280 (Non-X) vs GTX 760 vs 270X?

TwiztidFreek · May 21, 2014

Hello Guys!

During my adventure on finishing my build, I need to choose a GPU.
Here is my situation. I am using the Corsair 350D. I have no plans on overclocking my GPU, just my CPU as OCing the GPU looks very intimidating.

Games I will play (900P and 1080P @ Ultra 2xMSAA):
BF4
DayZ
H1Z1
CS:GO
CoD
Metro Last Light
Rust

Needs/Wants:
Easy recording w/o much performance loss.
60FPS constant w/ as few dips as possible.
Easy Optimization
I would like PhysX for games that support it.
Occasional Rendering
I would really like stable 60FPS on BF4.
No more than $150.

I was planning on getting one of these:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-r9280gaming3g - Would like this for the performance and free three games. Mantle for BF4 and True Audio.
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-n760tf2gd5oc - $244 even without MIR. Good performance.
http://pcpartpicker.com/mr/newegg/msi-video-card-r9270xgaming2g - Two free games. OK performance. I would rather avoid the 270X due to performance vs other cards.

I would like some benchmarks if possible or a comparison, but they are not necessary.

Thanks Guys!

-TwiztidFreek

unknownofprob · May 21, 2014

Short and Simply it goes;

1) R9 280

2) GTX 760

3) R9 270X

Get the R9 280!, Best choice to get. It is the fastest in gaming performance.

TwiztidFreek · May 21, 2014

I was thinking along the same lines, but not only does it not have ShadowPlay, it doesn't have PhysX. Although I can use FRAPS to record, it would slow my game to a crawl. Obviously, that was an exaggeration, but you get the point. Although PhysX was a "failed" feature and is hardly ever used, games like Metro Last Light look amazing with it on. So does the 280's performance out play those of the 760 (ShadowPlay, GeForce Experience, PhysX, and Optimization?

While I am not disagreeing with you, I just wanted to make sure before I jumped into buying a card and being stuck with it. Thanks Guys!

-TwiztidFreek

photonboy · May 21, 2014

*Look carefully at this graph: http://lanoc.org/review/video-cards/6834-sapphire-dual-x-r9-280-oc?showall=&start=6

So the above ORDER is correct, you need to look at the PRICE vs PERFORMANCE to determine the value. Some comments:

1) The R9-270X is slower, but also cheaper. To be FAIR I compared similar quality products with two Gigabyte cards. The R9-280 is about $60 more.

Gigabyte R9-270X: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvr927xoc2gd

2) The GTX760 and R9-280 are pretty close with the R9-280 winning on average.

However, there are other factors with the NVidia card:
- G-Sync (awesome, but needs new monitor but in a year or two that may be a factor)
- PHYSX (in a few games it made a big difference such as Batman Arkam Asylum)
- Shadowplay (the big one for many people. Can RECORD or stream gameplay with minimal frame rate drop. Can record DESKTOP now. Works great.)

Other:
1) The R9-280's are also fairly new so I have limited customer feedback. I want to choose ASUS but it's slightly expensive. Otherwise I'd get MSI or Gigabyte.

2) OVERCLOCKING may or may not let the GTX760 close the gap. I've seen a lot of evidence that the NVidia cards have often achieved slightly higher overclocks with a good cooler but can't confirm that.

3) NVIDIA has released some DX11 tweaks that have improved performance in many games, so that will affect the benchmark scores above.
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-337-50-beta-performance-boosting-driver-official-delivers-optimizations-directx-11-titles/

Probably in response to Mantle, NVidia's gone back to see what enhancements can be made. I think that's awesome.

unknownofprob · May 21, 2014

R9 280 is essentially a 7950, lots of feedback on that.

TwiztidFreek · May 21, 2014

In those charts the 280 either won by 5FPS or lost by 5FPS. I'd say that the 760's performance and features such as Shadowplay (Which is big for me) and in BF3 it averages 80FPS. Also, I can barely tell the difference between 1080P and 900P, so if getting a stable 60FPS means I have to do with 900P, that is a very viable option for me. On 900P on BF4, I should get constant 60FPS with few drops.

coolcole01 · May 21, 2014

unknownofprob :

This guy speaks the truth

TwiztidFreek · May 21, 2014

coolcole01 :

I know it has better performance. But it lacks features. It is only a few FPS away from the 760 and if I choose to use FRAPS then I am in bad luck. 760 W/ ShadowPlay > 280 W/ FRAPS

unknownofprob · May 21, 2014

GTX 760 takes blows with R9 280, but as a whole the R9 280 is best, and can be overclocked to R9 280X performance.

