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May 21, 2014 9:25:43 AM

I was going to buy a gaming pc till I thought about future, well we all know a gaming pc can't hold the games on "high" settings for many years, but I wanted to know if it can hold more than 4 years...
Otherwise, I am going to buy a console xbox one or ps4(haven't decided yet) which are able to play the games at least 5 years till the next gen...

I wanted to build this pc:

case: strike x one
cpu: amd fx 6300
gpu: r9 270 OC
ram: corsair vengeance pro 2x4gb(8gb) 1866mhz
mobo: gigabyte ga-970a-ud3p
hdd: WD blue 1tb
psu: corsair power supply VS 650W

Will this handle the future games on "high" 40-60fps 4-5 more years? or do I have to upgrade gpu-mobo-cpu(main hardware for gaming) after every 2-3 years? Every answer is appreciated

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May 21, 2014 9:30:02 AM

Maybe for the current games you will be able to handle on high with 40fps, but in order for your system to handle games like that for the next 4-5 years I would suggest getting an i5 4670k and something like an r9 280x or gtx 770.
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May 21, 2014 9:32:49 AM

ivDeTox said:
Maybe for the current games you will be able to handle on high with 40fps, but in order for your system to handle games like that for the next 4-5 years I would suggest getting an i5 4670k and something like an r9 280x or gtx 770.


That's the problem mate, if you buy a console you can play the games(on "high" I think) for 5 years at least till the next gen comes out and it's much cheaper, I have a budget so it will be very expensive to go for a good overclockable mobo with an unlocked i5 and a gpu beast...
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May 21, 2014 9:38:32 AM

OCmyJob said:
ivDeTox said:
Maybe for the current games you will be able to handle on high with 40fps, but in order for your system to handle games like that for the next 4-5 years I would suggest getting an i5 4670k and something like an r9 280x or gtx 770.


That's the problem mate, if you buy a console you can play the games(on "high" I think) for 5 years at least till the next gen comes out and it's much cheaper, I have a budget so it will be very expensive to go for a good overclockable mobo with an unlocked i5 and a gpu beast...


I've been a console gamer my whole life. I do feel as if consoles are far cheaper than PCs in the long run. Your system will run games no matter what with no compatibility issues. I don't believe that any PC build will be able to match the value of the PS4 right now. When people give you those builds that claim they're just as good as a PS4 for $400, a lot of times they leave out the operating system that you need, which is an extra $100.

PCs will always remain more powerful than consoles. Consoles don't run games on "high settings". In the future when graphics get even better, they'll have to be scaled down in order for consoles to run them. Console hardware is already lagging behind PC, but developers fine tune their games in order for them to run smoothly on a console.

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May 21, 2014 9:47:00 AM

ivDeTox said:
OCmyJob said:
ivDeTox said:
Maybe for the current games you will be able to handle on high with 40fps, but in order for your system to handle games like that for the next 4-5 years I would suggest getting an i5 4670k and something like an r9 280x or gtx 770.


That's the problem mate, if you buy a console you can play the games(on "high" I think) for 5 years at least till the next gen comes out and it's much cheaper, I have a budget so it will be very expensive to go for a good overclockable mobo with an unlocked i5 and a gpu beast...


I've been a console gamer my whole life. I do feel as if consoles are far cheaper than PCs in the long run. Your system will run games no matter what with no compatibility issues. I don't believe that any PC build will be able to match the value of the PS4 right now. When people give you those builds that claim they're just as good as a PS4 for $400, a lot of times they leave out the operating system that you need, which is an extra $100.

PCs will always remain more powerful than consoles. Consoles don't run games on "high settings". In the future when graphics get even better, they'll have to be scaled down in order for consoles to run them. Console hardware is already lagging behind PC, but developers fine tune their games in order for them to run smoothly on a console.



Agreed. Consoles have nice graphics, but if you build a "beast" pc, the pc will win the battle. The problem is you must upgrade your pc every few years, so that means maybe 300-400$ every 2-3 years? But you don't need to upgrade your console, so 5 years 0$ on upgrading, of course you have to buy games don't forget that, pc games are a little bit cheaper but still you have to have much money to build a nice pc.

I don't really know mate, I liked my build but I think I have to upgrade it every few years to be able to play games nicely.

