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May 28, 2014 12:06:46 PM

What it says, need OS to be included in price
May 28, 2014 12:12:58 PM

Gun_Show said:
http://pcpartpicker.com/ here's a link its quick and easy


I have used pcpartpicker before, but i would like to see what other people would pick.
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May 28, 2014 12:13:41 PM

How about this one:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($249.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus B85-PLUS ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($98.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 280X 3GB DirectCU II Video Card ($299.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($67.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($15.00 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1001.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-28 15:13 EDT-0400)
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May 28, 2014 12:18:04 PM

Eduello said:
How about this one:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($249.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus B85-PLUS ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($98.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 280X 3GB DirectCU II Video Card ($299.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($67.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($15.00 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1001.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-28 15:13 EDT-0400)


Do the Xeon have hyperthreading?
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May 28, 2014 12:24:21 PM

@Jonathan Tyer: Yes, that processor is practically an i7-4770, but it's marketed as a 'server processor'. There are a few differences:

1. The Xeon supports ECC memory (this is a plus, albeit an unnecessary one).
2. It has no integrated graphics (doesn't matter since you're going to be using a dedicated GPU).
3. It has a 0.1GHz slower clock speed (~3% difference in performance).
4. It's about $50 cheaper.
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May 28, 2014 12:24:28 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-HD3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($106.49 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.43 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card ($309.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($47.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1005.84
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-28 15:24 EDT-0400)
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May 28, 2014 12:36:51 PM

Would it be good to get a FX 8 cpu? Since it actualy has 8 physical cores and is cheaper?
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May 28, 2014 12:48:53 PM


FX-8320 & 8GB GSkill DDR3 2133MHz RAMs: $231

Buy a 120GB SSD with the difference -- or, a copy of Vegas Studio and use the GPU acceleration for editing/output (which favors the Radeon GCN arch)



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May 28, 2014 12:53:28 PM

Jonathan Tyer said:
Would it be good to get a FX 8 cpu? Since it actualy has 8 physical cores and is cheaper?


You could do that as well. I'll be back with an AMD build in a moment.
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May 28, 2014 12:53:31 PM

wouldn't 16 gb ram help alot too?
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May 28, 2014 1:01:17 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($134.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.94 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: PNY XLR8 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($124.95 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 280X 3GB DirectCU II Video Card ($299.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($67.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($15.00 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $997.81
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-28 16:00 EDT-0400)
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May 28, 2014 1:14:11 PM

Jonathan Tyer said:
So would this be a really good one? http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xHtZFT


Yeah, that's a good one, but I recommend sticking with the PSU that was in my build, the quality is much better.
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May 28, 2014 1:19:56 PM

Corsair PSU's are great quality, but i picked that one because of the wattage. It is enough to have two 770's in SLI, which I would like to do in the future.
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May 28, 2014 1:26:18 PM

Jonathan Tyer said:
Corsair PSU's are great quality, but i picked that one because of the wattage. It is enough to have two 770's in SLI, which I would like to do in the future.


TX, HX and AX = great.
The rest, not so much.

The CX PSUs use bad capacitors that tend to cause heat issues, making the PSUs have a relatively high failure rate.
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May 28, 2014 1:32:27 PM

Eduello said:
Jonathan Tyer said:
Corsair PSU's are great quality, but i picked that one because of the wattage. It is enough to have two 770's in SLI, which I would like to do in the future.


TX, HX and AX = great.
The rest, not so much.

The CX PSUs use bad capacitors that tend to cause heat issues, making the PSUs have a relatively high failure rate.


How about this one? SeaSonic G-750 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply
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May 28, 2014 1:37:01 PM

Jonathan Tyer said:
Eduello said:
Jonathan Tyer said:
Corsair PSU's are great quality, but i picked that one because of the wattage. It is enough to have two 770's in SLI, which I would like to do in the future.


TX, HX and AX = great.
The rest, not so much.

The CX PSUs use bad capacitors that tend to cause heat issues, making the PSUs have a relatively high failure rate.


How about this one? SeaSonic G-750 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply


Yeah, that is a really great one; I highly recommend it.
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May 29, 2014 8:58:06 AM

What about GPU? I was thinking of getting a 760 instead to save some cash, and then add another one later.
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May 29, 2014 4:12:54 PM

Wisecracker said:


From Anand



So a 270X would be a great buy?
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May 29, 2014 4:38:57 PM

1) What games do you want to play?
2) What kind of Game Design are you doing?
3) Will you be recording your games?
4) How much video editing will you be doing?

I'd like to know these things before I put together a build. :]
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May 29, 2014 5:22:13 PM

1. Mainly Minecraft, some Titianfall and Destiny (when it comes out)
2. Don't know what program, will know when starting college.
3. Yes
4. Editing the recorded gameplay and uploading to YouTube
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May 29, 2014 5:49:59 PM

Jonathan Tyer said:
1. Mainly Minecraft, some Titianfall and Destiny (when it comes out)
2. Don't know what program, will know when starting college.
3. Yes
4. Editing the recorded gameplay and uploading to YouTube


I would be giving you an i5 for your build, but an i7 is amazing when it comes to recording, editing, and anything to do with game design.