coolcole01 · May 21, 2014

i have a gtx 780 and stiull have not tried shadowplay im such a slacker

TwiztidFreek · May 21, 2014

While that may be true, the GTX 760 can also be OCed easier. I also stated that I don't want to OC. But my final thoughts to you guys, and this is what I am going to base my purchase off of, is which is better: 280's RAW performance or 760's performance + ShadowPlay + GeForce Experience + PhysX?

photonboy · May 21, 2014

G-SYNC:
The first monitors will have a premium of $100 to $150 I understand, but that will quickly drop. In two years I expect a $30 to $50 premium.

So, I suggest you watch the following video and read the preview article so you can make an informed decision. It can be a little confusing but the bottom line is G-Sync makes gaming much smoother, with less lag and screen tearing but all at the same time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PJjhBUSuHk

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/64586-week-nvidias-g-sync-monitor.html

unknownofprob · May 21, 2014

I am assuming you are a Nvidia fanboy?

AMD have their advantages, so do nvidia, RAW performance the R9 280 is better, drivers Nvidia is better. As a whole, AMD's card is faster and performance is decreased in games with the worse drivers, but in all, it puts the card still ahead as a whole.

TwiztidFreek · May 21, 2014

I have never purchased an Nvidia card or an AMD card as this is my first build. I am leaning towards the 760 because of the features. For someone who prefers features over 5 extra FPS, I think that the 760 is right for me. But if the performance is as great as you say using just the 280, then I will most definetly get that. So my ultimate question is, is the 280's power better than the 760's power and features? Remember, I will be recording, and if the 280 gets 60FPS whilst recording, then there is no comparison, the 280 blows the 760 out of the water.

unknownofprob · May 21, 2014

the R9 280 is a 7950 essentially, so check that against the GTX 670, that is the most comparable comparison. 670 as that is essentially a 760.

coolcole01 · May 21, 2014

i actually have two xfx hd 7950's man i loved those cards they just screamed along

TwiztidFreek · May 21, 2014

These are the results I found. I was unable to find the full game, so here is the BETA benchmarks for BF4. They are neck and neck. http://gamegpu.ru/images/remote/http--www.gamegpu.ru-images-stories-Test_GPU-Action-Battlefield_4_Beta-test-bf_4_1920_msaa.jpg
So while recording with ShadowPlay vs FRAPS, the 760 does better. BF4 now has MANTLE support, but there are few games that support it. Thoughts? I am still very undecided.

unknownofprob · May 21, 2014

BF4 has been updated now, so the performance will be better as BF4 runs of an AMD mantle engine, making AMD cards perform best due to their better driver. The R9 280 is faster then 7950, due to it's pre-overclocked.

coolcole01 · May 21, 2014

i would not expect mantle to be in a lot of games for a very long time if ever dx12 is on the way. i would ay that whats the price difference if its not much you should probably find a cheap 770 problem solved

TwiztidFreek · May 21, 2014

BF4 isn't the only game I will be playing. It is very demanding which is why I chose the benchmarks for it. But even with MANTLE, when I record, the FPS would be neck and neck. But for games that don't support it, I would be screwed over if I got the 280. IF I weren't recording, the 280 would be the better buy, but since I am, Nvidia's features are the way to go.

Saumya Dudeja · May 21, 2014

Just go for r9 270 x . it fits your needs and outclasses others , it is a good bang for buck.although you would not see much difference between the 760 model .

Saumya Dudeja · May 21, 2014

Lol .sorry, I meant r9 280

coolcole01 · May 21, 2014

sounds like nvidia is your card bud you will just have to try it out

TwiztidFreek · May 21, 2014

If the 280 isn't powerful enough whilst recording, why would you suggest an even slower card?
I have never purchased a video card before, so is there something I'm missing? Everyone is saying AMD, but clearly, for my intentions, a 760 would be best. Please explain.

TwiztidFreek · May 21, 2014

Saumya Dudeja :

Ah, OK. I was confused. My bad.

280 (Non-X) vs GTX 760 vs 270X?

Reputable

Illustrious

Reputable

Titan

Illustrious

Reputable

Splendid

Reputable

Illustrious

Splendid

Reputable

Titan

Illustrious

Reputable

Illustrious

Splendid

Reputable

Illustrious

Splendid

Reputable

Reputable

Reputable

Splendid

Reputable

Reputable

Share this page