i7 or amd fx

radekmm · May 20, 2014

Hello
First i want to clear out that i have enough money to get those CPUs

I want to know which CPU will be better in games and which will last longer in terms of multicore performance
The AMD FX 8350 or
The Intel core i7 3770

My questions are
1.) which is better for gaming and basic rendering ?
2.) which of these two CPUs will get better FPS in games, that uses 4+ cores
3.) will hyperthreading help in gamig if the game uses more than 4 threads (for example watch dogs or bf4 and 3)

8bitpwnage · May 20, 2014

radekmm :

Go for the 3770 buddy.The 8350 has a higher stock clock speed and more cores BUT IT CAN'T MATCH the STOCK PROCESSOR SPEED of the 3770.Intel gets the most fps.Battlefield 4 is optimized for AMD but in other games,Intel will run smoother.

Rationale · May 20, 2014

The 3770 will get better performance in literally everything, and will last longer.
It still outperforms the FX-8350 even in games that use 8 cores.

Eduello · May 20, 2014

1. i7
2. i7
3. Yes.

There's a reason the i7 costs more.

Novuake · May 20, 2014

"watch dogs or bf4 and 3", none of them have been proven to run over more than 4 threads effectively.

But yes, I7 wins every time. But you should not be comparing two completely differently priced CPUs.

pologoalie8908 · May 20, 2014

8bitpwnage :

radekmm :

Go for the 3770 buddy.The 8350 has a higher stock clock speed and more cores BUT IT CAN'T MATCH the STOCK PROCESSOR SPEED of the 3770.Intel gets the most fps.Battlefield 4 is optimized for AMD but in other games,Intel will run smoother.

Little confused how you say BF4 is optimized for AMD CPUs BF4 is optimized for AMD GPUs via MANTLE

babernet_1 · May 20, 2014

Why the 3770K? Use the latest processors. The best value in top gaming is the 4670K. The 4770K is best for the few games that are starting to use hyperthreading. In a couple weeks the 4690K is coming out that will overclock to 5GHz. If you can, wait for that one.

DonQuixoteMC · May 20, 2014

babernet_1 :

I agree you shouldn't be buying into a dead socket (LGA 1155) when there are more current, still supported sockets which offer better performance (LGA 1150). The 4770K is the best option when comparing Intel i7s and AMD FX.

This is a bit of a skewed comparison as the 8350/20 isn't even on the same level as the i7. The i7 will win in every category.

Novuake · May 20, 2014

DonQuixoteMC :

babernet_1 :

I agree you shouldn't be buying into a dead socket (LGA 1155) when there are more current, still supported sockets which offer better performance (LGA 1150). The 4770K is the best option when comparing Intel i7s and AMD FX.

This is a bit of a skewed comparison as the 8350/20 isn't even on the same level as the i7. The i7 will win in every category.

1150 is just as dead now.

Eduello · May 20, 2014

Novuake :

DonQuixoteMC :

1150 is just as dead now.

How so? Just get a Z97 board and you're ready for Broadwell when it comes out.

8bitpwnage · May 20, 2014

pologoalie8908 :

8bitpwnage :

Little confused how you say BF4 is optimized for AMD CPUs BF4 is optimized for AMD GPUs via MANTLE

Mantle is AMD GPU technology.What I meant was BF4 is optimized for AMD cards

DonQuixoteMC · May 20, 2014

Novuake :

*shrug*

There's still Devil's Canyon

It's still more than LGA 1155, and Z87 Motherboards are often nicer than their Z77 counterparts. Not to mention the slight performance boost.

Additionally, as previously mentioned, getting Z97 would give you optimal upgradability with 1150.

radekmm · May 20, 2014

Do you think it is worth the 100+ € to buy the i7 over the FX 8350 ?
Because if i geht the Intel system i can only buy cpu+mainboard+RAM and keep my current card ( HD 7750), or i get the FX CPU + mainboard + RAM and geht a r9 280x vapor-x second Hand for 210 €.

Zircoben · May 20, 2014

radekmm :

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117286

That is the equivalent of an Ivy Bridge i7, just clocked slightly lower and at a price very close to the FX-8350.

This is the best CPU for your money on the LGA 1155 socket. Just make sure the motherboard you buy has it on the CPU list, sometimes the Xeons aren't compatible.

This will blow away the FX-8350 in every task. It has 8 threads just like the FX-8350.

Hope that helps!

atf_mart · May 20, 2014

are you on a strict budget? if you are go for amd, its worth the money and if you think abou it, a 2nd gen amd fx cpu is still kicking ass ( by this i mean it still stands up a fight) vs intels 4th gen. now if you dont have a budget, go with the i7 since it is obviosly better but at a higher price.

I had an amd fx 6300 oc to 4.6ghz and I sold it and got an i5 4670k. and the only place where I got better perofrmance is in SINGLE THREADED. games.

no fanboysm.

good luck.

radekmm · May 20, 2014

Well, prices are pretty low here in austria. The AMD FX 8350 costs about 130 €, the i7 3770 costs 250 € and the xeon e3-1230 costs 200 €. Which one oft these do you suggest ?
Oh and a good quality mobo for lga 1155 costs only 30 €

radekmm · May 20, 2014

I am not really on a strict budget but it should be around 400-500€, because i won in an english contest Herr in austria and my Patents want to give me 400+ €

Zircoben · May 20, 2014

radekmm :

Definitely the Xeon E3-1230V2.

What motherboard is this and what website are you using? I don't think a 30 € motherboard will be any good.

I would HIGHLY recommend getting a new H97/Z97 Haswell motherboard, it will be well worth your 50 € or whatever to be on a newer and not dead socket.

How does this look?

PCPartPicker part list: http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/3NP9p
Price breakdown by merchant: http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/3NP9p/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/3NP9p/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($295.00 @ CPL Online)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($129.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Storage: Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($149.00 @ CPL Online)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Superclocked ACX Video Card ($429.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Case: Silverstone PS08B (Black) MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($45.00 @ CPL Online)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.02 @ Mwave Australia)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($115.00 @ CPL Online)
Total: $1281.02
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-21 07:49 EST+1000)

Hope that helps!
-Zircoben

babernet_1 · May 20, 2014

Why not go with the I5 4670K. Still faster than the 8350 but the same price, more or less.

Zircoben · May 20, 2014

babernet_1 :

The Xeon costs only a bit more (about $20) and gives you double the threads and a lot more combined power than the i5-4670K. It is essentially an underclocked i7-4770 for a whole $50 less.

Yeah.
-Zircoben

radekmm · May 20, 2014

This is a little more expensive than what i have mentioned
http://www.e-tec.at/mobile/details.php?art=156531

Zircoben · May 20, 2014

radekmm :

Buy this: http://www.e-tec.at/mobile/details.php?art=172120

Then you will be future proofed and be able to get the latest CPUs for at least another year.

It supports the Xeon 1230v3 I have mentioned and it is well worth your money.

radekmm · May 20, 2014

Do you think an h61 chipset will be sufficient ?
Because the guy i want to buy from the GPU has also got a h61 mobo and he is willing me to give me the mobo for 20 €
Hey just a quick question is my english good or bad. I just want to have a feedback about my english language because i'm 14 and yeah

Zircoben · May 20, 2014

radekmm :

That is a good deal. Have him update the BIOS to the latest version so it will be compatible with Ivy Bridge.

What model is it? I can see if the processors will be compatible.

radekmm · May 20, 2014

The mobo is an asrock h61 pro btc

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