I see people bringing up Xeon, but here's why I say do not go that path:

1) It's a server processor. Meant for servers. Yes, it's the same architecture, but use it as intended for. That's my rule of thumb. The benefits other than price do not benefit you for what you do, really.

2) You can overclock the i7 a lot more than the Xeon if need be. Even if you don't plan on it, it's good to have that option in case performance runs low. ;]

3) [MAIN PROBLEM] Xeon has no iGPU. Here's the thing. What if you receive a bad video card? What if your video card dies? What if it has a problem that you need to address? You have no other type of GPU to fall back on. (Unless you have another card, but restarting and changing a BIOS setting is easier than installing an entirely different video card.)

Now the Xeon can game and do what the i7 can, but the i7 has just more speed and headroom for more performance. It's overall the better processor and not worth giving up ~$50.

Unfortunately, PCPartPicker is down for me and a lot of other people at the moment, so I will form my recommended build in at a later time.

Hope my advice helped you and sorry for the inconvenience! :]
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May 29, 2014 6:00:46 PM

@EpiclyDelicious: Change your DNS to this: 205.251.197.138

Source: https://twitter.com/PCPartPicker/status/472022618015424...

1) It's not meant for anything in particular, the server thing is just a marketing gimmick.

Also, the i7 that costs $50 more (4770) can't be overclocked either and the difference with stock clocks is only a few %.

If you want to OC the i7, you'll need the k-version: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i74770k

So you'll actually be paying $75 more just for a few % of performance and the ability to overclock.
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May 29, 2014 6:40:10 PM

I actually just thought of something.

If you're video editing CONSTANTLY as in every day and plan on doing a lot of YouTube, you'll probably need more than a $1000 budget. This is because your storage space will diminish lightning fast due to video file sizes. (Depending on what program you use. Either way, it adds up.)

If you just plan on editing maybe a video or two every week, an i5 will actually get you by very nicely. And if you get the k-version, you could overclock it to possibly decrease render times. I know i7 is meant for rendering, but it's not needed if you aren't becoming a serious YouTuber.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/kRJJt6 - This is my recommendation if you're not going to be video editing more than a few times a week. The times to render will just take longer.

The reason I chose the 760 is because you can use Shadowplay to record most games and have small file sizes.

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May 29, 2014 6:51:17 PM

EpiclyDelicious said:
I actually just thought of something.

If you're video editing CONSTANTLY as in every day and plan on doing a lot of YouTube, you'll probably need more than a $1000 budget. This is because your storage space will diminish lightning fast due to video file sizes. (Depending on what program you use. Either way, it adds up.)

If you just plan on editing maybe a video or two every week, an i5 will actually get you by very nicely. And if you get the k-version, you could overclock it to possibly decrease render times. I know i7 is meant for rendering, but it's not needed if you aren't becoming a serious YouTuber.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/kRJJt6 - This is my recommendation if you're not going to be video editing more than a few times a week. The times to render will just take longer.

The reason I chose the 760 is because you can use Shadowplay to record most games and have small file sizes.



I will be uploading at least one video a day, and that means a couple of hours of video editing a day.
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May 29, 2014 6:54:01 PM

Say if I were to add to the budget, would stepping up to an extreme i7 worth considering?
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May 29, 2014 6:54:24 PM

The i7 4820k is the same price as the 4770k
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May 29, 2014 6:55:36 PM

Jonathan Tyer said:
Say if I were to add to the budget, would stepping up to an extreme i7 worth considering?


Not considerably. An i7 4770k would do you fine in video editing. It depends on how much you would add, though.
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May 29, 2014 7:04:58 PM

Around $1250-$1300
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May 29, 2014 7:39:08 PM

Jonathan Tyer said:
Around $1250-$1300


How does this build look to you? :] http://pcpartpicker.com/p/BjnPK8

The case is purely your opinion. If you want something in a different color/style let me know. If you go to the $1300 mark, you have about $100 to spend on a case alone.

EDIT: With all your video editing, you may want to invest in a separate HDD. (Get a cheap case because it's mainly aesthetics and get a second 1TB?)
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May 30, 2014 2:34:21 AM

EpiclyDelicious said:
Jonathan Tyer said:
Around $1250-$1300


How does this build look to you? :] http://pcpartpicker.com/p/BjnPK8

The case is purely your opinion. If you want something in a different color/style let me know. If you go to the $1300 mark, you have about $100 to spend on a case alone.

EDIT: With all your video editing, you may want to invest in a separate HDD. (Get a cheap case because it's mainly aesthetics and get a second 1TB?)


A good build, but:
1. It deserves a better PSU, something like this: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1550sxxb...
2. This RAM is cheaper, but equal in performance: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-memory-bls2kit8g3d...
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May 30, 2014 6:12:27 AM



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Say if I were to add to the budget, would stepping up to an extreme i7 worth considering?


