What Graphics Card Should I Choose?
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wertie8297
May 21, 2014 4:45:26 AM
I recently got an Intel Xeon E5-2470v2 out of an old server box that I got from a bin (Score), and I need a graphics card. I intend on using the computer for gaming, and if possible, recording. The type of games I would like to play are DayZ and Battlefield 4. As cheap as possible but also with good performance (I don't mind if it's something like $500, just as long as it's worth the money).
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May 21, 2014 4:58:05 AM
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wertie8297
May 21, 2014 5:02:46 AM
unknownofprob said:
still a great choice, that card needs a very good cooler, otherwise your going into the 90 degrees Celsius under load, this stays under 75. This card isn't even a good overclocking card, so I still strongly suggest it.-
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wertie8297
May 21, 2014 5:11:34 AM
unknownofprob said:
compare....There is no comparison. The R9 290 will crush the GTX 550. BF4, you won't get much better, BF4 uses AMD Mantle engine so this card has huge advantages over Nvidia, it can play it extremely well as well as DayZ. It can max out any game 1080p. With this card you get BF4 free with purchase.-
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The GTX550 isn't remotely in the same ballpark.
For $500 and NVidia you should get the EVGA GTX780 967MHz card.
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-03gp42784k...
The STOCK R9-290 and stock GTX780 both get almost exactly the same performance:
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/R9_290/26.html
Not sure about the R9-290 discussed above, but the EVGA model I recommend is above stock by about 10% (100/91). http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/EVGA/GTX_780_SC_ACX_...
Having said that, a few games have had DX11 enhancements now and run a bit better on the NVidia card.
For $500 and NVidia you should get the EVGA GTX780 967MHz card.
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-03gp42784k...
The STOCK R9-290 and stock GTX780 both get almost exactly the same performance:
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/R9_290/26.html
Not sure about the R9-290 discussed above, but the EVGA model I recommend is above stock by about 10% (100/91). http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/EVGA/GTX_780_SC_ACX_...
Having said that, a few games have had DX11 enhancements now and run a bit better on the NVidia card.
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wertie8297 said:
unknownofprob said:
still a great choice, that card needs a very good cooler, otherwise your going into the 90 degrees Celsius under load, this stays under 75. This card isn't even a good overclocking card, so I still strongly suggest it.What resolution do you want to play at?
If it's 1920 x 1080p you can go quite a few rungs below the R9 290 and still get great performance. The 290 is level with the GTX 780 (but that cost allot more for slightly less performance, the 290 is a great deal in its segment). For 1080p the R9 270X or GTX 760 are the sweet spot cards imo.
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wertie8297
May 21, 2014 5:14:57 AM
wertie8297
May 21, 2014 5:16:11 AM
cdrkf said:
wertie8297 said:
unknownofprob said:
still a great choice, that card needs a very good cooler, otherwise your going into the 90 degrees Celsius under load, this stays under 75. This card isn't even a good overclocking card, so I still strongly suggest it.What resolution do you want to play at?
If it's 1920 x 1080p you can go quite a few rungs below the R9 290 and still get great performance. The 290 is level with the GTX 780 (but that cost allot more for slightly less performance, the 290 is a great deal in its segment). For 1080p the R9 270X or GTX 760 are the sweet spot cards imo.
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wertie8297
May 21, 2014 5:19:29 AM
unknownofprob said:
yes 1920x1080 is 1080p.1600MHz 16GB (2x8GB) of ram is a good amount to have right now, later on, 8GB won't be enough for gaming.
I live in Australia and it'll be around $200 for a good set, G-Skill Trident-X 1600Mhz 2x8GB from MSY.
Ok. So how much am I looking at for the graphics card, and what monitor do you recommend?
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BF4 and Mantle:
1) AMD does not "crush" NVidia. It varies quite a bit and basically works better when the CPU is relatively weak. Some of the numbers I saw were as low as 10% improvement (same AMD setup not compared to NVidia).
2) There were also some problems with MANTLE and I'm not sure what the state of this is now.
3) Finally, NVidia has been doing DX11 optimizations and getting better performance out of some games including BF4.
http://www.maximumpc.com/nvidia_takes_mantle_enhanced_d...
