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Colin Hartigan

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So just wondering if I should get the 8350 or not. It is a couple years old. And I've heard to stay clear of older AMD cpu's. The main difference I see is that Intel CPU's have onboard graphics capability or whatever it is called and uses less power. Also when an AMD FX 8350 is compared to a Intel Core I5 4670k which is better. No fanboys please I want an unbiased opinion. I dont think there is that many fanboys here though.
 
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I was a intel fan boy and wanted one sooooo bad but i did not have the money to get a i7 3770k ( last year) so i got the amd 8350.... I LOVE IT great strong cpu but you need a good fan because it can get HOT. besides that a great cpu and bang for your buck.
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The on-die graphics won't matter for gaming. You will have a discrete card, anyway. The only benefit is that if your card fails, you can still "use" the computer until you get another card.
Generally, an Intel processor is preferred over an AMD for gaming. But the big 8 core is a decent gamer in its own right. Check out Linus' comparison.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICVeN6WEGgg (it's a 3 part series, if you want to watch that much)
 
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I have an 8350 not overcooked yet. Waiting to get a new cooler, probably gonna go with the be quiet dark rock pro 3. Anyways that paired with a gtx760 4gb and I can max out skyrim which I play quite frequently with no hiccups, and splinter cell backlist also maxed out. I don't know how many frames I'm running but I've experienced no lag or the sort. Hope this helps you.
 
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Colin Hartigan

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what motherboard are you using?
 
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what motherboard are you using?
 
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If you have the money, get intel, AMD uses modulated cores so those 8 cores are not "real" cores. Also the AM3+ motherboards have an old chipset so therefore only have PCI-e 2 while the more modern have PCI-e 3. AMD also is no longer going to release AM3+ cpu's so you should not be looking into upgrading your cpu. I enjoyed the AMD FX series while it lasted. So again, if you don't have the money and are building a budget computer, AMD is the way to go. If you have the money, go with Intel. Personally I would go with the Intel i5 because you will be able to upgrade to the haswell refresh cpu's.
 
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Colin Hartigan

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heres what I came up with
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/ColinHartigan/saved/4NIo
 
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FX 8350
Asus sabertooth 990fx r2.0
Gigabyte gtx 760 4gb
Gskill 16gb 1866 lat9 sniper ram
Corsair neutron 256gb ssd
CM V1000 PSU
2tb barracuda
Lg 14x Blu-ray burner.

That's pretty much my pc as of right now. Also for the previous comentor here you might want to look into the Intel compatibility thing because I've heard for instance that z97 chips won't work in z87. I haven't looked into so I dont know. Also I to questioned pie 2.0vs 3.0 and my conclusion is that its negligible. AMD doesn't necessarily need 3.0 to perform well. Also if you look around AMD is in the works of new higher end CPUs. But it depends on your budget and what you really want to do with it. I mainly built my pc because I got a GoPro hero 3 black and wanted to be able to edit video and play games and its working out really well for me. I just couldn't justify Intel prices knowing that AMD is still really good at what they do. 8350 is even capable of pushing 4k gaming with the right graphics card. So I don't plan on changing much up over the next few years. But to each there own.
 
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The difference between pcie 2 and 3 is negligible at the moment. And if AMD is going to release a high power cpu chip, it won't be till around 2016. Yes, I agree that Intel prices for some things are questionable because their isn't much competition for them and quite frankly, Im not gonna sink my money into a 2 year old outdated AMD platform. I would be most thrilled if AMD released a high power cpu again as long as the cores weren't modulated but at this moment, Intel is the way to go IF you have the money.
 
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Intel CPUs beat AMD CPUs any day in gaming, UNLESS the game can take advantage of all the threads that AMD CPUs offer.

Honestly, the best thing out there right now for your money is the Xeon E3-1230v3. It only costs $20 more than the i5-4670K, while it gives you essentially a slightly underclocked i7-4770 with it's 8-thread glory, which will outperform the FX-8350 in every task.

