which PCI slot?

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I am taking apart and putting back together my PC chasing a problem and there are 6 PCI slots, the top one is x16 as is the 4th. I have it in the 4th at the moment for heat reasons but I am unsure if it matters? I wont put it in a slower one but if there are 2 that run at x16 is it ok to chose either? There is nothing about a primary slot in the manual just the list and the relative speeds in various combinations that I don't full understand. P9X79 WS and a GTX780.
 
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If this is your card: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Palit/GeForce_GTX_780_Super_JetStream/images/cooler1.jpg
... it has a 6 and 8 pin header (not 3 & 4): http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Palit/GeForce_GTX_780_Super_JetStream/images/power.jpg

The PSU should have a matching set of cables to feed the card. In fact it should have 6 PCIe 6+2 cables available.
http://cdn.pcper.com/files/imagecache/article_max_width/review/2012-11-24/13-Connectors-table.jpg
The 6+2 clip together to form an 8 pin connector when needed. Those cables, marked PCIe, are the ones you feed a gfx card with.

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If there's no disclaimer in your manual to use one of them for a single card, it will be fine. I just did a quick check of your manual online and didn't see any such disclaimer. On gaming boards that is sometimes common. But for a workstation, maybe not so much.
 

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Thanks, when you come from knowing compleatly nothing it's often not the more complex stuff that's so well discussed but a kind if grey area with the most remedial things that I keep finding myself unsure of. here's another quick question on the same subject.


I have the Corsair AX860i and the GPU has a 4pin and 3 pin socket. There is one cable that has a 4 pin plug on the end that then extends with another 3/4 pin plug or I can use this to plug the 4 pins socket with the extended plug empty and another separate cable to plug into the 3 pin socket. I've driven my self a little loopy over the last month trying to work out what's wrong and i started wondering if maybe it needed two cables and it couldn't draw enough through the one?
 

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If this is your card: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Palit/GeForce_GTX_780_Super_JetStream/images/cooler1.jpg
... it has a 6 and 8 pin header (not 3 & 4): http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Palit/GeForce_GTX_780_Super_JetStream/images/power.jpg

The PSU should have a matching set of cables to feed the card. In fact it should have 6 PCIe 6+2 cables available.
http://cdn.pcper.com/files/imagecache/article_max_width/review/2012-11-24/13-Connectors-table.jpg
The 6+2 clip together to form an 8 pin connector when needed. Those cables, marked PCIe, are the ones you feed a gfx card with.
 
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I think so, it's been two days and no shut downs so far. I also changed the GPU's PCI slot too, so one or the other looks like it may have solved the problem. I prey it has. All my front USB ports have stopped working and I was suspicious due to the proximity of the port to the new PCI slot but I cant see how it would be connected and I guess I can live with it.
 

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Wait. What new PCI slot? If this is your case http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=325
...it only has PCIe x16 slots (6).
And if this is your MB https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/P9X79_WS/
...the USB3.0 header is no where near them. Your FP USB ports are USB3.0 on that case and the 20 pin header for that is way up above the SATA headers on that MB. Be sure it hasn't come loose. Also, you might try re-installing the USB3.0 driver again.
 

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Yep their all x16 but then the first and the 4th are the 2 primary slots the others downgrade to x8 and x4 depending how many slots you fill I think. Any how there's an order to which it's best to fill them and the first two are the 1st (the one at the top) and the 4th, then the 2nd and the 5th and so on.
Having removed it from the 4th due to ongoing problems that's stopped my PC working and having no more Ideas what was wrong I started moving things about and the card went into the 1st slot, this is right up against the bottom of the RAM and on the right it's up against the 20-1 pin socket for the front panel, or close to and I mentioned this as I noticed when i tried to check the plug as I had to take the GPU out first to get to it.
If your looking at the board or a picture of it you can see the top PCI slot it quite high up and my GPU is long and the end of it sits across the top SATA ports with the USB3 front port just above the plug sits almost flush with the top of the GPU. The point being that when I move the GPU my shut downs stopped but then it would not boot and when in the end i got it working again I lost all my front panel and a Ghost drive started appering when i use the other rear USB posrd, which is a lot odviously, this is an nother thread:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows8_1-system/windows-has-encountered-a-problem-with-a-device/913e914c-75d6-4acc-ad9b-b1f4c66c7186?page=3&tm=1401117703947#LastReply

I have had problems with this PC ever since i turned it on 6 week ago and I have many threads about the varying problems many of which involved constant shut downs and Blue screens, most problems have gone away for the last few days but non were ever identified or solved, many people have said there are hardware problems but without knowing what it's not much use. Right now it's the lost front panel and ghost drive. This is why I am becoming paranoid about things and the fact it died on me due to the front panel when i moved the GPU next to it short of any other ideas I start to wonder about things.

I am having to work on it now and am in a constant state of fear evey time i turn it on or off i will lose everything and have to start again reinstalling and taking it all apart again.