I need a motherboard for 180$ Best if its available on amazon
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hanser30
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I found these in amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-P8Z77-V-LX-Intel-Motherboard/dp/B007MKGF82/ref=sr_1_19?ie=UTF8&qid=1401399416&sr=8-19
http://www.amazon.com/LGA1155-CrossFireX-Motherboard-Z77-EXTREME6/dp/B007KTY4QU/ref=sr_1_39?ie=UTF8&qid=1401399483&sr=8-39
http://www.amazon.com/LGA1155-CrossFireX-Motherboard-Z77-EXTREME4/dp/B007KTY4A6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1401399623&sr=8-1
http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-P8Z77-V-LX-Intel-Motherboard/dp/B007MKGF82/ref=sr_1_19?ie=UTF8&qid=1401399416&sr=8-19
http://www.amazon.com/LGA1155-CrossFireX-Motherboard-Z77-EXTREME6/dp/B007KTY4QU/ref=sr_1_39?ie=UTF8&qid=1401399483&sr=8-39
http://www.amazon.com/LGA1155-CrossFireX-Motherboard-Z77-EXTREME4/dp/B007KTY4A6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1401399623&sr=8-1
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I would stay away from ASRock Z77 Extreme 4, it has some ancient, cheap, unreliable dpak mosfets, subpar vrm and components. Extreme6 is tad better. I'd go with Asus here. Or for a better quality Gigabyte z77x-ud3h or MSI z77a gd65, if you can find.
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So in your opinion, one should only look at individual components and give no thought whatsoever as to the overall design, How the components are implemented, or the manufacturers QC....The Extreme 4 is and has been both the best selling and highest rated Z77 mobo by enthusiasts, gamers, OCers, etc...Sorry but using 'higher' quality components really doesn't mean squat if the overall mobo is designed/implemented poorly and QC is poor....I myself don't want a mobo that doesn't OC well or has a port here or there fail, or arrive DOA to sit on shelf somewhere and tell people, "yeah, it's dead, but it has the best Caps, VRM, etc that you can get on a mobo"....I prefer a well designed mobo that performs and lasts.
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I'm talking with the scientific facts here. DPAK mosfets are unreliable. That's why it's out of industry years ago. None of the electronic manufacturers are using them anymore (even most of the chinese noname electronic companies) But ASRock managed to use them even in their mid-range boards somehow until today. It seems like they start following the industrial facts now thoughi they haven't used dpaks on 9 series boards. Glad they haven't hired you as an engineer. 
But I agree you about QC, support, good design etc... But before buying a product, a normal person first look at the "quality" of the components. Then comes the QC and support. But sadly ASRock Z77 Extreme 4 fails to pass the first test here. If someone wants to pay money for inferior products or has a weird taste of getting robbed it's another story and I won't argue personal tastes.
But using dpak mosfets, making deceptive marketing about "gold" capacitors (which are actually some generic 2k solid caps painted yellow) and promoting hybrid/analog controllers as digital vrm is just unaccaptable. Defending these stuff is even more unaccaptable.
They took their lesson though. Now at least they upped the quality of mosfets and capacitors. Which proves me right about their previous quality. But they still doing some deceptive marketing.
Glad we have many options on the shelves today and people are not stuck with some bad quality stuff.
But I agree you about QC, support, good design etc... But before buying a product, a normal person first look at the "quality" of the components. Then comes the QC and support. But sadly ASRock Z77 Extreme 4 fails to pass the first test here. If someone wants to pay money for inferior products or has a weird taste of getting robbed it's another story and I won't argue personal tastes.
But using dpak mosfets, making deceptive marketing about "gold" capacitors (which are actually some generic 2k solid caps painted yellow) and promoting hybrid/analog controllers as digital vrm is just unaccaptable. Defending these stuff is even more unaccaptable.
They took their lesson though. Now at least they upped the quality of mosfets and capacitors. Which proves me right about their previous quality. But they still doing some deceptive marketing.
Glad we have many options on the shelves today and people are not stuck with some bad quality stuff.
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feelingtheblanks :
I'm talking with the scientific facts here. DPAK mosfets are unreliable. That's why it's out of industry years ago. None of the electronic manufacturers are using them anymore (even most of the chinese noname electronic companies) But ASRock managed to use them even in their mid-range boards somehow until today. It seems like they start following the industrial facts now thoughi they haven't used dpaks on 9 series boards. Glad they haven't hired you as an engineer.
But I agree you about QC, support, good design etc... But before buying a product, a normal person first look at the "quality" of the components. Then comes the QC and support. But sadly ASRock Z77 Extreme 4 fails to pass the first test here. If someone wants to pay money for inferior products or has a weird taste of getting robbed it's another story and I won't argue personal tastes.
But using dpak mosfets, making deceptive marketing about "gold" capacitors (which are actually some generic 2k solid caps painted yellow) and promoting hybrid/analog controllers as digital vrm is just unaccaptable. Defending these stuff is even more unaccaptable.
They took their lesson though. Now at least they upped the quality of mosfets and capacitors. Which proves me right about their previous quality. But they still doing some deceptive marketing.
Glad we have many options on the shelves today and people are not stuck with some bad quality stuff.
But I agree you about QC, support, good design etc... But before buying a product, a normal person first look at the "quality" of the components. Then comes the QC and support. But sadly ASRock Z77 Extreme 4 fails to pass the first test here. If someone wants to pay money for inferior products or has a weird taste of getting robbed it's another story and I won't argue personal tastes.
But using dpak mosfets, making deceptive marketing about "gold" capacitors (which are actually some generic 2k solid caps painted yellow) and promoting hybrid/analog controllers as digital vrm is just unaccaptable. Defending these stuff is even more unaccaptable.
They took their lesson though. Now at least they upped the quality of mosfets and capacitors. Which proves me right about their previous quality. But they still doing some deceptive marketing.
Glad we have many options on the shelves today and people are not stuck with some bad quality stuff.
This is why I always go for Asus Mobos, they are good quality and have a great performance.
But yes, as my friend "feelingtheblanks" said, and as I allways say too; its better to look for reliability and product quality before looking at the performance and features.
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To be honest, you can drive yourself crazy going through individual components going into a mobo, I used to look, years and years ago, and oft times mobos with the best stuff you could get on them were crap....Same can be said of some some of these power phase designs, it all sounds good on paper 16 phase, 20 phase, 24 phase.....it's all pretty much wortheless - AGAIN - unless it's implemented well, and often times it's not...the Extreme 4 is a 8+4, and yet OCs extremely well and runs cool, I've done a ton of builds on the mobo over the last 2+ years, recommended it to literally hundreds of people who've bought and built on it, with no complaints, nothing about them blowing up/melting down..of course I've seen people hear and elsewhere also have problems with them, but that's to be expected, I see far more problems with many other mobos, and since this is a very high selling mobo, I would expect to see even more problems than I have
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