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May 28, 2014 6:19:22 AM

dear experts,

I have a low end 5 year old PC which I mostly use for gaming. I am planning to upgrade my PC to a gaming PC. My budget is around 15000-17000(INR). I want to buy a new gaming graphics card(around 7000-8000 INR). And I'll use the remaining money to get a new Motherboard(that fortunately supports DDR3 RAMs), 2x4GB RAMs and a decent PSU(if required as I've seen you guys emphasizing on a good PSU). I'm not planning to upgrade my processor as I think that won't be possible with this budget. My current system configuration is given below.

Processor : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E4500 @ 2.20GHz
Motherboard : ASUS P5GC-MX/1333
RAM : Kingston 2x1GB DDR2
GPU : ATI Radeon HD 4350 1GB
Harddisk : Seagate 160GB
PSU : Frontech 450W (Cheap)
OS : Microsoft(R) Windows(R) 7 64 bit
Monitor : LG(R) FLATRON W1642S 15.6 Inch 60hz

That's all I think would be relevant. If I missed something please ask.

I was also thinking of Overclocking my processor. As I am new to it and don't know anything, can you guys tell me if it's safe for my PC? If not, will it be safe to OC it after I upgrade my pc? Is it even necessary?

I mostly play Counter Strike Global Offensive(around 60fps at 640x480 resolution, around 40fps at 1280x720 resolution with all set to low) and DOTA 2. But I also play Action Adventure games. So please suggest some configuration that will help me get 200+ fps in CSGO and decent fps in all other games with medium graphics setting.

Thanks in advance guys. Hope you will cooperate fully.
a b 4 Gaming
May 28, 2014 8:11:00 AM

The best graphics card that you could get for 8000 INR (about £80.00) would be either a Radeon HD 7770 or a GTX 650. Both are decent entry-level cards and will play any game on medium-high settings at 1920x1080p. The problem is your CPU. It will bottleneck both cards, therefore limiting their performance. Before upgrading your graphics card you must upgrade your CPU.

Unfortunately, I would not recommend overclocking your CPU as it is not designed to be OC'ed and also your motherboard probably won't support it. If you were to OC, you would need to get an aftermarket heat sink (e.g. Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo) to cool down the temperature of your CPU.
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May 28, 2014 8:18:52 AM

Computer__GUY said:
The best graphics card that you could get for 8000 INR (about £80.00) would be either a Radeon HD 7770 or a GTX 650. Both are decent entry-level cards and will play any game on medium-high settings at 1920x1080p. The problem is your CPU. It will bottleneck both cards, therefore limiting their performance. Before upgrading your graphics card you must upgrade your CPU.

Unfortunately, I would not recommend overclocking your CPU as it is not designed to be OC'ed and also your motherboard probably won't support it. If you were to OC, you would need to get an aftermarket heat sink (e.g. Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo) to cool down the temperature of your CPU.


First of all Thanks a lot for your reply.
Though I don't know what a CPU Bottleneck is but I can try researching a bit.
Then which CPU would you suggest?? I can try to buy one(if I buy only 1 4GB).
Also which one did you mean by GTX 650? I googled and found there are several like ASUS GTX 650, ZOTAC GTX 650, Galaxy GTX 650 etc. :??: 

P.S. I googled your Motherboard and found that I can afford it. :)  Would you recommend it for gaming?
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May 28, 2014 8:41:05 AM

sunnyagent47 said:
Computer__GUY said:
The best graphics card that you could get for 8000 INR (about £80.00) would be either a Radeon HD 7770 or a GTX 650. Both are decent entry-level cards and will play any game on medium-high settings at 1920x1080p. The problem is your CPU. It will bottleneck both cards, therefore limiting their performance. Before upgrading your graphics card you must upgrade your CPU.

Unfortunately, I would not recommend overclocking your CPU as it is not designed to be OC'ed and also your motherboard probably won't support it. If you were to OC, you would need to get an aftermarket heat sink (e.g. Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo) to cool down the temperature of your CPU.