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May 21, 2014 9:54:03 AM

Okay, there is alot involved with explaining this. consoles can never run any game that is also avalible for pc on the games highest settings. Period.

the is dfferences. the pc version of games is always the flag ship version of anygames. game companys do alot to get games to run good on consoles. such things or implementing different texture files that are not as detailed but look good, reducing shader quality, lowering resolution. yes the PS4 can handle BF4 cranked up to 900p.. but there are noticable differances. exspecially between the PC X1 and PS4, play a compairison video. you tube it. you can see the differances.

med settings with high texture quality on PC is what the consoles can do. a R9280x can play BF4 all on ultra at 1080p. everything is also better, shader quality, textures, audio, everything.

who ever told you consoles can hold five years on high... knows nothing about pc hardware or anything for that matter.

I own a Xbox 1.. my Pc is way better.. way more money but way better. the APU in the PS4 and X1 is a low power chip by AMD. the same chip would not perform so well as a pc chip as it does as a console chip cause of the software. windows + apps + games + everything really running on a pc eats up hardware... a console.. has almost nothing running and can fully utilize the hardware.

its up to you if you want to build that system. its a great system. id get the 270x not the plain 270. or a 280x. but if money is tight and you cant afford a PC the a console is a solid alternative if you enjoy them.

the PS4 and X1 are 90% maxxed out on the power. they both support weak chips compaired to what was in the 360 and ps3 when those where released. this gen of consoles is not a good one. pubishers are saying they are using the full potential of these systems. braging about BF4 on med high setting at 900p..... its a joke compaired to PC gaming.

do your own research. a system with more power then the new consoles now will always be more powerfull.

Id get the 280x, 16gb ram, 3tb HD and a SSD small one. 60GB or 120GB (for os install, maybe game or two)


up to you buddy :)  make your self happy.
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May 21, 2014 9:54:21 AM

For people that think consoles play games on high for 5 years. Get out.
The xbox one may play most games on high settings for 2 more years, but at 720P
The ps4 might do the same at 1080p but several titles will either run at 1366 x 768 or 1600 x 900

And you know what the best part is? They might not even be running @ 60 frames per second. alot of games are going to be 30fps or 45fps. Just look what bf4 did to the xbox 360. you couldn't play the 32 player matches as it was to laggy. Think what battle front and battlefield 5 will do to it, who knows, cod might be 1080p on the xbox. @30 fps. Your games won't always run at high settings either. a lot of them will be very low to low settings in there 4 - 5th year. Maybe medium settings from years 3-4.

You can always find a old windows 7 pc and then just transfer the key and do the 19$ upgrade to 8.1.
Also, the money you will save on games by buying steam specials and getting some games free could easily go to buying better / more hardware.

But i would definitely recommend that you buy a high end mobo and either a 4820k if you plan to keep it longer then 5 years or a 4670K for 3+ years. I would also stick with that HDD, PSU and ram. A Bit Phoenix ghost or a 760T might go a long way for you.
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May 21, 2014 9:54:41 AM

FFS, consoles don't run at "high" settings for 5+ years.
They run on "high" for the first couple years, then they run on medium for the next couple years.
Then, by year 6 or 7, they run on low settings, at 720p, 30 fps.

Crysis 3 ran below minimum settings at 600p, 30 fps on the PS3.
Watch Dogs is already running high settings, 900p, 30 fps on the PS4, and the PS4 is still new. It'll only get worse.

Decent PCs outlast consoles even without upgrades; an R9 270 and FX-6300 is still stronger than the hardware in a PS4. The only difference is you probably won't want to run at 30 fps 720p on a PC like the consoles have to, to extend the lifespan after 4 years.
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May 21, 2014 10:20:04 AM

@WarCrysis and @Its_Byte_00 nice suggestions but I don't really have that money to buy SSDs, unlocked i5, or for a r9 280x
@Rationale true your last sentence...

I agree with you guys, you are all correct, a pc can be more powerful than a console, but you must have money for it... I live in Greece and the ps4 costs 410 euros= 560 US dollars and the pc I built 570 euros= 779 US dollars so this is really my budget, so I guess my build will handle the games at least on "medium" 1080p for 4 years or something like that?
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May 21, 2014 10:28:13 AM

Ok this is thing at the start of console life normally they are a better value if your talking about Graphics only. However if you look at watch dogs which is coming it on the PS4 is only running at 900p and for the Xbox its running at 720p and the systems haven't even been out a year yet. On the PC your building you should be able to run it at 1080p.


Really the PC bring flexibilty so your right if you want eye dropping graphics you may have to upgrade in two year otherwise the games you play on your PC may only look 10-20% better in a few years compaired to console however at least you have the option of upgrading. You also have to factor in that even if your only buying AAA games for the PC and console, PC game tend to run for $10 cheaper than the console counter part since they don't have to pay the license fee to MS or sony they also drop quicker in price because of this on the PC. So you could use that money you save to invest in a better GPU down the road.

