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AMD FX-4100 Performance/Reliability Issues

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May 26, 2014 3:33:09 PM

Hi there!
My friend bought an entry level gaming computer less than a year ago from play.com which has an AMD FX-4100 OC'ed to 4.0 GHz, a HD 7570, 8GB RAM and all of which is on a motherboard by Gigabyte stored in a CiT Vantage Case. Over the time he's had it we've noticed quite a few consistent issues that've been showing up when playing games, which we've deduced to probably being the CPU's problem.
For instance, when playing a game it may occasionally crash for no apparent reason - the game would just close without an error message. The games we are certain this happens on are Battlefield 3, Minecraft, CS:GO and Team Fortress 2. The PC makes a whirring noise that rises and lowers in pitch and volume, which is extremely irritating.
We also found out that crashes happen more often when using a program like Skype, which uses a lot of the CPU's performance. Quite recently we've also worked out that after playing for a considerable amount of time the game could crash a lot more often.
The main point we made this thread is because we're not 100% sure what's causing so many problems. We believe it is the CPU and the architecture and quality of it, but then again it could be an issue with cooling. That's why we'd like to ask you guys in the forums whether you would know how we could resolve this problem, since I've (in my own experience) received great answers to my queries from this community.
Any help or advice in this would be greatly appreciated. If you need more information or detail about the PC or situation, feel free to request it. We would be extremely grateful to anyone who could help us choose the most effective way to fix the problem.
Thanks!

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May 26, 2014 3:40:15 PM

Xyrophlex said:
Hi there!
My friend bought an entry level gaming computer less than a year ago from play.com which has an AMD FX-4100 OC'ed to 4.0 GHz, a HD 7570, 8GB RAM and all of which is on a motherboard by Gigabyte stored in a CiT Vantage Case. Over the time he's had it we've noticed quite a few consistent issues that've been showing up when playing games, which we've deduced to probably being the CPU's problem.
For instance, when playing a game it may occasionally crash for no apparent reason - the game would just close without an error message. The games we are certain this happens on are Battlefield 3, Minecraft, CS:GO and Team Fortress 2. The PC makes a whirring noise that rises and lowers in pitch and volume, which is extremely irritating.
We also found out that crashes happen more often when using a program like Skype, which uses a lot of the CPU's performance. Quite recently we've also worked out that after playing for a considerable amount of time the game could crash a lot more often.
The main point we made this thread is because we're not 100% sure what's causing so many problems. We believe it is the CPU and the architecture and quality of it, but then again it could be an issue with cooling. That's why we'd like to ask you guys in the forums whether you would know how we could resolve this problem, since I've (in my own experience) received great answers to my queries from this community.
Any help or advice in this would be greatly appreciated. If you need more information or detail about the PC or situation, feel free to request it. We would be extremely grateful to anyone who could help us choose the most effective way to fix the problem.
Thanks!


Sounds like a cooling and CPU issue. It is overheating.

I first would un-overclock it, then take open up the box and take the heatsink/fan off the CPU and clean off the thermal paste with isopropyl alcohol (90% or higher).

Next, reapply the thermal paste, just a dot a bit smaller than a BB and let the heatsink squish it down.

That should cool it down! You can try overclocking again if your temps are good!

Download AMD Overdrive http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/amd-overdrive/Pa... to monitor your temps in Thermal Margin.
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May 26, 2014 3:43:59 PM

Well with the limited details you presented, it sounds like either overheating or an unstable overclock. First check the temps. Run a temperature monitor software like HW Monitor then go about your business until you run into an issue. Check the temp and make sure it isnt in the 60C's. If you arent in the 60C's, go back to stock clocks and try that.
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May 27, 2014 1:49:22 AM

I've read both of your answers and it relieves me to know both are similar. I will follow both of your advices and come back to you with results. Thanks!
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May 27, 2014 6:45:03 AM

