Sky+ HDD Not Seen in BIOS, Help?

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Barney6262

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Hi,
i recently acquired 3 sky+ boxes which i have no use for. I decided to try and drop them into my PC as a place to store video as they hold 160Gb each. As they are ATA i bought an adapter off ebay that is an ATA to SATA converter.

Looks like this: http://puu.sh/90IqS.jpg

i connected it up to the pc, light is on and all, Drive spins up but i get nothing in the BIOS...
The jumper is on slave, light is showing on the board, Cables are all connected....
I have no idea why it isn't working, i have tried it with two different boards now (converters) but same result with both. anyone have any ideas?

System Specs: (Custom Built PC)
I5-4670k
MSI GD-65 Gaming
C: drive= WD Caviar Blue, Works fine
Windows 7

Sky Drive: Seagate 160GB OEM
If any more info is needed just ask :)

~Barney6262
 
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Does the adapter use a JMicron JM20330 bridge IC?

If so ...

http://www.jmicron.com/PDF/JM20330/JM20330.pdf (Product Brief)
http://beyondwind.duckdns.org/wp-uploads/2014/02/JM20330_Spec_Rev.-2.3.pdf (datasheet)

The bridge IC is bidirectional. If can be configured (via a single pin) to either connect an IDE peripheral to a SATA host controller, or an IDE host controller to a SATA peripheral.

The datasheet states the drive must be configured as the master.

"6.11 Device Mode Master-Only Operation

In legacy IDE framework, we can attach two IDE drives on the IDE cable. The two drives are master and slave correspondingly. But in SATA framework, we can only attach one SATA drive on the SATA port. From the SATA Host’s viewpoint, the...
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mbarnes86

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Hi
Some of these are bi directional and gave different settings according to if disk is sata or ata

You said drive set as slave , usually should be set as master
change jumper or possibly remove it

Then try again
If that fails then Personally I would spend a little more and get a PCI ATA hard disk controller card

Support for 4 ATA drives, two per ribbon cable
then you need one master and one slave on each cable
( master at end slave in middle )

You will find the sky box probably uses some sort of unix / Linux file system and you may not be able to re format them from windows

If so a bootable Gparted on a Linux cd would allow them to be re formatted as NTFS

Regards
Mike Barnes
 
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Thanks for the speedy reply mike,

I did a bit of research before this post and the few threads i could find that wanted to do a similar thing said the jumpers should be set to slave when you want the disk as a secondary, and master as primary.

If it means getting another piece of hardware i would probably give it a miss and just sell off the parts to aid in just getting a decent SATA drive rather than 3 different smaller ATA drives, I know it will cost more but it would be worth it for me...

Anyway, thanks for the advice
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I don't know if i misunderstood what you just typed mike, but the adapters/converters i have are ATA to SATA, not the other way around which is what you seem to think :/
The drives in the Skybox are ATA and my motherboard only takes SATA.

As for instructions, i ordered these adapters off ebay and they came with no instructions.
 
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mbarnes86

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Hi

To make things clear you would need to say ATA hard disk to sata motherboard adapter

Which is what I thought you meant

The ones I have have one ATA connector
And 2 sata connectors
one used when sata hard disk, the other when used with ATA hard disk
And they have instructions!

Google for instructions or ask seller as they may be for sata hard disk to ATA motherboard not other way round

One more thought some times sata ports can be disabled in bios so would effectively be a disconnected non working sata port

Regards
Mike Barnes
 
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Does the adapter use a JMicron JM20330 bridge IC?

If so ...

http://www.jmicron.com/PDF/JM20330/JM20330.pdf (Product Brief)
http://beyondwind.duckdns.org/wp-uploads/2014/02/JM20330_Spec_Rev.-2.3.pdf (datasheet)

The bridge IC is bidirectional. If can be configured (via a single pin) to either connect an IDE peripheral to a SATA host controller, or an IDE host controller to a SATA peripheral.

The datasheet states the drive must be configured as the master.

"6.11 Device Mode Master-Only Operation

In legacy IDE framework, we can attach two IDE drives on the IDE cable. The two drives are master and slave correspondingly. But in SATA framework, we can only attach one SATA drive on the SATA port. From the SATA Host’s viewpoint, the attached SATA drive is master. In order to meet the SATA framework, if we use JM20330 to bridge the SATA Host and IDE drive the jumper selection of the attached IDE drive must be master."
 
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fzabkar

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Page 19 of the datasheet describes the function of the bridge IC's three MODE[2:0] pins. By examining these pins and observing whether they are low or high, you can determine whether the board is in Host Mode or Device Mode, and you can also determine the interface speed, namely 100MB/s, 133MB/s, or 150MB/s.
 
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Barney6262

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Unfortunately all that doesn't really mean much to me with my limited (to say the least) knowledge of storage devices, I can have a stab at it though...

Here are some pictures to clarify my particular situation:

The 'adapter' and how I have it installed....
http://d.pr/i/SzQE
http://d.pr/i/PyjO
http://d.pr/i/QXb5
http://d.pr/i/pvM8

What I see in storage management:
http://d.pr/i/z2NH
I currently run on a 1tb caviar blue btw...

If you need any more pics just ask.
As for what fza said, I can only assume you are commenting on the placement of jumper on the hard drive.
As said before I have it set to slave ATM, I have not tried master yet. Is that what I should try?
Is there anything else that I could do?

Thanks for the reply :)
 
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