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May 22, 2014 11:20:04 AM

Hi ,

I am trying to build a gaming rim with following combination:

i5 4440 + ASRock H87 Pro4 (or MSI Z87-G41) + ZOTAC NVIDIA GTX 660 Dual Silencer 2GB DDR5

1) Which mother board is good for i5 4440 , asrock or Msi one?

2)For this motherboard and processor combination, GTX 660 is the best companion?

3)For the above build price, do you think i can opt for any other better component than the one mentioned in my config. I dont want to increase my budget more unless there is a big deal of problem with my config

I just want to play all latest games with max out settings

Thank you so much for your help!

Regards,
Ramesh
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May 22, 2014 3:57:54 PM

What is your total budget and do you need all the components for the build or do you only need the motherboard, cpu, & GPU?
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May 22, 2014 11:32:21 PM

numanator said:
What is your total budget and do you need all the components for the build or do you only need the motherboard, cpu, & GPU?


Hello numanator,

Thanks for your reply. My budget is around 600$ for a gaming build. if you can tell me all other components with the above mentioned config or better ones with the same budget, it would be awesome. Thanks.
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a b 4 Gaming
May 23, 2014 12:32:24 AM

For a full build something like this would work:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($184.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock B85 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 270 2GB Double Dissipation Video Card ($154.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($32.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $624.92
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-23 03:28 EDT-0400)

Keep in mind that this build does not include Windows. It is pretty tough to get an i5 build under $700 unless you have some other components that you can reuse from a previous computer (like the hard drive).

The r9 270 has about the same performance (or better) as the gtx 660 but is a bit cheaper.
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May 23, 2014 1:52:57 AM

numanator said:
For a full build something like this would work:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($184.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock B85 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 270 2GB Double Dissipation Video Card ($154.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($32.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $624.92
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-23 03:28 EDT-0400)

Keep in mind that this build does not include Windows. It is pretty tough to get an i5 build under $700 unless you have some other components that you can reuse from a previous computer (like the hard drive).

The r9 270 has about the same performance (or better) as the gtx 660 but is a bit cheaper.


Thanks for the build config. How about replacing i5 4440 with a AMD fx6300? Some people say that overclocked fx6300 gives same performance as an i5. This would reduce my build cost and i can get a good GPU with fx6300
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a b 4 Gaming
May 23, 2014 8:10:15 AM

Yeah, swapping out for the fx-6300 is usually the best option at this price range. That said, I personally prefer the i5s if they are in budget. Here is an AMD build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.98 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.94 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($200.00 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($32.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $624.86
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-23 11:09 EDT-0400)

The r9 280 should be better than the gx 760 but is super cheap right now. You would need a cpu cooler for overclocking your cpu.
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May 23, 2014 10:20:55 AM

numanator said:
Yeah, swapping out for the fx-6300 is usually the best option at this price range. That said, I personally prefer the i5s if they are in budget. Here is an AMD build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.98 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.94 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($200.00 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($32.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $624.86
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-23 11:09 EDT-0400)

The r9 280 should be better than the gx 760 but is super cheap right now. You would need a cpu cooler for overclocking your cpu.


The mother board you mentioned is this one right?
http://www.amazon.in/Gigabyte-970A-DS3P-GA-970A-DS3P-Mo...
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May 23, 2014 12:00:34 PM

numanator said:
Yeah, swapping out for the fx-6300 is usually the best option at this price range. That said, I personally prefer the i5s if they are in budget. Here is an AMD build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.98 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.94 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($200.00 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($32.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $624.86
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-23 11:09 EDT-0400)

The r9 280 should be better than the gx 760 but is super cheap right now. You would need a cpu cooler for overclocking your cpu.


