Amd fx 6300 unsure whether to upgrade

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Hey everybody, a little while ago I made the choice to build a budget gaming system, this meant amd was the cpu/mobo I was to go with, since then I've had people tell me that games will run better on an intel based system , I've now come into some money and figure pc needs some new stuff

Would it be worth me upgrading to an intel i5 or I7

Or should I invest the money into a couple of strong graphics cards and a water cooling block and over lock the cpu

Need help, everyone saying such bad things about the fx 6300, has Made me question it
 
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It's probably not worth it right now unless you play a lot of dual or tri core optimized games. (example, Skyrim, Dark Souls 1, Dragon Age Origins).

I mean, if you were just starting out I'd definitely recommend an i5 over any FX processor. I'd even recommend an i3 in most cases. But since you already have the FX-6300, I don't think the price is worth the switch.

I'd recommend one strong graphics card rather than 2. Crossfire or SLI have always had stability issues in some games, and you never quite get as much performance as 2 cards would imply. The only way SLI or Crossfire is really a good decision is if you already have a graphics card from before, and are simply adding an identical one later. That's the only way the cost is worth...
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the Fx-6300 is one of the best price/performance CPUs on the market and it's definitely one of the BEST contenders for its price-range.
SOME games will run better on intel based systems, some will run better on AMD based systems.

What're your current specs? (graphics card, motherboard name, Power supply, current CPU cooler) and what's your current budget?
 
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It's probably not worth it right now unless you play a lot of dual or tri core optimized games. (example, Skyrim, Dark Souls 1, Dragon Age Origins).

I mean, if you were just starting out I'd definitely recommend an i5 over any FX processor. I'd even recommend an i3 in most cases. But since you already have the FX-6300, I don't think the price is worth the switch.

I'd recommend one strong graphics card rather than 2. Crossfire or SLI have always had stability issues in some games, and you never quite get as much performance as 2 cards would imply. The only way SLI or Crossfire is really a good decision is if you already have a graphics card from before, and are simply adding an identical one later. That's the only way the cost is worth the tradeoffs imo, as you're only really paying for 1 card then instead of 2 at once.
 
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Thanks for the replies

My setup at the minute is

Fx 6300 stock cooled
16gb ddr3 1333mhz
NVIDIA GeForce gt 450 1gb (I know it's not good but I was on a budget and was given this)
And a cheap 30 pounds gigabyte mobo

Again I was on a budget

Xfx core series 450w psu

1tb Sata II


If at all possible I would prefer to tweak and upgrade my current system eater than getting a new one, but if there will e tht much of a difference I don't mind , I make a decent amount so have enough to upgrade 200 pounds a week

Thank you
 
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Yeah, you're going to want to upgrade your Power Supply and get a new Graphics card. It'd probably be better to invest in those than get a new CPU. If you're going for GTX 700 series or equivalent you'll want to get 600w+.
 
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Do you have the name of your motherboard? It'd be best if we know what it is so we can suggest a suitable upgrade, if necessary.

Other than this, upgrading your PSU to a 80+ Bronze 550W power supply from either SeaSonic of XFX and buying an upgrade for your GPU (this will give you the biggest performance increase). I'd go for a GTX 770.
 
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http://www.cclonline.com/product/88626/GA-78LMT-USB3/Motherboards/Gigabyte-GA-78LMT-USB3-Motherboard-Phenom-II-AMD-Athlon-II-Socket-AM3-AMD-760G-Micro-ATX-RAID-Gigabit-Ethernet-rev-4-1-/MBD0412/

I know its not the best, but I was on an extreme budget

so you saying to keep the 6300 and get a 770?

is a psu replacement absolutely neccessary?
 
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A PSU replacement would be essential for a 770, and highly recommended for a 760.
However, if you got a GTX 750 TI, that'd still be a big upgrade in graphics and performance and it wouldn't require a new power supply.

 
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I'm coming into a decent amount of spare money on monday, was just looking around at intel stuff, and can get a motherboard and i5 4th gen 4670k for about 250, looking at a 750w psu http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/fd-psu-in2b-750w.html

Can anyone tell me if Fractal Design PSU's are any good

And i'm looking at an Nvidia 770 GTX (Watchdogs voucher free ... score)

So my new question is

Core i5 4670k
16gb DDR3
Nvidia Geforce 2gb 770 GTX
1tb Sata HDD
Fractal Design 750w PSU

Motherboard GIGABYTE GA-Z97X-SLI Intel Z97 (Socket 1150) Motherboard
Will the psu handle this?

And will this setup perform well in comparison to my six core (the six core components wont go to waste, going to knock together a little media/gaming pc for the living room, so having max fps wont bother me and It will just be something to watch/play with a pad whilst im downstairs

I was looking at the i7 4770k but by all accounts i wouldn't see an improvement from the i5 if im just gaming ...

Just need help finalising this system
 
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If you can find an XFX/SeaSonic 650W power supply for the same/cheaper price range that'd be better, but Fractal Design PSUs are also great.

If you plan on going for an over-clockable CPU then you might as well buy a Aftermarket heatsink, so you can get the most performance out of it. I'd buy the Hyper 212 EVO. It's a great cooler for its price, But make sure your case can fit heat sinks up to and over 160mm.

The build you've put in place would work, but you wouldn't necessarily need 16GB of RAM, unless you plan on doing photo editing, rendering, etc and it WILL perform much better than the FX-6300, the difference will be increased more so if you've got it over-clocked.

If you have a budget in mind and are unsure at what would be best for your budget, please tell us what you need and how much money you have and we can sum up the ideal build!

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Hyper 212 EVO : http://www.dabs.com/products/coolermaster-hyper-212-evo---4-heatpipe--tower-cpu-cooler-8K32.html?q=Cooler%20master%20hyper%20212&src=16
i5-4670K vs FX-6300 : http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/61451-intel-haswell-i7-4770k-i5-4670k-review-19.html
 
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my budget is at most 650 (got a holiday to pay for, but seen as this is my first pay cheque from work, I figure, treat myself before paying off a holiday that can wait to be paid off)

I want the pc to game on ultra/high with no problems
an intel build (had fx 6300 bi----ig mistake)
I do some music rendering, and I'm interested in doing some lets play stuff
I play a lot of emulators (Don't worry, I own everything I emulate, I just like playing ps2 games with crisp graphics, looks awful with the console on the hdtv xD)

It's hard to sum up what I want from the pc, but I just want the best I can get, for the price I can pay
along with some space to upgrade (extra ports for gpu's etc)

Sorry about the vagueness, but it's hard to word, but I have friends with the old I7's who claim it still performs like a champ, and would reccomend a new gen i7 to me, and also slapped me for buying the fx 6300
 
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Well, the FX-6300 isn't bad. It's good for multitasking. But it also doesn't really hold up too Intel CPUs around the same price.
 
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Ive been questioning it all day, would it be worth keeping the fx, I mean I've never had a decent grpahics card in it, would it make a huge difference, should I keep this cpu/mobo, overclock it, and get a new gpu and psu?

This is the motherboard i've got to work with, and if at all possible i dont want to have to replace it, if im staying with amd, then im not spending more than I have to, would I be able to get a half decent overclock out of it, and if i was to get a new gpu, would i see far better results?
 
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Your FX-6300 isn't responsible for your low performance. Right now your bottleneck is 100% your graphics card, so replacing it with a GTX 760 or GTX 770 would get a big increase in performance.
 
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