First of all Thanks a lot for your reply.
Though I don't know what a CPU Bottleneck is but I can try researching a bit.
Then which CPU would you suggest?? I can try to buy one(if I buy only 1 4GB).
Also which one did you mean by GTX 650? I googled and found there are several like ASUS GTX 650, ZOTAC GTX 650, Galaxy GTX 650 etc. :??: 

P.S. I googled your Motherboard and found that I can afford it. :)  Would you recommend it for gaming?


The motherboard is a low-end budget board that is decent for gaming but it's an AM3+ socket board so it wouldn't fit your processor.

Unfortunately, your motherboard is very old so upgrading your CPU would also mean having to upgrade your motherboard. Your RAM is also DDR2 which is no longer used on motherboards so that will also need upgrading. Unfortunately, I don't think that you have the budget to be upgrading all of these components so I would suggest saving up some more money and building a PC from scratch.
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May 28, 2014 9:52:53 AM

Computer__GUY said:
sunnyagent47 said:
Computer__GUY said:
The best graphics card that you could get for 8000 INR (about £80.00) would be either a Radeon HD 7770 or a GTX 650. Both are decent entry-level cards and will play any game on medium-high settings at 1920x1080p. The problem is your CPU. It will bottleneck both cards, therefore limiting their performance. Before upgrading your graphics card you must upgrade your CPU.

Unfortunately, I would not recommend overclocking your CPU as it is not designed to be OC'ed and also your motherboard probably won't support it. If you were to OC, you would need to get an aftermarket heat sink (e.g. Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo) to cool down the temperature of your CPU.


First of all Thanks a lot for your reply.
Though I don't know what a CPU Bottleneck is but I can try researching a bit.
Then which CPU would you suggest?? I can try to buy one(if I buy only 1 4GB).
Also which one did you mean by GTX 650? I googled and found there are several like ASUS GTX 650, ZOTAC GTX 650, Galaxy GTX 650 etc. :??: 

P.S. I googled your Motherboard and found that I can afford it. :)  Would you recommend it for gaming?


The motherboard is a low-end budget board that is decent for gaming but it's an AM3+ socket board so it wouldn't fit your processor.

Unfortunately, your motherboard is very old so upgrading your CPU would also mean having to upgrade your motherboard. Your RAM is also DDR2 which is no longer used on motherboards so that will also need upgrading. Unfortunately, I don't think that you have the budget to be upgrading all of these components so I would suggest saving up some more money and building a PC from scratch.


Well that's sad. :(  But I mentioned on my first post that I am planning to buy a new motherboard to fit DDR3 RAMs.

I'm finalizing 1 thing at a time. After reading some reviews I have decided to buy the Radeon HD 7770. But I'm a bit confused as there are many variants with different prices like Sapphire, ASUS etc. Which one are you talking about? Does it need extra PSU connectors?

Please recommend a CPU that will not bottleneck the 7770. And also a Motherboard.
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May 28, 2014 10:05:01 AM

My latest PC build includes an Asus Radeon HD 7770. The varients are just different companies which sell the model. I'd recommend Asus, Saphire and MSI. Anyone of these will be fine. It will need a 6 pin PCI-E power connector which your PSU may not have being as though it is so old. This may require you to further upgrade your PSU.

There are two main CPU's which I recommend for entry-level gaming rigs. The first is the AMD Athlon X4 760k which will require a socket FM2 motherboard. The 2nd CPU I recommend costs a bit more money but it a lot better performance wise. It is the AMD FX 6300 and will require an AM3+ socket motherboard. I have also used this CPU in my latest build.

4GB's of DDR3 memory will suffice for most games but it sometimes good to get 8GB's to futureproof the computer.
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May 28, 2014 10:31:13 AM

Computer__GUY said:
My latest PC build includes an Asus Radeon HD 7770. The varients are just different companies which sell the model. I'd recommend Asus, Saphire and MSI. Anyone of these will be fine. It will need a 6 pin PCI-E power connector which your PSU may not have being as though it is so old. This may require you to further upgrade your PSU.

There are two main CPU's which I recommend for entry-level gaming rigs. The first is the AMD Athlon X4 760k which will require a socket FM2 motherboard. The 2nd CPU I recommend costs a bit more money but it a lot better performance wise. It is the AMD FX 6300 and will require an AM3+ socket motherboard. I have also used this CPU in my latest build.