Not to mention you probably would notice the different better if you played your console games up close as you probably would with a PC but that would probably defeat the porpose. I'm not trying to "poopo" consoles I think they have there place and I plan to buy a xbox/ps4 in the future when there prices drop and they have games that I want to play which aren't being release on PC.
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May 21, 2014 10:47:02 AM

ikaz said:
Ok this is thing at the start of console life normally they are a better value if your talking about Graphics only. However if you look at watch dogs which is coming it on the PS4 is only running at 900p and for the Xbox its running at 720p and the systems haven't even been out a year yet. On the PC your building you should be able to run it at 1080p.


Really the PC bring flexibilty so your right if you want eye dropping graphics you may have to upgrade in two year otherwise the games you play on your PC may only look 10-20% better in a few years compaired to console however at least you have the option of upgrading. You also have to factor in that even if your only buying AAA games for the PC and console, PC game tend to run for $10 cheaper than the console counter part since they don't have to pay the license fee to MS or sony they also drop quicker in price because of this on the PC. So you could use that money you save to invest in a better GPU down the road.

Not to mention you probably would notice the different better if you played your console games up close as you probably would with a PC but that would probably defeat the porpose. I'm not trying to "poopo" consoles I think they have there place and I plan to buy a xbox/ps4 in the future when there prices drop and they have games that I want to play which aren't being release on PC.


Yeah it's nice that you can upgrade your pc, but it also costs a lot of money, like buying a 2nd console... but I really love the exclusives of ps4 (like uncharted 4) and xbox's exclusives. In addition I don't really know which of the consoles is the best (too many fanboys arguing you know...) PC will always be the better choice, but it will always cost more than a console... the only thing I hate on a console is that it is very difficult to play FPS... it is way more easier to play with a mouse rather than playing with a ps controller...
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May 21, 2014 10:49:46 AM

Im at pc gaming at the moment but i really like console gaming also
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May 21, 2014 10:54:56 AM

Well yes exclusives are the main reason to buy a console and one of the reason why console are cheaper than PC is every piece game that is sold for Xbox/PS4 ms and sony get a piece. So if the average person buys 4 new games a year and MS/sony make $10 per game for license fees and they have 10 million consoles out there that 100 million a year in license fees alone that how they make there money.


That being said currently (imho) Sony nor MS have enough good game to warrent purchase of either system. Personally if I was I would save my money and wait until either this time next year or at least BF. Normally it takes about 2 -3 year after a console is launched to get good exlusives.
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May 21, 2014 11:01:58 AM

ikaz said:
Well yes exclusives are the main reason to buy a console and one of the reason why console are cheaper than PC is every piece game that is sold for Xbox/PS4 ms and sony get a piece. So if the average person buys 4 new games a year and MS/sony make $10 per game for license fees and they have 10 million consoles out there that 100 million a year in license fees alone that how they make there money.


That being said currently (imho) Sony nor MS have enough good game to warrent purchase of either system. Personally if I was I would save my money and wait until either this time next year or at least BF. Normally it takes about 2 -3 year after a console is launched to get good exlusives.


OFC I wouldn't buy the console now, I would wait till the slim versions are released so they fix ps4 problems and till more games are released... but the game I really loved as I said is un3 and I can't wait till un4 comes out... Therefore I haven't had a xbox yet so I don't really know if it is nice... but I have heard it's easier to play fps on a xbox because of the more comfortable controller of xbox

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May 22, 2014 4:48:02 AM

Hey, look. Its up to you :bounce: 

your original set up looked good. AMD has CPUs for under 100$ for the fm2+ platform. There is a 100$ quad core that just came out that is awesome for the price.