Also, I am not able to find the psu in online retailers. Can you please suggest some thing that belongs to cooler master or corsair??? How about this one Corsair VS650 650 Watt PSU? i may be overclocking my f6300 a little later and the PSU should be able to give much power.
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a b 4 Gaming
May 23, 2014 12:37:42 PM

The motherboard you posted is the DS3p, the one you really want is the UD3P since the UD3P has a 8+2 phase VRM design which makes it a lot better for overclocking than the DS3P which has a 4+1 phase VRM design (VRM design is basically how much power the mobo can send to CPU).

Also, didn't realize that you were buying in India. XFX is not available in India but there are some good seasonic power supplies that you should go for. The Cooler Master PSUs are not very good quality and the Corsair VS, CX, CS series use chinese capacitors that are more prone to failure and not recommended for overclocking.

This is the motherboard that I posted:
http://www.amazon.in/GIGABYTE-GA-970A-UD3P-AM3-SATA-Mot...

For the power supplies here are good ones:

http://www.amazon.in/SEASONIC-SERIES-SUPPLY-BRONZE-CERT...

http://www.amazon.in/SEASONIC-SERIES-SUPPLY-EFFICIENCY-...

Unfortunately prices in India are higher so it may be tough to get the build I posted for the same price. If you plan to overclock though, definitely get the UD3P motherboard, the VRM design is much better for OC.

For the power supplies, the Seasonic 620w S12II is the exact model I have and is great quality. The Seasonic Eco is a budget version and only available in some countries (not the US) but is still good quality.
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May 24, 2014 1:53:37 AM

numanator said:
The motherboard you posted is the DS3p, the one you really want is the UD3P since the UD3P has a 8+2 phase VRM design which makes it a lot better for overclocking than the DS3P which has a 4+1 phase VRM design (VRM design is basically how much power the mobo can send to CPU).

Also, didn't realize that you were buying in India. XFX is not available in India but there are some good seasonic power supplies that you should go for. The Cooler Master PSUs are not very good quality and the Corsair VS, CX, CS series use chinese capacitors that are more prone to failure and not recommended for overclocking.

This is the motherboard that I posted:
http://www.amazon.in/GIGABYTE-GA-970A-UD3P-AM3-SATA-Mot...

For the power supplies here are good ones:

http://www.amazon.in/SEASONIC-SERIES-SUPPLY-BRONZE-CERT...

http://www.amazon.in/SEASONIC-SERIES-SUPPLY-EFFICIENCY-...

Unfortunately prices in India are higher so it may be tough to get the build I posted for the same price. If you plan to overclock though, definitely get the UD3P motherboard, the VRM design is much better for OC.

For the power supplies, the Seasonic 620w S12II is the exact model I have and is great quality. The Seasonic Eco is a budget version and only available in some countries (not the US) but is still good quality.


Ok. Sounds great. I will get UD3P mother board and I guess i can go with seasonic 600W. The other seasonic 620W gives any considerable improvement on my build than 600W in terms of overclocking?

Also, R9 280 is costlier here and hence i am planning to go with R9 270x. Would i still be able to play latest games(BF4, crysis3, etc) on high resolution(if not on ultra) with this 270x?

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a b 4 Gaming
May 24, 2014 3:34:13 PM

The major difference between the power supplies as far as I know is that the ECO is 220v only whereas the S12II is 110v or 220v so the S12II works in the US but the ECO would not. Also maybe the connectors, I believe the S12II has 2 6 or 8 pins and the ECO has 1 but would have to double check.

The r9 270x will play BF4 (one of the most graphically intensive games out) at high settings 60+fps and would play it at Ultra at around 30 fps. It is a good card for it's price for sure.
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May 24, 2014 10:50:44 PM

numanator said:
The major difference between the power supplies as far as I know is that the ECO is 220v only whereas the S12II is 110v or 220v so the S12II works in the US but the ECO would not. Also maybe the connectors, I believe the S12II has 2 6 or 8 pins and the ECO has 1 but would have to double check.

The r9 270x will play BF4 (one of the most graphically intensive games out) at high settings 60+fps and would play it at Ultra at around 30 fps. It is a good card for it's price for sure.


Thank you for all your help.
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