Should i upgrade my cpu?

Tommynew · May 28, 2014

Now i have a 7850.
I cant get 60 fps in bf4 even in ultralow settings.
The benchmark with 7850 in the web gets 60 fps in medium settings.
Well then, My cpu is i5650, pretty old i know.
Its possible that the cpu is bottlenecking the gpu so hard?
Should i upgrade the cpu?
Im going to change the gpu, maybe to a 280x or something like that.
Should i change the cpu first?
Thank you.

Eduello · May 28, 2014

Yes, that CPU is definitely a bottleneck.

http--www.gamegpu.ru-images-stories-Test_GPU-Action-Battlefield_4-test-bf4_proz_2.jpg

(i5-650 is pretty much equal to i3-2100)

hanser30 · May 28, 2014

The CPU is a bottleneck, but remember your CPU is an LGA 1156, it's pretty behind for BF4, you should consider changing the motherboard and get an LGA 1150 with an intel core i5 4670k for a reasonable price instead of buying another graphics card.
Should consider this:

http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i5-4670K-Quad-Core-Desktop-Processor/dp/B00CO8TBOW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1401321967&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/Asus-Z87-A-DDR3-1600-Motherboard/dp/B00CRJSV9O/ref=pd_sim_pc_3?ie=UTF8&refRID=1D5TZGYM0GQ3V6PPWRMV
Or
http://www.amazon.com/MSI-Motherboard-Motherboards-Z87-G45-GAMING/dp/B00D12OBEU/ref=pd_sim_pc_4?ie=UTF8&refRID=1D5TZGYM0GQ3V6PPWRMV

you could also buy an LGA 1155 Motherboard and CPU if you are looking for lower budget

You could consider this:
CPU: http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Core-i5-3570K-Quad-Core-Processor/dp/B007SZ0E1K/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1401334986&sr=8-1

Motherboard: http://www.amazon.com/Asus-P8Z77-V-LK-Intel-Motherboards/dp/B007RIFKTY/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1401335184&sr=1-4
or
http://www.amazon.com/LGA1155-CrossFireX-Motherboard-Z77-EXTREME4/dp/B007KTY4A6/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1401335296&sr=1-2

Please reply if you need help or if you have another question

Tommynew · May 29, 2014

Im looking for something cheaper.
Something like fx6300 8530 maybe.
Is there a "big" difference between a i5650 and a 6300 in games like bf4?
Thank you.

Eduello · May 29, 2014

Tommynew :

Look at the picture I provided in my first post: The difference is over 20fps in minimum and average fps.

Tommynew · May 29, 2014

And if i finaly go to a 280x, 6300 is enough for that gpu?

logainofhades · May 29, 2014

What is your current motherboard? You might be better off going to Ebay and finding an i7 860/870/875/880. New mainboard often means new copy of Windows as well. Gen 1 i7's are still plenty capable and would be better than FX. Going from one dead platform to another makes little sense.

Tommynew · May 29, 2014

ACER fih57.
Is a generic motherborad from OEM acer systems xd

Tommynew · May 29, 2014

Wich is the intel part for a fx8320.
Then i should go for a lg1150 before am+?
Sorry i dont know how i can edit the previous post.

CodenameHaswell · May 29, 2014

I have an i5 650 on my old rig and it could run Battlefield 3 at 45 FPS on High with a GT 640 (crap card, and used a small monitor, I know, it's why I upgraded)

logainofhades · May 29, 2014

Tommynew :

Ouch, yea that won't help you any. So you will be needing case, CPU, Motherboard, and windows then. I would not go FX though. Go with an i3 4150 and an H97 pro4 at minimum, or save up for an i5. At least then you have an upgrade path. AM3+ is essentially dead.

Tommynew · May 29, 2014

So i34150 is better than fx6300.
What about an intel option for a 8320?
There is no option between i3 4150 and a i5 4570?

logainofhades · May 29, 2014

What is budget for CPU and Motherboard? The FX 6300 needs to be well overclocked to beat a Haswell i3. The lack of any upgrade path is another downside to FX now that AMD has no plans for another AM3+ CPU. Current chips are as good as you are going to get. At least with an H97 or Z97 board you have an upgrade path to Broadwell.

Tommynew · May 29, 2014

Around 150-200 i think.
I want something that can handle with my gpu and still works when i upgrade the gpu, asap, to a 280x.

logainofhades · May 29, 2014

200 for both is going to put you in i3 and H97. Haswell i3 will perform much better than your current one.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($117.00 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($89.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $206.98
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-29 12:59 EDT-0400)

Tommynew · May 29, 2014

I meant euros so 250 dolar max.
Can you link me another similar motherboard, i cant find that model in the shop where i buy, please.
Thank you.

logainofhades · May 29, 2014

PCpartpicker seems to be having issues right now. Pretty much any H97 or Z97 board will do, as long as it has the features you are looking for. Brand wise, I would stick with Gigabyte, Asrock, or Asus. MSI is ok too, if that is all you are able to find. You have to go with H97 or Z97 for future broadwell support.

Tommynew · May 29, 2014

K any 97 will do.
Will be any improvement with that cpu (i3) in the 7850?

logainofhades · May 29, 2014

Here is a comparison between your chip and the i3 4330, which runs the same clock speed as the 4150. (The 4150 is a Haswell refresh chip) Really the best I could find for comparison. The cinebench benchmarks are probably the most relevant to your question. PC partpicker still hating me today. It has been hit an miss for a couple hours or so now. I might be able to squeeze an i5 4440 into the build, if the site would just work for me....

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/144?vs=1192

Tommynew · May 29, 2014

And then with the 280x the i3 will be enough cpu?

nVFan · May 29, 2014

FIABLASTA · May 29, 2014

Don't get the i3. it can only do 2 physical threads. But a 6300 or a 8350 can do six or an eight physical threads. Battlefield 4 will use all those cores to a greater potential than it could ever use the i3. Hope this helps!

logainofhades · May 30, 2014

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor (€151.90 @ Caseking)
Motherboard: Asus H81M-A Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (€50.49 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €202.39
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-30 15:55 CEST+0200)

Tommynew · May 30, 2014

After all.
The original question.
Shouild i upgrade the cpu before going to a 280x or is not worth it?
Shoild i go to 280x with my current cpu?

logainofhades · May 30, 2014

I would upgrade the CPU first. The 7850 isn't a horrible card by any means. Your current CPU would bottleneck a 280x.

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