Wait untill 2015 for upgrade?

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Hello fellow forum members,
I am stuck in a very awkward situation. I currently have a computer with an:
Intel Core 2 Quad
4GB DDR2 RAM
AMD Radeon 7770
1TB HD in RAID setup
Dell motherboard and PSU

This computer is starting to play up really badly (nearly impossible to turn on sometimes) and needs an upgrade.
I don't know how long I should wait though before getting an upgrade. Should I upgrade now, in September when Haswell refresh is released or mid 2015 after release of DDR4, Broadwell and 20nm GPU?
Have an almost unlimited budget but will not get anything unreasonable (Haswell E, SLI Titan Black etc)

Thanks in advance for your help.
 
On June 2nd Intel's Devil's Canyon is being released. It will be a 5GHz 4770K with a number of 4790K. That would be an excellent time. Do not wait for the September release of the Haswell E. It would be useless. The DDR4 memory is worthless. The 4770K processors, with only two RAM channels are plenty fast in the RAM department. the 2011 series processors have four channels so they have twice the RAM speed, yet they are not any quicker except for heavily threaded non gaming apps.

With an unlimited budget, but not wasting money, I'd get this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($309.99 @ NCIX US)

Of course replace this with the 4790K. It will cost about $350, but will give you the best speed per core which is what games want. The hyperthreading is just starting to help in a couple games now, more in the future, might as well get this and not the 4690K.

CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-C14 CPU Cooler ($60.80 @ NCIX US)

The best and quietest cooler out their. Only water coolers that are four times noisier run cooler. Will cool the RAM and motherboard too.

Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VII HERO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($218.99 @ SuperBiiz)

The best overclocking motherboard there is for the Devil's Canyon processors.

Memory: Mushkin Essentials 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($164.99 @ Newegg)

Get low profile ram so it will fit easily under the cooler. The Noctua cooler will cool this ram so you don't need heat spreaders. Plenty fast and you can probably overclock it but that will result in minimal improvements.

Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 1TB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($458.99 @ Best Buy)

Huge SSD will hold most everything and be blazing fast and will last for a decade plus.

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($148.98 @ OutletPC)

For storing music and movies.

Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290X 4GB Vapor-X Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($659.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290X 4GB Vapor-X Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($659.99 @ Amazon)

With a high resolution screen 3GB won't be enough. These cards have an amazing cooling system that will keep the GPU in the seventies under maximum stress and be silent too.

Case: Rosewill BLACKHAWK-ULTRA ATX Full Tower Case ($189.99 @ Amazon)

The biggest and best case to keep those graphics cards cool. A huge fan on the side blows cool air right on them.

Power Supply: Corsair AX1500i 1500W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($449.99 @ NCIX US)

Okay, perhaps a bit indulgent, but really, how can you turn down Titanium effeciency? When operating normally, this thing will be at its most efficient and will be several percent better than your typical 1000 to 1200W platinum supplies. That several percent equals 30W which is a lot of heat to dump into your case.

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)

Windows 8.1 is an insult. Windows 9 is coming out next year. But for now, Windows 7 is the best operating system Microsoft has ever put out.

Monitor: Dell U3014 60Hz 30.0" Monitor ($1049.99 @ Adorama)
Total: $4462.67

I have one of these at home and two at work. So good they hurt. The ultra high resolution 4K displays are very slighty better but bring today's graphic cards to their knees. Your two R9 290X's will drive this display beyond 60 FPS on any game with the eye candy.

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-27 01:38 EDT-0400)
 

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Thanks for your response babernet.
As I live in Australia it is extremely difficult to get mushkin memory so it will probably get corsair vengeance pro instead:
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=186_218&products_id=23772at I will get corsair vengeance pro

Also will get 2 Samsung 512GB 840pros in RAID along with 2 WD Black 1TB, one to back up the ssd raid and the other for extra space.

I agree with you on CPU and mobo selection but will get h100i for CPU cooler.

Will get r9 290x but not sure to get one or two (depends on whether I want to get 4k yet).

For the case I'm looking at the NZXT 630 because it's large and I like it's aesthetics.

Pondering getting AIO watercooling for graphics cards. Will most likely be the 300mm NZXT Kraken.

Most likely will get Corsair RM 750W PSU if using one gfx card or 850W for crossfire.

Will get ultrasharp monitor but I want it to be good for gaming so looking at all options carefully.

Will get Windows 7 (windows 8 makes me cringe).

Lastly, from what I've been hearing, Devil's Canyon has been delayed until September and there will only be a paper launch on June 2.
 

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($269.00 @ Mwave Australia)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($39.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-HD3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($159.00 @ CPL Online)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($98.00 @ CPL Online)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.00 @ CPL Online)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 290 4GB Black Edition Double Dissipation Video Card ($449.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Case: Lian-Li PC-K9WX ATX Mid Tower Case ($105.33 @ Mwave Australia)
Power Supply: Cooler Master VSM 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($139.00 @ CPL Online)
Total: $1357.33
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-27 21:25 EST+1000)

 

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This is what I've selected for the moment:
http://www.pccasegear.com/sc/p8A

Not sure whether waiting for Devil's Canyon is worth it and still not sure whether to wait for Broadwell, DDR4 or 20nm GPU's but leaning towards a more immediate upgrading as I have to use my laptop as my desktop is literally dieing and the only option is to upgrade it.

This list, without monitor or OS comes to ~$3100 but adding an OS and a 24inch Dell UltraSharp should push it to ~$3600. Want to keep under $4000 if possible (don't want to go unreasonably overboard) but if I need to I can and will.
 

numanator

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Reasons I dont trust the RM:
-Cheap secondary caps
-Not familiar with the OEM Chicony
-Fans turn on late allowing components to heat up a bit

Just because corsair is replacing a good product doesn't mean we should trust it. The RM is ok but not for the price it is going for. An XFX psu will use better components for the same price. Also the EVGA G2 is great for around the same price typically.