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First System Build, It Is Not Booting!!

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May 26, 2014 7:45:29 AM

Argh, Okay. I think the problem is that the power button is not correctly plugged into the mobo. I have it all together and pressed the powerbutton to find nothing. I do see the ethernet light is on so I see there is power.

The pins for the case were a PAIN to figure where to go. It is a Fractaral Designs R4 Blackout. I found two case fan plugs which I plugged both into the mobo (that correct)? I also found an LED+ and LED -. I plugged those into the ASRock Z97 Extreme4 in the right spot.

Now the one labeled PWRSWTCH, this was a two-pin plug which I am guessing corresponds with Power Switch plug that ASRock has labeled, but Asrock says it should be a 1 pin.. I went ahead and plugged it in there (should the letters on pin be facing upwards?). The pin that appears to be grounding on the case is another 2 pin plug, but ASRock says it should be 1 pin. I plugged into the bottom where it says groudn should go and took up space next to it.

The final problem plus is the HDAudio. It comes from the front of the case on a shorter line, but the HDAudio on the ASRock is on the BACK of teh board and the cord does not reach that far. Any suggestions? What about the extra cords I found on the case, a molex and some 3 pin. I am guessing those are to plug the fans in for direct control through case?

Could I have shorted out my board? It is a full painted chassis, I had a wrist strap I connected to an unpainted standoff, but the psu was not plugged in, and part of time of course no psu. The room I work in has NO carpet.

For further step by step on what I did to help me read the following

1. Took mobo on the box and lifting the arm placed the i5 4670K processor into the spot dropping it in and lowering arm.

2. Took the Hyper 212 EVO cooler and placed a bit of Arctic Silver 5 onto the cpu then placed the cooler on. I realized I did it incorrectly by not putting the upper bracket through so I had to use Arctic Solutions Cleaner to clean heatsink and CPU. I did it again, but got paranoid and lifted to see if I used pea method correctly. I did so I cleaned it off again, and did it a 3rd time lol. Tightened on the cooler in the opposite side manner with fingers then tighted til slight resistance with screw driver

3. Placed the Ripjaws X RAM into slots 2 and 3 which ASRock said were the Priority 1 to be Populated.

4. Placed Optical Drive in case along with the PSU and SSD into trays.

5. Put in stand offs then inserted the mobo

6. routed wires through the back of mobo as best I could do and plugged in the CPU fan into CPU fan slot one. The Case fans into Case fans 1 and 2 on mobo. Plugged a SATA 3 from SSD to the mobo, Plugged a SATA 3 from ODD to the mobo. Plugged in the LED+ and LED- into what I think were the right spots. Plugged teh USB 3.0 into the USB 3.0 mobo slot. Plugged teh USB 2.0 into the USB 2.0 slots. Stared at the HDAudio plug with no clue how to route it and just leaving it. Then plugged the 2 pin PWRSWtich and the 2 pin ground below it.

7. ran power SATA cables to the ODD and harddrive, ran a power cable to the mobo then the way the psu worked you plugged 2/3 of the same size power cable into the bottom, and 1/3 into the top of the psu. Put the GTX 780i intot he case. It is massive so could not run the wires behidn teh board it was just closer to just go straight to the psu.

Took the case, and plugged it in. Pressed power.. NOTHING. Checked the psu outside and inside and both said powered. pressed power button on board nothing. No fan movements, no nothing.

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May 26, 2014 7:52:19 AM

if your case has led fans and a fan controller plug the fans into it. some onboard fan ports dont have the wattage to run led fans. on your power and reset switches there two pins. look at the mb guild for the right pin outs. the power and reset pins should be right next to each other. (2 pins). not one.
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May 26, 2014 7:52:51 AM

so you have all power to the board snugly fit in their sockets.

you looked at the wiring diagram that is provided in the booklet that came with the motherboard?......... look at it again.



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May 26, 2014 7:56:18 AM

Everthing is brand new correct? If so i would guess one of your parts is dead on arrival. Or its just not installed properly ill take a look at the asrock extreme4's user manuel and see if i can help.
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May 26, 2014 8:01:05 AM

Are you aware that motherboard has a power switch on the board below the SATA ports try that instead of your cases power switch.
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May 26, 2014 8:13:10 AM

yea i looked at the manual throughout.. the thing is the manual kept saying the ground and power switch is a single plug and not two. The ASRock manual that is..