4GB's of DDR3 memory will suffice for most games but it sometimes good to get 8GB's to futureproof the computer.


Well I think I'll try to increase my budget and get the same configuration as yours. :) 
AMD FX 6300, Radeon HD 7770 and the Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2P then. Though I'll have to borrow a RAM from a friend or someone :p 

If anyone else has any other suggestions then please answer.
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a b 4 Gaming
May 28, 2014 10:43:24 AM

What are you planning to do in terms of the PSU?
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May 28, 2014 10:48:37 AM

Computer__GUY said:
What are you planning to do in terms of the PSU?


Well I won't have money left for a branded PSU. The AMD 6300 will drain all my money. I'll look for a cheap PSU in the local shops. Later I'll buy a good one. I was googling and found that the 6 pin connectors can be bought seperately. Will that do the work for some days or months?
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a b 4 Gaming
May 28, 2014 10:55:46 AM

I wouldn't advise that you cheap out on the PSU. If it breaks, it can damage the rest of the components.
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May 28, 2014 10:58:41 AM

Computer__GUY said:
I wouldn't advise that you cheap out on the PSU. If it breaks, it can damage the rest of the components.


Then please recommend a PSU too. Maybe within Rs 2000.
Looks like my whole PC will become brand new :) 
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May 28, 2014 11:02:59 AM

The Corsair CX430 will be fine.
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May 28, 2014 11:13:41 AM

Computer__GUY said:
The Corsair CX430 will be fine.


OMG !! That's almost Rs. 3000. Still, if my PC needs it I'll go for it. Don't want to end up frying my new components. Hope I can sell my old stuff and get some bucks. Thanks for your time man. I'll mark this post as SOLVED now. :) 
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a b 4 Gaming
May 28, 2014 11:24:03 AM

Glad I could help!
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May 29, 2014 3:12:26 AM

Sorry, I had to open up this thread again. I read some reviews,comparisons etc and was surprised to see that many people are saying that in terms of gaming, Intel is far better than AMD. Even some people in Tomshardware got recommended i3 over AMD fx 6300
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2110383/amd-6300...

I also read that CS:GO performs better on Intel. So how about this CPU?
Intel 3.4 GHz LGA 1150 i3 4130 4th Generation Processor
Its price is almost equal to the fx6300
Will it be worth the money? Paired with Radeon 7770, will it bottleneck the gpu?

Please help

P.S. : If the AMD FX 6300 is about future proofing then I'll happily go for it
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a b 4 Gaming
May 29, 2014 4:10:43 AM

No, that CPU won't bottleneck the GPU.

It's mainly about personal preference. If you prefer Intel then go down the Intel route, however I have always stuck with AMD and so far their products haven't failed me. There's is also the added bonus of having 6-cores which the i3 doesn't offer. This will be future proof for gaming.

Overall, it's up to you to chose but there is hardly any difference in the two processors.
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May 29, 2014 6:14:27 AM

Computer__GUY said:
No, that CPU won't bottleneck the GPU.

It's mainly about personal preference. If you prefer Intel then go down the Intel route, however I have always stuck with AMD and so far their products haven't failed me. There's is also the added bonus of having 6-cores which the i3 doesn't offer. This will be future proof for gaming.

Overall, it's up to you to chose but there is hardly any difference in the two processors.


Okay. I think i'll go down the AMD way. One more thing, should I OC the 6300? Will it be safe? Will it help me get better performance?
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May 29, 2014 6:20:30 AM

I wouldn't recommend overclocking the CPU without an after market CPU cooler and especially not on the motherboard. This maybe an option for the future but not at this stage.
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May 29, 2014 11:35:53 PM

Computer__GUY said:
I wouldn't recommend overclocking the CPU without an after market CPU cooler and especially not on the motherboard. This maybe an option for the future but not at this stage.


Ok,, Thanks a lot :)  Hope I get atleast 200 fps in CS GO with this setup. I'm also thinking about getting a better PSU..the Corsair VS550 550 Watt and also Corsair Vengeance 4GB RAM :) 

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