Zircoben said:
Xyrophlex said:
Hi there!
My friend bought an entry level gaming computer less than a year ago from play.com which has an AMD FX-4100 OC'ed to 4.0 GHz, a HD 7570, 8GB RAM and all of which is on a motherboard by Gigabyte stored in a CiT Vantage Case. Over the time he's had it we've noticed quite a few consistent issues that've been showing up when playing games, which we've deduced to probably being the CPU's problem.
For instance, when playing a game it may occasionally crash for no apparent reason - the game would just close without an error message. The games we are certain this happens on are Battlefield 3, Minecraft, CS:GO and Team Fortress 2. The PC makes a whirring noise that rises and lowers in pitch and volume, which is extremely irritating.
We also found out that crashes happen more often when using a program like Skype, which uses a lot of the CPU's performance. Quite recently we've also worked out that after playing for a considerable amount of time the game could crash a lot more often.
The main point we made this thread is because we're not 100% sure what's causing so many problems. We believe it is the CPU and the architecture and quality of it, but then again it could be an issue with cooling. That's why we'd like to ask you guys in the forums whether you would know how we could resolve this problem, since I've (in my own experience) received great answers to my queries from this community.
Any help or advice in this would be greatly appreciated. If you need more information or detail about the PC or situation, feel free to request it. We would be extremely grateful to anyone who could help us choose the most effective way to fix the problem.
Thanks!


Sounds like a cooling and CPU issue. It is overheating.

I first would un-overclock it, then take open up the box and take the heatsink/fan off the CPU and clean off the thermal paste with isopropyl alcohol (90% or higher).

Next, reapply the thermal paste, just a dot a bit smaller than a BB and let the heatsink squish it down.

That should cool it down! You can try overclocking again if your temps are good!

Download AMD Overdrive http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/amd-overdrive/Pa... to monitor your temps in Thermal Margin.


Do you think he could get could get a new fan for his processor, as well as a different thermal paste?
We've tried reducing it's clock but it's still overheating.
Thanks! :) 
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May 27, 2014 9:38:12 AM

Xyrophlex said:
Zircoben said:
Xyrophlex said:
Hi there!
My friend bought an entry level gaming computer less than a year ago from play.com which has an AMD FX-4100 OC'ed to 4.0 GHz, a HD 7570, 8GB RAM and all of which is on a motherboard by Gigabyte stored in a CiT Vantage Case. Over the time he's had it we've noticed quite a few consistent issues that've been showing up when playing games, which we've deduced to probably being the CPU's problem.
For instance, when playing a game it may occasionally crash for no apparent reason - the game would just close without an error message. The games we are certain this happens on are Battlefield 3, Minecraft, CS:GO and Team Fortress 2. The PC makes a whirring noise that rises and lowers in pitch and volume, which is extremely irritating.
We also found out that crashes happen more often when using a program like Skype, which uses a lot of the CPU's performance. Quite recently we've also worked out that after playing for a considerable amount of time the game could crash a lot more often.
The main point we made this thread is because we're not 100% sure what's causing so many problems. We believe it is the CPU and the architecture and quality of it, but then again it could be an issue with cooling. That's why we'd like to ask you guys in the forums whether you would know how we could resolve this problem, since I've (in my own experience) received great answers to my queries from this community.
Any help or advice in this would be greatly appreciated. If you need more information or detail about the PC or situation, feel free to request it. We would be extremely grateful to anyone who could help us choose the most effective way to fix the problem.
Thanks!


Sounds like a cooling and CPU issue. It is overheating.

I first would un-overclock it, then take open up the box and take the heatsink/fan off the CPU and clean off the thermal paste with isopropyl alcohol (90% or higher).

Next, reapply the thermal paste, just a dot a bit smaller than a BB and let the heatsink squish it down.

That should cool it down! You can try overclocking again if your temps are good!

Download AMD Overdrive http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/amd-overdrive/Pa... to monitor your temps in Thermal Margin.


Do you think he could get could get a new fan for his processor, as well as a different thermal paste?
We've tried reducing it's clock but it's still overheating.
Thanks! :) 


Thermal paste will give a couple degrees at best. What heatsink are you using? If it is the stock one, you should consider something like a hyper 212(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...). That should help trememdously if you are indeed using the stock one.
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