If it is not even powering, and no lighting on the case.. should that be a case problem?
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May 26, 2014 8:18:18 AM

i just looked at the wiring diagram on the pdf. there are 2 wires. a hot wire and a ground wire............. same as every other motherboard I can remember ever wiring.
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May 26, 2014 8:18:32 AM

angry12345 said:
yea i looked at the manual throughout.. the thing is the manual kept saying the ground and power switch is a single plug and not two. The ASRock manual that is..

If it is not even powering, and no lighting on the case.. should that be a case problem?


No you dont even need the case to run the computer in fact its recommended you test everything outside the case first. Everything is grounded thru the power supplys 24 pin main connector and the 4 or 8 pin auxiliary power connector. The case has absolutely nothing to do with powering the computer.
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May 26, 2014 8:21:35 AM

but it can keep the machine from booting.
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May 26, 2014 8:28:57 AM

swifty_morgan said:
but it can keep the machine from booting.


The case? No it cant not with any PC i have ever built or read about anyways.
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May 26, 2014 8:32:03 AM

Its probably a problem with your motherboard or power supply but trust me the last thing thats the problem is the case. If your motherboard has its own power switch on the board you can run that computer naked with no case at all on your kitchen table and it would be fine.
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May 26, 2014 8:34:40 AM

Dunlop0078 said:
swifty_morgan said:
but it can keep the machine from booting.


The case? No it cant not with any PC i have ever built or read about anyways.


never had a grounding problem/short?
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May 26, 2014 8:47:37 AM

swifty_morgan said:
Dunlop0078 said:
swifty_morgan said:
but it can keep the machine from booting.


The case? No it cant not with any PC i have ever built or read about anyways.


never had a grounding problem/short?


Its not possible to have a grounding problem like i said its grounded threw the power supply not the case, the case has absolutely nothing to do with grounding. I dont know how many times i can say that if you dont believe me look it up. It may short if you have a case that fits micro atx and atx and you left the standoffs in for micro atx which are now touching the bottom of the motherboard causeing it too short.
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May 26, 2014 8:47:43 AM

could i have shorted out my mobo?
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May 26, 2014 8:56:19 AM

are there unused standoffs under your motherboard? Did you install it walking on carpet? did you discharge the static electricity in your body on something metal before touching the motherboard? If not is only takes a little bit of static in the wrong place to fry one.
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May 26, 2014 8:58:06 AM

That said i have never fried a motherboard with static even when i was younger and careless although i have killed some ram with static and i have heard of many people frying motherboards with static.
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May 26, 2014 9:12:22 AM

back to the task at hand.................... did you rewire your front panel switches and see if the power connectors are snug in the board? ( both of them )
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May 26, 2014 9:15:34 AM

Dunlop0078 said:
are there unused standoffs under your motherboard? Did you install it walking on carpet? did you discharge the static electricity in your body on something metal before touching the motherboard? If not is only takes a little bit of static in the wrong place to fry one.



the room, in fact, the whole second floor of my house has no carpet. I wore a strap, but I might have done it wrong. My case is fully painted so not great contact, also I never had the psu in the case until mid way through. I would occasionally go to my other computer and hit the metal backplate...

I think I might know what I did...

Okay, so as mentioned the 24-pin mobo connector I plugged in and the other side of THAT cord going to the power supply is like 18 pin then separates into another 8 pin.. the 24 pin it says on psu goes into the bottom and the other 8 pin above. So i did that. What I DID NOT do is run a powercord from the 12V ATX connection to the psu. I am guessing that might have done it but I am not at home now to check for sure. That make sense?

Also, should i unplug the last third of that one 24 pin ATX into the psu and plug the other ATX in there? or where?

and you all say to plug the fans into the case and not the mobo.. so is that what those other black connections in the back are for? also how do I reach the back fan to the front connection?

How do I connect the HD Audio from the case to the mobo if it will not reach?

Thanks
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May 26, 2014 11:05:37 AM

hmm anyone?
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