No. More CPU cores may increase your output in Percents and do little for your editing and effects. GPU acceleration will increase your output in Multiples and boost calculation of applied effects and edited frames.

Modern video programs are smart enough to pass-through frames without rendering -- the only frames processed are those upon which you apply effects, titles and transitions. You simply record at your final resolution and bitrate in AVC/H.264 and output in AVC/H.264 at the same resolution and bitrate. It's that simple.

BTW -- Vegas Studio premium provides an integrated publish to YouTube, in addition to GPU acceleration of output and effects in AVC/H.264.

edit: Also -- it's ridiculous in a $1,000 build these days not to have an SSD for your OS & apps.

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May 30, 2014 1:44:36 PM

Eduello said:
EpiclyDelicious said:
Jonathan Tyer said:
Around $1250-$1300


How does this build look to you? :] http://pcpartpicker.com/p/BjnPK8

The case is purely your opinion. If you want something in a different color/style let me know. If you go to the $1300 mark, you have about $100 to spend on a case alone.

EDIT: With all your video editing, you may want to invest in a separate HDD. (Get a cheap case because it's mainly aesthetics and get a second 1TB?)


A good build, but:
1. It deserves a better PSU, something like this: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1550sxxb...
2. This RAM is cheaper, but equal in performance: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-memory-bls2kit8g3d...


How does the build deserve a better PSU? A 600W is perfectly fine for that build, so why do you want to bump it down to 550W? XFX isn't any better than Corsair. The only reason I would get the XFX over Corsair is that the price is down to about ~$20 right now until 6/2. But if a PSU gets as low as $20, even on sale, it's for good reason. Nothing about the XFX is better about the Corsair? So what do you mean better?

As for the RAM, since he is video editing, we need to give him better quality. I recommend a 16GB Corsair kit or a two 8GB ADATA V2 kits. They're quality is really top notch and will definitely be worth it.

As for your build, Tyer, it looks solid all around! I would spend the extra money in memory, though, but that's just me. Whatever makes you happy. :]
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May 30, 2014 1:50:34 PM

@EpiclyDelicious: If you want to go Corsair, get something from their AX, TX or HX series, the rest are pretty much crap that use cheap capacitors that can cause early failure and heat issues. The XFX on the other hand is made by Seasonic, one of the best PSU manufacturers out there = guaranteed top notch quality.

As for the RAM, all of the kits will perform equally, there will be absolutely no difference in performance between brands if the specs are equal. And how exactly would you say Crucial RAM is bad quality?
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May 30, 2014 2:50:29 PM

Eduello said:
@EpiclyDelicious: If you want to go Corsair, get something from their AX, TX or HX series, the rest are pretty much crap that use cheap capacitors that can cause early failure and heat issues. The XFX on the other hand is made by Seasonic, one of the best PSU manufacturers out there = guaranteed top notch quality.

As for the RAM, all of the kits will perform equally, there will be absolutely no difference in performance between brands if the specs are equal. And how exactly would you say Crucial RAM is bad quality?


That's not true at all? The CX is a reliable series, successfully working for tons of people, especially in budget builds. The others, for the most part, yes I agree. I've heard nothing about these cheap (as in easily breakable) capacitors and heat issues you speak of. I do agree that the other series are high quality though. But the CX series is still high quality for what the price is. Seasonic is definitely a top notch brand, I agree, but I XFX isn't made by Seasonic. Rather, XFX products use Seasonic topologies, or components. Yes that would mean high quality, but by that point wouldn't you be better off just getting it from Seasonic themselves? (I saw he chose a Silverstone PSU, which I thought they were one of those "expensive" brand companies.)

EDIT: Forgot to mention the RAM. Just because the specifications of RAM are the same does not mean they will perform exactly the same. Crucial used to be popular for memory, but now they are behind the top-notch companies ahead of their game. Corsair, ADATA, Crucial, and G.Skill all are good brands. Now I'm not saying that buying them and using them will render his machine useless and they're so awful it's uncanny, but video editing uses a lot of memory. That series isn't that great. You think that the CX series is awful and it's the same scenario with these modules.
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May 30, 2014 3:48:08 PM

I have decided to cut back on the budget back to $1000, the only thing that really changed that it is a 760 and that it is a non overclocking build.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/tCqGxr
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May 30, 2014 6:55:36 PM

Jonathan Tyer said:
I have decided to cut back on the budget back to $1000, the only thing that really changed that it is a 760 and that it is a non overclocking build.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/tCqGxr


Not a bad cut-back at all. I hope you enjoy your build! :]
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May 30, 2014 10:56:24 PM

I may not agree on the RAM/PSU debate earlier, but I do agree with that^^
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May 31, 2014 9:34:51 AM

Eduello said:
I may not agree on the RAM/PSU debate earlier, but I do agree with that^^


Agreed. Apologies if I came off strong and offensive in any way. :]
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May 31, 2014 9:45:16 AM

No worries, I have a bad habit like that myself :) 
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