI 2.0 is the one that will handle 120hz and at 1080p.
 
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Ah, how do I know if I'm going to be getting 2.0 HDMI? I was reading most won't come out with it until later this year I believe?

Also, does this mean that DisplayPort is still better than HDMI or are they pretty much equivalent now?

Again I won't be using the audio, just need video, and I was told vga does not support true 1080p.

edit again: was looking at these from BenQ I notice they have this price range and then I believe one closer to 300 but same models?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007HSKSMI/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Any thoughts, comparing to the original Asus VG248QE? Honestly any of these are a step up from my last monitor, so I think i'll be happy regardless. If I go with something like the BenQ RL2455HM with that price range I would be able to also upgrade my current video card to something like the r9 270x price range...
 
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You can do 1200p60 down a single DVI cable (max pixel clock 165MHz). HDMI 1.3 more than doubled that max clock to 340MHz, and 1.4/1.4a kept it. 2.0 goes to 600MHz.

HDMI 1.4a can thus easily handle the bandwidth, though I can't guarantee that the monitor is programmed to support it easily (I know some QHD screens work fine over HDMI, but need a custom resolution set up, as they don't advertise the full res over HDMI).

Displayport is generally preferable to all others.
 
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Whether it has the bandwidth or not, HDMI 1.4a still does not support 120hz in 2D. I have a 120hz monitor with HDMI 1.4a ports. It does not allow 120hz on HDMI. The closest thing is the ability to run HD3D at 60hz using 720p.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI
HDMI 1.4a was released on March 4, 2010 and adds two additional mandatory 3D formats for broadcast content, which was deferred with HDMI 1.4 in order to see the direction of the 3D broadcast market.[151][152] HDMI 1.4a has defined mandatory 3D formats for broadcast, game, and movie content.[151] HDMI 1.4a requires that 3D displays support the frame packing 3D format at either 720p50 and 1080p24 or 720p60 and 1080p24, side-by-side horizontal at either 1080i50 or 1080i60, and top-and-bottom at either 720p50 and 1080p24 or 720p60 and 1080p24.[152]

HDMI 1.4b was released on October 11, 2011.[153] One of the new features is that it adds support to 3D 1080p video at 120 Hz – allowing frame packing 3D format at 1080p60 per Eye (120 Hz total).[154] All future versions of the HDMI specification will be made by the HDMI Forum that was created on October 25, 2011.[43][155]
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Neither supports 120hz in 2D, though HDMI 1.4b does add support for 3D at 60hz and 1080p, but they get there by packing both the left and right frames together. The problem with HDMI 1.4a and 1.4b is they do not support higher than 60hz. It is not the bandwidth, it is the frequency that is the problem.
 
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I have never tried, but I wouldn't be surprised if you can at low resolutions, as CRT's used to allow 120hz over DVI or VGA (not sure which or if both). I'm guessing HDMI's short comings are in large part due to it being primarily designed around TV use, where as DVI and Displayport are designed for PC use.
 
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