I didn't know your budget was so tight. X1 or ps4 r nice. I fear we will have PS5 soon. I see Nintendo releasing a console that competes as well.

but if PC is where you wanna be understand that a decent mother board is a must. Get 8gb of ddr 3 1600. The 70 - 100$ and CPU for the fm2+ platform. Get a 270 not the x version a 1tb hard drive. And a decent power supply. You want a nice mother board and power supply cause the two parts you more then likely won't upgrade.

as far as a case... No one cares. It just holds the hard ware. Buy a plan Jane 30$ case, with free shipping. The cleanest looking one you can find. All black or something. Get the lit on DVD drive, if you have win 7 on a laptop or computer in the house hold us the key and install win 7. That's a 100$ savings. Remember you can upgrade one peace at a time and sell the parts you replace.

a computer like this will do fine and play your games.

unlike the am3 chips AMD will be putting out ne fm2 chips so there is more to come.

you don't need amazing hardware. Its just bragging rights
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May 22, 2014 5:12:25 AM

13340531,0,1506112 said:
Hey, look. Its up to you :bounce: 
but if PC is where you wanna be understand that a decent mother board is a must. Get 8gb of ddr 3 1600. The 70 - 100$ and CPU for the fm2+ platform. Get a 270 not the x version a 1tb hard drive. And a decent power supply. You want a nice mother board and power supply cause the two parts you more then likely won't upgrade.

ftr, 2133mhz @ 9 will preform far better then 1600 mhz in very application. the GPU Just needs that fast ram.

Also, you said something about nintendo released a console to compete with the ps4, that's definitely the wii U.
If you set up a basic water loop or just good aircooling then the thing is a awesome console, as games like BO2 and Zombie U Run 1080P60, the system just slows down to throttle heat.

awesome little box though.

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May 23, 2014 2:08:29 AM

WarCrysis said:
Hey, look. Its up to you :bounce: 

your original set up looked good. AMD has CPUs for under 100$ for the fm2+ platform. There is a 100$ quad core that just came out that is awesome for the price.

I didn't know your budget was so tight. X1 or ps4 r nice. I fear we will have PS5 soon. I see Nintendo releasing a console that competes as well.

but if PC is where you wanna be understand that a decent mother board is a must. Get 8gb of ddr 3 1600. The 70 - 100$ and CPU for the fm2+ platform. Get a 270 not the x version a 1tb hard drive. And a decent power supply. You want a nice mother board and power supply cause the two parts you more then likely won't upgrade.

as far as a case... No one cares. It just holds the hard ware. Buy a plan Jane 30$ case, with free shipping. The cleanest looking one you can find. All black or something. Get the lit on DVD drive, if you have win 7 on a laptop or computer in the house hold us the key and install win 7. That's a 100$ savings. Remember you can upgrade one peace at a time and sell the parts you replace.

a computer like this will do fine and play your games.

unlike the am3 chips AMD will be putting out ne fm2 chips so there is more to come.

you don't need amazing hardware. Its just bragging rights


So you mean an fm2+ mobo with a nice fm2 cpu would be good? Cause I thought 6-8 cores would be much better for the new games... and I thought amd will bring out new CPUs for these am3+ mobos
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May 23, 2014 3:25:25 AM

OCmyJob said:
WarCrysis said:
Hey, look. Its up to you :bounce: 

your original set up looked good. AMD has CPUs for under 100$ for the fm2+ platform. There is a 100$ quad core that just came out that is awesome for the price.

I didn't know your budget was so tight. X1 or ps4 r nice. I fear we will have PS5 soon. I see Nintendo releasing a console that competes as well.

but if PC is where you wanna be understand that a decent mother board is a must. Get 8gb of ddr 3 1600. The 70 - 100$ and CPU for the fm2+ platform. Get a 270 not the x version a 1tb hard drive. And a decent power supply. You want a nice mother board and power supply cause the two parts you more then likely won't upgrade.

as far as a case... No one cares. It just holds the hard ware. Buy a plan Jane 30$ case, with free shipping. The cleanest looking one you can find. All black or something. Get the lit on DVD drive, if you have win 7 on a laptop or computer in the house hold us the key and install win 7. That's a 100$ savings. Remember you can upgrade one peace at a time and sell the parts you replace.

a computer like this will do fine and play your games.

unlike the am3 chips AMD will be putting out ne fm2 chips so there is more to come.

you don't need amazing hardware. Its just bragging rights


So you mean an fm2+ mobo with a nice fm2 cpu would be good? Cause I thought 6-8 cores would be much better for the new games... and I thought amd will bring out new CPUs for these am3+ mobos


No, the AM3+ socket is most likely done. There's a rumor they might release one or two more Vishera CPUs, but that's not confirmed, and in my opinion quite unlikely seeing as AMD's architecture meant for the AM3+ socket is out of date and they've officially dropped out of the fast CPU arms race with Intel to focus on low cost APUs.

The console CPUs are 8-core AMD Jaguar CPUs running at about 1.6 Ghz. An FM2+ AMD Athlon X4 760K will perform about as well as a console CPU, because even though the console CPUs have 8 cores, each core is extremely slow compared to a PC CPU.
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