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May 21, 2014 8:09:21 PM

i was wondering how to overclock my ram for my apu base system. i am aware that apu system benefit more from higher frequency ram. i have a asus a88x pro and a a6 6400k with rip jaws x 4gb(2x2gb). i use ai suite III to overclock my system to 4.4ghz and my igpu is at 950mhz. my current dram voltage is at 1.5v. can i get anything more out of my system?
a b K Overclocking
May 21, 2014 8:14:13 PM

Yes, have you already tuned up your RAM in the BIOS? That's a good overclocking motherboard, BTW.
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May 21, 2014 8:17:58 PM

damric said:
Yes, have you already tuned up your RAM in the BIOS? That's a good overclocking motherboard, BTW.


no i have not. but i've heard that overclocking ram isn't as simple as switching it from 1600 to 1866. don't you all so have to increase the voltage too. but correct me if i'm wrong
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a b K Overclocking
May 21, 2014 8:20:10 PM

Well you are half wrong, but also half right.

I can walk you through it if you like.

These APUs really do get a nice kick from some tuned up RAM.
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May 21, 2014 8:21:52 PM

damric said:
Well you are half wrong, but also half right.

I can walk you through it if you like.


well this was my first build. but if you have the time to walk me through it would be much appreciated
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a b K Overclocking
May 21, 2014 8:23:34 PM

Yeah all my other tickets are closed out. Let's do it. Then we will convert this thread into a tutorial for future RAM tweakers.
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May 21, 2014 8:24:38 PM

damric said:
Yeah all my other tickets are closed out. Let's do it.


show me the way sir
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a b K Overclocking
May 21, 2014 8:26:21 PM

Ok well 1st things first. If memory tweaking goes too far, it can cause you not to boot. Are you familiar with how to Clear CMOS? If not I can show you.
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May 21, 2014 8:27:53 PM

damric said:
Ok well 1st things first. If memory tweaking goes too far, it can cause you not to boot. Are you familiar with how to Clear CMOS? If not I can show you.


yes im familiar my mobo has a jumper
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a b K Overclocking
May 21, 2014 8:35:05 PM

Alright page 3-7 to 3-8 will show you where to go in your BIOS.

Memory Frequency ->> bump it to the next highest.

If it boots up, fantastic. You can either stop when you hit your rated frequency or we can do it until you lock up and require a CMOS CLEAR.

Right now your timings are set to auto, as well as your voltages, ect.
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May 21, 2014 8:38:22 PM

damric said:
Alright page 3-7 to 3-8 will show you where to go in your BIOS.

Memory Frequency ->> bump it to the next highest.


so bump it from 1600 to 1866 without changing any voltage settings correct?
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a b K Overclocking
May 21, 2014 8:39:16 PM

JohnnyR said:
damric said:
Alright page 3-7 to 3-8 will show you where to go in your BIOS.

Memory Frequency ->> bump it to the next highest.


so bump it from 1600 to 1866 without changing any voltage settings correct?


Yeah let's see what the kit and mobo can do with voltage in "auto" for now. If it is disagreeable, then we will take charge of things.

I'm speculating that "auto" voltage for 1866 is either 1.5, 1.55, 1.6, or 1.65. I bet it's fine at 1.5v though.

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a b K Overclocking
May 21, 2014 8:47:43 PM

What is the rated frequency of your ram ? stay away from voltage until you have to .
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May 21, 2014 8:50:02 PM

damric said:
JohnnyR said:
damric said:
Alright page 3-7 to 3-8 will show you where to go in your BIOS.

Memory Frequency ->> bump it to the next highest.


so bump it from 1600 to 1866 without changing any voltage settings correct?


Yeah let's see what the kit and mobo can do with voltage in "auto" for now. If it is disagreeable, then we will take charge of things.

I'm speculating that "auto" voltage for 1866 is either 1.5, 1.55, 1.6, or 1.65. I bet it's fine at 1.5v though.


i changed it from 1600 to 1866 and keeping voltage on auto and it blue screened
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a b K Overclocking
May 21, 2014 8:50:05 PM

Welcome tourist, and good question!

Ok let's bump RAM voltage to 1.65v. If it still BSODs then we will bump CPU-NB. If it still is unstable, we will loosen timings.
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May 21, 2014 8:50:58 PM

tourist said:
What is the rated frequency of your ram ? stay away from voltage until you have to .


1600
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a b K Overclocking
May 21, 2014 8:52:06 PM

k bump RAM volts to 1.65v and try 1866 again.