Here is a good build:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.98 @ SuperBiiz)

Hope that helps!
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $329.97
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-25 22:48 EDT-0400)
 
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The AMD FX-8350 has only 8 threads as well does the xeon and the i7. The i5 has 4 threads. I wouldn't buy a Xeon for my computer as it is a server processor and can not be over clocked. And I would like to see some benchmarks where a xeon will out perform an FX-8350, especially an over clocked one to around 4.8Ghz
 
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Is it possible to overclock a Xeon? Also as Intel may beat AMD in single AMD beats Intel multi threaded. I think the OP needs to look into what all programs he will be using. The 8350 may be however old but its still a top performer in real world use. I can render, burn, play games and it gives me no grief back. I think people get carried away way to much when it comes fps in games. Can you notice a lag or not? Its that simple. As with anyone component though he needs to look at his circle of life (his pc parts in all). Every part will effect how the other one runs.
 
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i7 and Xeon have 8 threads.
FX-8xxx have 8 threads.
Intel i5 has 4 threads.

Yet, the i5 beats the FX in nearly everything besides mutlithreaded tasks and new mutlithreaded games because Intel has more powerful threads.

An 8-thread Intel CPU will beat an AMD CPU, even overclocked, easily. Look at ANY benchmark.

This one, for example: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2013/06/12/intel-core-i5-4670k-haswell-cpu-review/6

*The Xeon 1230v3 is similar to the i7-3770K in it's performance.

The thing about Intel is, it doesn't need to be overclocked to be good. AMD processors suck 2-3 times the electricity trying to get close to Intel's performance.

A Xeon will outperform an FX-8350 any day.

And really, the FX-8350 is still a great CPU. The FX-8320 is unbeatable in it's price range for some use cases. I respect your opinion, but I want the OP to make the right choice.
 
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That's why I said he should look at all his parts and programs that he will be using. But even if Intel beats AMD by 5 seconds in something does that justify the price hike? Not in my opinion. But homework is needed on his end. Example: It wouldn't be smart to get a graphics card for 800 that's only 5% better than one that's 600. So OP needs to look at all variables.
 
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Colin Hartigan

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I will not be doing any rendering or video editing or any graphics kinda stuff. I will be using basic programs no photoshop or cpu intensive programs. However I will be playing lots of games (Battlefield, COD, Arma, and more newer games that might use more threads.) Also I am on a budget so I mean I want to have good fps on most games basically I don't want it to lag all over the place so 60 fps is fine. I want to be able to run on max or high settings. I am building this with saved money and at the moment I dont have a job and money to spend so like I wont be messing around with everything and adding stuff to it. Once i buy everything and build it its going to be it. It their for a good 2 + years probably more. I dont need the best of the best but I dont want to spend 600 buck on it either
 
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Good cheap build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($134.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus M5A78L-M LX PLUS Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($44.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: A-Data XPG V1.0 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: PNY XLR8 PRO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 270 2GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Silverstone PS08B (Black) MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($36.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $521.93
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-26 00:41 EDT-0400)

As long as you don't overclock, that motherboard is a good motherboard. However, it just isn't made for overclocking being a cheap low end board.

 
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not that cheap thanks anyway though
 
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You can't get ANY cheaper if you want this level of CPU or a good graphics card. What graphics do you need? We could get you a $400 build with the same CPU if you don't need great graphics.
 
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no no i think you're confused I meant more than $600 some where around $1000 sorry for the confusion
 
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This is what I would get. The CPU is better (8 threads), the graphics card is significantly better(GTX 760 vs 770), and I saved you a lot of money in some areas (Case, Motherboard).

You don't need a good CPU cooler for Intel CPUs, they just run cooler.

I cut the motherboard down, because especially for the Xeon where you won't be overclocking, this will work great.

I know you might want a big beautiful (satanic?) case, but I took that out for price, and replaced it with the Cooler Master N200. It's a good looking and very spacious and usable case. It really should serve you well. If you have your heart set on that 932 Advanced, go ahead and go with it. I will recommend you an ATX motherboard if you want to do that.

This is a great build and I think you'll love it!

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 Low Profile Red 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.43 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Dual Superclocked ACX Video Card ($309.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX750B BRONZE 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/RSBS DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $889.35
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-26 01:06 EDT-0400)

Hope that helps!
 
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