What is wrong with my gaming rig?

Paul Romer Almarinez · May 23, 2014

Hi I have a question bout my setup, hope you guys can help me.

I have been watching some videos of games that I play and I noticed that my computer cant keep up to this games.
Sample of the gameplay of the games running on the same video card as I do, Radeon 270x OC Edition
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-l8Pi7Vl7k - Need for Speed Rivals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vT3jVYPxEUA - Assassins Creed 4 Black Flag.

Both have smooth fps and when I play it on my system, on the same settings, I get 12fps minimum- 25 maximum.

Can Anyone help me solve this problem so I could get the same performance as these guys do? Without getting exactly the same parts as they have of course.

My specs:
Processor - AMD Fx-8150(Not overclocked)
MOBO - Asrock N68C-GS FX
RAM - 4G DDR3 1333 Team Elite
GPU - PCS+ Radeon R9 270x OC Edition
HDD - 500GB WD Caviar blue 5400 rpm
OS - Freshly Installed Windows 8.1

I am always checking task manager and I see that I dont need to upgrade the ram yet because it doesnt even reach the max capacity when i play these games.

Anyone help?
Thanks and Good Day

pm4 · May 23, 2014

Basic question, what resolution you use?
In that video for NFS they use 1360x768. If you use higher resolution your FPS will drop drastically.

Even older/less powerful cards allow to play new games on high FPS if you lower resolution.

EDIT: You play same games on same settings as they do?
If you do, 1st classic question is if you got latest drivers for GPU and fully patched game.

maxalge · May 23, 2014

Paul Romer Almarinez :

Well they both have intel processors.

But you should be getting better fps than 12-25 though. Run heaven 4.0 and valley 1.0 benchmarks then post your scores. We need to start getting to the bottom of this problem.

Also run cinebench 11.5.

cdrkf · May 23, 2014

Paul Romer Almarinez :

Pm4 is correct- you need to check you're game settings and make them the same to theirs to comapre.

The FX 8150 might be holding you back- allot of games aren't very good at using multiple threads, and the 8150 isn't great for it's per thread performance. Another thing to check- what drivers are you using for the R9 270X? it's important to get the latest drivers from www.amd.com as the ones installed by windows will be out of date.

A good test of machine performance is to run the free demo of 3-D Mark and report you're score- it should give you a comparison table, you're machine should perform similar to other machines of similar specification, if not then you might have a problem.

Paul Romer Almarinez · May 23, 2014

Hi. I use the same settings as it is shown on the videos. Thats why i am puzzled. So is it my processor i should change?

Paul Romer Almarinez · May 23, 2014

Using the latest version of the amd drivers as well. (Not the beta). And i think my games are patched up as per steam because it is not setecting an update.

cdrkf · May 23, 2014

Paul Romer Almarinez :

According to this Assassins Creed 4 should run ok on an FX (well the never version at least):
http://www.hardwarepal.com/assassins-creed-4-black-flag-benchmark-cpu-gpu/8/

Need for speed is notoriously badly optimised for PC though (lots of other people finding problems with it). It only really runs well on Intel i5 or better from what I can tell.

Paul Romer Almarinez · May 23, 2014

cdrkf :

Paul Romer Almarinez :

According to this Assassins Creed 4 should run ok on an FX (well the never version at least):
http://www.hardwarepal.com/assassins-creed-4-black-flag-benchmark-cpu-gpu/8/

Need for speed is notoriously badly optimised for PC though (lots of other people finding problems with it). It only really runs well on Intel i5 or better from what I can tell.

I see. Is the FX 4300 better than my FX 8150?

cdrkf · May 23, 2014

Paul Romer Almarinez :

The newer FX X3XX parts have an updated design which is a little faster than the earlier X1XX range like you have, but not by allot. The 4300 is only a 4 core chip, so really you're 8150 should be better.

The results you're getting sound too low to me, maybe there's some settings that need adjusting in the bios, as a starting point you could try loading the "optimised defaults" and see if that helps...

sourodip · May 23, 2014

You are saying that 12fps(min) and 25fps(max), is that while recording? Remeber, u have a HDD with 5400 rpm.

Paul Romer Almarinez · May 23, 2014

I am not recording my gameplay or anything. Just playing games. I am getting 12min 25 fps just by playing ac4 black flag. Unless i count the loading screens where i get 60fps.

Paul Romer Almarinez · May 23, 2014

I already tried that optimised defaults on the bios. It what i notice it only does is it brings down my memory mhz to 667mhz. So i have to manually setup 1333 mhz on it to recognize the speed of the ram. I also tried the naximum performance settings but it just crashes my system. After a few minutes it just ahuts down by itseld.

Paul Romer Almarinez · May 23, 2014

One thing i have tried with ac4 black flag is i lowered all the settings to the minikum including the resolution at 1024 x 768. I still get12fps minimum and now i get 28fps maximum

sourodip · May 24, 2014

Have u installed the latest drivers after uninstalling the old? What are temps of ur cpu and gpu? What psu do u have? Give it's details.
IS the processor overheating? have u tried applying thermal paste?

Paul Romer Almarinez · May 24, 2014

Hi. Temps of the cpu is going to a max 60 degrees while the gpu max is about 65 degrees. I did a fresh install of thr os so no drivers was currently installed. Psu is huntkey 650w bronze non modular. I have thermal paste on my procssor.

sourodip · May 25, 2014

Those are satisfactory temps. What do u mean by "no drivers was currently installed" ?Haven't you installed the latest gpu drivers?

Paul Romer Almarinez · May 25, 2014

It was a clean OS. So no previous drivers was installed.

sourodip · May 25, 2014

60C is not a good temp but it's NOT worrying.
Are the new drivers installed?
The PSU is not branded and not at all reliable. Don't you have an aftermarket cpu cooler?

Paul Romer Almarinez · May 25, 2014

sourodip :

Yes all the new drivers are installed.
Well I live in a tropical country. Room temp as of now is 33-35C.
I am using the stock cooler of the processor as of the moment.
If i change PSU will it solve the problem?

sourodip · May 26, 2014

Ok,what PSU do you have? Have you tried comparing the results of 3D Mark with others having nearly the same configuration?

Paul Romer Almarinez · May 26, 2014

I am unable to download 3dmark at the moment due to network down in my location. But for my psu here is a link. http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/554/pg1/huntkey-titan-650w-introduction-packaging.html

woworwow · May 26, 2014

Paul Romer Almarinez :

are you using the latest stable driver? don't use beta driver. this happened to my r7 260x once but then i use stable driver instead of beta driver.
i used to get 23 fps max @ 1024x768
now i get up to 56 fps on the sea and 45 fps on the cities (same resolution)
i'm using an old monitor

woworwow · May 26, 2014

Paul Romer Almarinez :

are you using the latest stable driver? don't use beta driver. this happened to my r7 260x once but then i use stable driver instead of beta driver.
i used to get 23 fps max @ 1024x768
now i get up to 56 fps on the sea and 45 fps on the cities (same resolution)
i'm using an old monitor

Paul Romer Almarinez · May 26, 2014

I do have the stable version and never use the beta versions.

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