In theory, the motherboard is automatically loosening timings. If not, we can do that.
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a b K Overclocking
May 21, 2014 8:55:29 PM

looks like he is using the standard 9-9-9-24 @1.5v 1600 I would relax the cas from 9 to 11 and try again @ 1866

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May 21, 2014 8:55:47 PM

damric said:
k bump RAM volts to 1.65v and try 1866 again.


ok what is that under dram voltage?
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a b K Overclocking
May 21, 2014 8:56:45 PM

JohnnyR said:
damric said:
k bump RAM volts to 1.65v and try 1866 again.


ok what is that under dram voltage?


yes sir DRAM Voltage page 3-10 :) 

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May 21, 2014 8:58:42 PM

damric said:
JohnnyR said:
damric said:
k bump RAM volts to 1.65v and try 1866 again.


ok what is that under dram voltage?


yes sir DRAM Voltage page 3-10 :) 



ok. quick question should i had reset my bios because its being overclocked by ai suite iii
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a b K Overclocking
May 21, 2014 9:00:58 PM

I would. I would disable all your AI Suite for now.

Don't get discouraged. RAM tuning is all trial and error.
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May 21, 2014 9:04:13 PM

damric said:
I would. I would disable all your AI Suite for now.


but is it completely necessary, because i dont feel like reseting my boot order
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a b K Overclocking
May 21, 2014 9:06:36 PM

In theory it won't matter. I'm not too worried about that really at this point. We have barely scratched the surface here.
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May 21, 2014 9:07:47 PM

damric said:
In theory it won't matter. I'm not too worried about that really at this point. We have barely scratched the surface here.


ok just checking
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a b K Overclocking
May 21, 2014 9:13:06 PM

Is 1.65V 1866 a go or a no-go?

If it's a no-go, manually raise your VDDNB Offset by a couple +'s. If that doesn't work then we manually loosen timings.
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May 21, 2014 9:15:07 PM

damric said:
In theory it won't matter. I'm not too worried about that really at this point. We have barely scratched the surface here.


ok it worked 1866 at 1.65v and it almost impossible to disable ai suite without installing it. i use ai suite because i don't know enough to manually overclock my cpu.
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a b K Overclocking
May 21, 2014 9:16:52 PM

Now you need to test for stability. Let's to a quick test. Are you familiar with Intel Burn Test?

I'll fix your AI Suite CPU overclock when we are done here and get everything into the BIOS.

I can teach you overclocking CPU/APU another day in like 20 minutes. That's way easier stuff than RAM tuning.
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May 21, 2014 9:20:15 PM

damric said:
Now you need to test for stability. Let's to a quick test. Are you familiar with Intel Burn Test?

I'll fix your AI Suite CPU overclock when we are done here and get everything into the BIOS.

I can teach you overclocking CPU/APU another day in like 20 minutes. That's way easier stuff than RAM tuning.


never used intel burn. but i dont understand the second thing you said
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a b K Overclocking
May 21, 2014 9:21:08 PM

Let me get you the link for IBT.

Here:

http://www.overclock.net/attachments/13202

Let me know when you get it installed. It's very important to stability test when overclocking anything so that you don't corrupt your Windows installation.
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May 21, 2014 9:24:06 PM

damric said:
Let me get you the link for IBT.


i made an observation about my system. i might be going crazy theres seems to be a performance boost in my web browsing
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a b K Overclocking
May 21, 2014 9:25:54 PM

It feels "snappier" right?
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May 21, 2014 9:25:54 PM

damric said:
Let me get you the link for IBT.

Here:

http://www.overclock.net/attachments/13202

Let me know when you get it installed. It's very important to stability test when overclocking anything so that you don't corrupt your Windows installation.


doesnt let me download it. said permission required
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a b K Overclocking
May 21, 2014 9:27:37 PM

Well...I reckon make an account :) 

I'm over there in that forum as well.
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a b K Overclocking
May 21, 2014 9:30:18 PM

Thanks tourist :) 
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May 21, 2014 9:32:47 PM

damric said:
Thanks tourist :) 


ok i downloaded it now what?
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a b K Overclocking
May 21, 2014 9:33:56 PM

Run it. it may lock you up or crash you. If that is the case then you are not stable. Of course you didn't do this for your CPU overclock yet so we might be having double the fun tonight.

