Question About Power Supply on a New Computer

superjames1992

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Hello everyone,

I am looking at purchasing a new computer for gaming and for graduate school. Anyways, the computer I am most focused on and really want to get is linked below:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229498

My question is whether the 600W power supply should be sufficient for this computer if I intend to use it for gaming (mostly for iRacing and Flight Simulator X).

Thank you. Sorry if this is a bit of a silly question, but I want to be 100% sure before I shell out $1,500 for it. Thanks.
 
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Only problem I have with low-end custom built pc's is the actual quality of the components. The only component you are guaranteed is the CPU, since no-one else makes an Intel CPU but Intel. In order to make a profit the builder must use the absolute cheapest parts available, which is why you can never find the brand on any spec list of anything. Chances are since the psu is 600w 80+, its a tier4 at best, more likely a tier5 psu, which is barely better than a boat anchor or paperweight.
Rule of thumb: if the builder won't list the actual part brand and model, its suspect!

Btw, even a clueless person can build a pc in less than 1 hr, starting from scratch with unopened boxes, the only thing that takes any real amount of time being the...

LogicalProcessing

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Hey Buddy,

I just took a quick look at it and it looks like a fairly decent gaming computer. I question how they manage to run all that off of a 600W power supply at only 80% efficiency. I would be concerned if you had any thoughts of overclocking it at all. The 600W wouldn't be able to overclock that...like at all.

The price looks reasonable but...without properly spec'ing it out by myself...I can't say for certain if you can or can't build it cheaper yourself. I don't know what kind of computer expertise you have but if it is indeed cheaper to build it yourself...I'd say do it. Although then you also would have to have time to do it...and if your like me who doesn't have a whole lot of time for anything...then I would just recommend buying that computer as it is.

I would be more inclined to recommend this computer instead: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883258057

It has a bigger power supply, eight core AMD processor at 4.0GHz, 120GB SSD and a 2 TB HDD, Windows 8.1. That is the computer I would recommend over that other one.

~ Logic
 

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That does look like a really good computer, LogicalProcessing. I am unfamiliar with Avatar Gaming. Do they generally make good computers? The specs are certainly awesome and better than the computer I presented. Plus, the power supply is 850 W. The SSD is a nice bonus, too.

I'd rather not build a computer for now. Soon, I'm going to be starting graduate school and working, so I really don't want to have to take the time and the frustration to build a computer now. I don't really have much knowledge besides the basics, so I'd have to be teaching myself everything.

Perhaps I'll build my next computer in a few years. We'll see. :)
 

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The Cyberpower pc is much better than the Avatar pc. The main difference is the Avatar has a 120GB SSD but for $80 one caqn be added to the Cyberpower. The Intel i7 4820k is a better cpu and the X79 mobo have more features than the 970 mobo, and 600w is more than enough for the system.
 

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Avatar Gaming is just like iBuyPower or CyberPowerPC, they make pretty good computers. I actually prefer Avatar Gaming over the other custom gaming computer companies out there.

 

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If you can build one yourself, I managed to get a tri-x R9 290 Z97 motherboard 2 TB sshd, 8GB ram and 1440P monitor and I7 4790 all in for $1500. Can trump that $1500 PC they have there. So if you know how to build and pick the parts I suggest going for custom build.
 

superjames1992

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Isn't an Intel i7 processor generally considered superior to an AMD FX-8350 one? Sorry, I am just learning. I know the clock speed is better on the AMD one, but is that enough to offset it?

The Intel Core i7-4820K looks like a pretty good processor for the price point.
 

LogicalProcessing

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Much superior indeed. No worries, that's how we all learn...asking questions :) . No such thing as a stupid question :D .
 

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Yes, that is one of the things with, for example, Flight Simulator X. It is an old game (2006) and doesn't take advantage of quad-core processors, etc. like newer games do, IIRC.
 

superjames1992

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I was curious because the computer you linked me to had an AMD processor, though it was eight-core and had a higher clock speed. In your opinion, was this enough to offset the AMD's inferiority or am I missing something?

Thanks.
 

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Only problem I have with low-end custom built pc's is the actual quality of the components. The only component you are guaranteed is the CPU, since no-one else makes an Intel CPU but Intel. In order to make a profit the builder must use the absolute cheapest parts available, which is why you can never find the brand on any spec list of anything. Chances are since the psu is 600w 80+, its a tier4 at best, more likely a tier5 psu, which is barely better than a boat anchor or paperweight.
Rule of thumb: if the builder won't list the actual part brand and model, its suspect!

Btw, even a clueless person can build a pc in less than 1 hr, starting from scratch with unopened boxes, the only thing that takes any real amount of time being the software install-upgrades, which is recommended anyways for the prebuilt since all they usually do is throw in windows long enough to see if the pc works or not, they don't do upgrades etc.
 
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