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Hi, I want to upgrade my GPU, but i do not want my processor to bottleneck the heck out of it. The problem is, is that my motherboard is old and does not support new processors. I dont want to spend extra money on a processor,GPU,PSU, and motherboard, if my processor isn't that bad. I have been told that my processor is ok and i should just spend the money on a better graphics card. I was thinking of buying a nvidia 780 ti, but i don't want to waste money on it if it will be bottle necked by a lot. And Overclocking my processor is not an option for me because i dont have the guts to do it lol, so plz dont suggest that. So the main question is, should i buy the nvidia 780 ti, or should i just spend like $1400 for a new mobo, i7-4770k,psu,and a weaker graphics card? Any suggestions would help me thanks!


P.S If i get a new graphics card would i have to update anything on my pc? Also trying to play games like Watch Dogs or bf4 at max settings 60 + fps.


Current GPU: ATI Radeon HD 5850
Current CPU: AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1090T Processor (6 CPUs), ~3.2GHz
Current Motherboard: Asus Crosshair IV Formula.
 
Don't worry about that cpu bottlenecking that card. That's still a very relevant gaming cpu. Not the best performer out there, but nothing to be ashamed of. I'd go ahead and get the 780ti if you'd like, but also buy a good cpu cooler and overclock that Cpu too. That will give you a boost in performance cpu-wise for not a lot of money spent.
 
I wouldn't buy the 780Ti, the 780 is just fine or even the cheaper and very capable R9 290 (non-referenced cooler options). Your CPU is still good enough, IMHO, to do what you want. If you feel you need to upgrade the rest of the parts than I would do what you feel is needed. The worst thing you can do is buy the GPU (and possibly PSU if your PSU isn't ready for the power demands of the new GPU) and see how it works for you. You have already invested quite a bit in your current system and it would be a shame to fully upgrade without at least trying it with a new GPU in it.

I also don't think a 4770k is needed for most peoples needs, but that will depend on your needs/wants. If I was buying a new build today, it would look something like this below (especially if your not OC'ing the CPU):

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($174.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI Z97-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($104.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.44 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 290 4GB DirectCU II Video Card ($399.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1054.37
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-26 23:12 EDT-0400)

The Mobo will allow OC'ing of a CPU (k series CPU's), but has an M.2 slot for an additional M.2 drive, if you desire that. Otherwise you could get a decent Mobo around $100-130 and save a bit of $.
 

dubstepftw99

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So you do not believe that buying a new processor is necessary? could i still run games at all max settings?
 

dubstepftw99

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what about this for a build?

CPU:AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor
GPU:Asus GeForce GTX 780 3GB DirectCU II Video Card
PSU:Corsair AX860i
Motherboard:Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard


I currently have a cooler master haf 922 tower so i think thats good.
 

dubstepftw99

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Im currently not sure i would have to check, and im running 1920 x 1080. What wattage would be enough for the 780, 850w?
 
I wouldn't bother upgrading that cpu past getting a good cooler and overclocking it. You won't notice enough of a difference to make it worthwhile. I upgraded from a Phenom II 940 oc'ed at 3.4ghz to an Ivy Bridge i5, and I don't notice a difference. I'm sure there is one, but I can't really tell. Just oc'ed that Phenom II x6 and you'll be just fine for at least another year, if not two.
 


Quality 550w PSU at the minimum or greater (600-650w). It all depends on your desires, but 550w-650w is all that you should need for a single 780 GPU. Are you interested in the the R9 290? It's a bit cheaper and performs pretty good against the GTX 780.
 

Alpha3031

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Since you want to play Watch Dogs at max (and that's both CPU and GPU intensive) I suggest you buy the 4790k when that comes out in June
Meanwhile here are all the other parts with the 4770k as a place holder

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($309.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus Z97-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($149.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: A-Data Premier Pro SP920 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($139.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Constellation ES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($50.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 290X 4GB PCS+ Video Card ($425.00 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 850W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1364.92
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-27 00:53 EDT-0400)
 


Or he could buy the GPU/PSU and see how it works on his system. Then if he feels it's not living up to his expectations, he then could upgrade the rest of the system to his needs. The whole point that a few of us were making was that his PhII x6 CPU is good for most things and does fairly well. Thus upgrading all of his parts now isn't necessarily needed at this point in time. He could also just wait until a particular game comes out and upgrade then, because in the computer market, prices are always moving.