Keep an eye on temperatures. Terminate the program if it gets to like 70'C It will get hot.
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May 21, 2014 9:42:22 PM

damric said:
Run it. it may lock you up or crash you. If that is the case then you are not stable. Of course you didn't do this for your CPU overclock yet so we might be having double the fun tonight.

Keep an eye on temperatures. Terminate the program if it gets to like 70'C It will get hot.


its kinda hard to monitor my system because i use ai suite for temps and when start the burn test ai suite lags and doesnt respond
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a b K Overclocking
May 21, 2014 9:43:39 PM

JohnnyR said:
damric said:
Run it. it may lock you up or crash you. If that is the case then you are not stable. Of course you didn't do this for your CPU overclock yet so we might be having double the fun tonight.

Keep an eye on temperatures. Terminate the program if it gets to like 70'C It will get hot.


its kinda hard to monitor my system because i use ai suite for temps and when start the burn test ai suite lags and doesnt respond


I would only use about 3/4 of your RAM for the test. leave some room for the OS and such.

This is going to give us a really rough estimate of stability. You will long term test it later.
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a b K Overclocking
May 21, 2014 9:44:00 PM

No problem, start checking temps gpuz . I bet his gpu is running around 64c if he is using the stock cooler. apu will heat up the imc and give errors. Not a issue with our athlons.
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May 21, 2014 9:45:59 PM

damric said:
JohnnyR said:
damric said:
Run it. it may lock you up or crash you. If that is the case then you are not stable. Of course you didn't do this for your CPU overclock yet so we might be having double the fun tonight.

Keep an eye on temperatures. Terminate the program if it gets to like 70'C It will get hot.


its kinda hard to monitor my system because i use ai suite for temps and when start the burn test ai suite lags and doesnt respond


I would only use about 3/4 of your RAM for the test. leave some room for the OS and such.

This is going to give us a really rough estimate of stability. You will long term test it later.


ok how do i setup that?
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May 21, 2014 9:47:51 PM

tourist said:
No problem, start checking temps gpuz . I bet his gpu is running around 64c if he is using the stock cooler. apu will heat up the imc and give errors. Not a issue with our athlons.


i have a coolermaster tx3 with two 92mm noctua fans push pull config
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a b K Overclocking
May 21, 2014 9:53:47 PM

JohnnyR said:
tourist said:
No problem, start checking temps gpuz . I bet his gpu is running around 64c if he is using the stock cooler. apu will heat up the imc and give errors. Not a issue with our athlons.


i have a coolermaster tx3 with two 92mm noctua fans push pull config


Set IBT to high 2gb and try that

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a b K Overclocking
May 21, 2014 9:54:40 PM

tourist said:
No problem, start checking temps gpuz . I bet his gpu is running around 64c if he is using the stock cooler. apu will heat up the imc and give errors. Not a issue with our athlons.


tourist said:
JohnnyR said:
tourist said:
No problem, start checking temps gpuz . I bet his gpu is running around 64c if he is using the stock cooler. apu will heat up the imc and give errors. Not a issue with our athlons.


i have a coolermaster tx3 with two 92mm noctua fans push pull config


Set IBT to high 2gb and try that


yes do this. Sorry I was having a private conversation with a mod about me being a jackass.

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May 21, 2014 9:56:02 PM

tourist said:
JohnnyR said:
tourist said:
No problem, start checking temps gpuz . I bet his gpu is running around 64c if he is using the stock cooler. apu will heat up the imc and give errors. Not a issue with our athlons.


i have a coolermaster tx3 with two 92mm noctua fans push pull config


Set IBT to high 2gb and try that


its says that i only have 1045 available but i have 4gb in dual channel
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a b K Overclocking
May 21, 2014 9:56:49 PM

damric said:
tourist said:
No problem, start checking temps gpuz . I bet his gpu is running around 64c if he is using the stock cooler. apu will heat up the imc and give errors. Not a issue with our athlons.


tourist said:
JohnnyR said:
tourist said:
No problem, start checking temps gpuz . I bet his gpu is running around 64c if he is using the stock cooler. apu will heat up the imc and give errors. Not a issue with our athlons.


i have a coolermaster tx3 with two 92mm noctua fans push pull config


Set IBT to high 2gb and try that


yes do this. Sorry I was having a private conversation with a mod about me being a jackass.



LOL I have those too:bounce: 
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a b K Overclocking
May 21, 2014 9:56:53 PM

Ok so run 1024MB.

My time is about up. We can continue this tomorrow, just shoot me a P.M. or continue on with tourist. He seems like he knows what he is doing.
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