"It then provided these specific numbers comparing a GeForce 780 Ti vs. an R9 290X on Mantle:
StarSwarm - 16% faster
Battlefield 4 - 12% faster
Thief - 7% faster"
1) AMD does not "crush" NVidia. It varies quite a bit and basically works better when the CPU is relatively weak. Some of the numbers I saw were as low as 10% improvement (same AMD setup not compared to NVidia).
2) There were also some problems with MANTLE and I'm not sure what the state of this is now.
3) Finally, NVidia has been doing DX11 optimizations and getting better performance out of some games including BF4.
http://www.maximumpc.com/nvidia_takes_mantle_enhanced_d...
"It then provided these specific numbers comparing a GeForce 780 Ti vs. an R9 290X on Mantle:
StarSwarm - 16% faster
Battlefield 4 - 12% faster
Thief - 7% faster"
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wertie8297
May 21, 2014 5:23:42 AM
photonboy said:
Good one.BTW, 8GB is plenty for now and it is likely to be YEARS before a game will benefit more considering Windows can use as little as 1GB and very few games use more than 3GB.
Plus, you can always buy more in two years if you do and it should be cheaper by then.
depends on what you do, 8GB will not be enough (Gaming to extent) But other tasks (if you do any others?), no.
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Linked is a review of the 290 Asus stated above. A good read. Also take note of conclusions:
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_radeon_r9_290...
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_radeon_r9_290...
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slimething
May 23, 2014 2:22:16 PM
photonboy said:
BF4 and Mantle:1) AMD does not "crush" NVidia. It varies quite a bit and basically works better when the CPU is relatively weak. Some of the numbers I saw were as low as 10% improvement (same AMD setup not compared to NVidia).
2) There were also some problems with MANTLE and I'm not sure what the state of this is now.
3) Finally, NVidia has been doing DX11 optimizations and getting better performance out of some games including BF4.
http://www.maximumpc.com/nvidia_takes_mantle_enhanced_d...
"It then provided these specific numbers comparing a GeForce 780 Ti vs. an R9 290X on Mantle:
StarSwarm - 16% faster
Battlefield 4 - 12% faster
Thief - 7% faster"
Probably closer to the truth: http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/180088-nvidias-questi... A motley crew of deceivers they are and some of the extra performance in 337.5 is coming from the fact that nvidia has upped the boost frequency in drivers for all their cards... again, and increased the gpu max temps before it will throttle, which people are reporting as overheating and higher running temperatures for their cards.
I don't believe for one second those supposed "benchmarks" especially if they aren't using 64 player multiplayer servers. I've compared multiple BF4 videos I've made to those with nVidia cards. Running Mantle, even the 780ti has a hard time beating my $300 280x.
Not impressed.
GTX 780ti 337.50 drivers w/comparable pc hardware, BF4 Golmud Railway "Optimal settings" (assumed to be Ultra)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEUa3PEEI-I
My 280x BF4 Golmud Railway Ultra Settings Mantle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpUGy6vMAjo&feature=you...
Battlefield 4 Frame Time Analyzer Results:
File imported: C:\Users\****\Documents\Battlefield 4\FrameTimeLog005.csv
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Frame Time Avg CPU Frame Avg GPU Frame Avg
88.32 FPS 88.292 FPS 92.276 FPS
Max FPS Max FPS (CPU) Max FPS (GPU)
182.149 FPS 200.401 FPS 182.482 FPS
Min FPS Min FPS (CPU) Min FPS (GPU)
49.826 FPS 32.404 FPS 53.533 FPS
Time Spent: FPS %: FPS %(CPU): FPS %(GPU):
Above 200 FPS: 0 % 0.19 % 0 %
Above 144 FPS: 1.43 % 1.87 % 1.95 %
Above 120 FPS: 5.14 % 5.4 % 7.91 %
Above 100 FPS: 20.58 % 21.06 % 27.57 %
Above 90 FPS: 41.79 % 40.35 % 53.06 %
Above 60 FPS: 99.86 % 99.77 % 99.93 %
Above 45 FPS: 100 % 99.98 % 100 %
Above 30 FPS: 100 % 100 % 100 %
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