gtx 760 with fx 8350 or gtx 770 with fx 6300
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xStavrosCy
May 31, 2014 8:59:50 PM
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I think better to go with i5 and GTX-760
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($184.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus B85-PLUS ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($66.67 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB DirectCU II Video Card ($239.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $491.64
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-01 00:11 EDT-0400)
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($184.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus B85-PLUS ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($66.67 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB DirectCU II Video Card ($239.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $491.64
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-01 00:11 EDT-0400)
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI H97M-G43 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($88.99 @ Mac Mall)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($319.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $583.97
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-01 00:13 EDT-0400)
CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI H97M-G43 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($88.99 @ Mac Mall)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($319.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $583.97
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-01 00:13 EDT-0400)
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mikeblaze76
May 31, 2014 9:13:27 PM
If you look at the Watch Dogs article, the FX-8350 kept up nicely with the i5. Most future games that also have a console version available are going to be heavily threaded and be able to take advantage of the additional TRUE threads that AMD has to offer. When the consoles have 8 cores clocked at a lowly 1.6 Ghz, you have no choice but to be threaded. Take Watch Dogs as a sign of the future. The FX can also be easily overclocked for a boost if a title really challenges it.
Lastly, if you want to spend 760 gtx money and get the best performance, get the R9 280 instead. Battlefield, Thief, Star Citizen, and many other future games will support Mantle and you will be able to get the best performance out of your CPU-GPU combo. Later you can add another R9 280 if you choose to. At 1080p, there aren't too many games that can make that card stumble with all the eyecandy turned up.
Article:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/watch-dogs-pc-perfo...
Lastly, if you want to spend 760 gtx money and get the best performance, get the R9 280 instead. Battlefield, Thief, Star Citizen, and many other future games will support Mantle and you will be able to get the best performance out of your CPU-GPU combo. Later you can add another R9 280 if you choose to. At 1080p, there aren't too many games that can make that card stumble with all the eyecandy turned up.
Article:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/watch-dogs-pc-perfo...
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mikeblaze76
May 31, 2014 9:55:42 PM
xStavrosCy
May 31, 2014 10:02:08 PM
Toms latest Watch Dogs report and others show the FX-8350 BEATING many i5 processors and hanging with all but the 6 core i7 chips for a fraction of the cost. With regard to the PCI-E 2.0 vs 3.0 discussion, there isn't a single GPU on the market that can max out at 16x PCI-E 2.0 slot. A Titan can't max out a 8x PCI-E 2.0 slot.
It is all just a bunch of snobby Intel crap. The same people that buy iPhones and $2000 macbooks. A fool and his money are soon parted.
It is all just a bunch of snobby Intel crap. The same people that buy iPhones and $2000 macbooks. A fool and his money are soon parted.
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Fx 6300 and gtx 770, it'll max most games @1080p, which the 760 won't. Just do 2 things, OC the CPU (it oc's like a champ) and get a good 990fx mobo, so in the future you can upgrade the CPU to the 8350. It's a cheaper option than upgrading the 760 to a 770. Also get a good CPU cooler, you'll need it to OC.
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xStavrosCy
June 1, 2014 1:09:41 AM
@Wurkfur
Intel H97 and Z97 chipsets are brand new, while the last AMD 990FX Chipset compatible CPU is released 2013, the FX-9 series. And I haven't heard any more news about a new AMD 990FX-compatible CPU.
P.S. Now we know you're an AMD fanboy!
@xStavrosCy
If you have the money, Corsair 230T looks epic and is awesome. I generally recommend Corsair cases because they are huge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfvxAgDyDWQ
Intel H97 and Z97 chipsets are brand new, while the last AMD 990FX Chipset compatible CPU is released 2013, the FX-9 series. And I haven't heard any more news about a new AMD 990FX-compatible CPU.
P.S. Now we know you're an AMD fanboy!
@xStavrosCy
If you have the money, Corsair 230T looks epic and is awesome. I generally recommend Corsair cases because they are huge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfvxAgDyDWQ
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This is true, but you probably won't hear anything until they can start getting stuff fabbed smaller than the current 0.032 micron process.
AMD never had the luxury of utilizing antitrust tactics to amass billions in capital that helped advance their fab process and architecture advancements.
An overclocked FX-8320 or stock FX-8350 won't feel inadequate in any modern game.
AMD never had the luxury of utilizing antitrust tactics to amass billions in capital that helped advance their fab process and architecture advancements.
An overclocked FX-8320 or stock FX-8350 won't feel inadequate in any modern game.
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An FX-8320 can easily overclock to the levels of a FX-9590 with proper cooling. That chip runs with the 4770k in most benchmarks.
What does it say when a two year old AMD chip hangs with a new Intel chip?
Intel is sitting on their laurels because there is no competition in the higher end of the spectrum. Look back to the late 90's and we went from 200 Mhz to 1 Ghz in about a year and a half because healthy competition drove innovation. Because Intel was behind, they then used their name to push manufacturers like Dell and Toshiba to exclusively use a single line of CPU's for fear of loosing volume discounts. The loss in net revenue was enough to slow AMD's progress so that Intel could advance. The millions in fines that Intel had to pay AMD was a drop in the bucket compared to the net loss in R&D.
99% of the public could use the AMD chips available today in order to meet their needs and not have to support a corporation convicted multiple times of breaking local and international law to stay ahead.
What does it say when a two year old AMD chip hangs with a new Intel chip?
Intel is sitting on their laurels because there is no competition in the higher end of the spectrum. Look back to the late 90's and we went from 200 Mhz to 1 Ghz in about a year and a half because healthy competition drove innovation. Because Intel was behind, they then used their name to push manufacturers like Dell and Toshiba to exclusively use a single line of CPU's for fear of loosing volume discounts. The loss in net revenue was enough to slow AMD's progress so that Intel could advance. The millions in fines that Intel had to pay AMD was a drop in the bucket compared to the net loss in R&D.
99% of the public could use the AMD chips available today in order to meet their needs and not have to support a corporation convicted multiple times of breaking local and international law to stay ahead.
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Maybe... But you're wrong. The chipset and socket are older, but if there's newer CPUs coming out for the chipset and socket, then it's worth buying. (e.g. Intel X79, Intel C60x, LGA2011)
But the AMD AMx (excluding AM1, AMD XXXX) and AMD 6x0, 7xx, 8xx, and 9x0, doesn't get anymore future CPUs to the chipset.
But the AMD AMx (excluding AM1, AMD XXXX) and AMD 6x0, 7xx, 8xx, and 9x0, doesn't get anymore future CPUs to the chipset.
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Says who? Show me a single article saying that AMD is done with the AM3+ platform.
Come back and admit you were wrong after you aren't able to find anything because AMD has not made a statement.
You're continuing to spout unsubstantiated speculative BS.
The top of the line FX pulls 220 watts. You won't see another FX on the current process. As soon as a die shrink becomes available from whatever fab AMD selects, you may hear about another line of chips. Time will tell, but to spout that a platform is dead when nothing has ever been confirmed is total crap and a disservice to the community.
Come back and admit you were wrong after you aren't able to find anything because AMD has not made a statement.
You're continuing to spout unsubstantiated speculative BS.
The top of the line FX pulls 220 watts. You won't see another FX on the current process. As soon as a die shrink becomes available from whatever fab AMD selects, you may hear about another line of chips. Time will tell, but to spout that a platform is dead when nothing has ever been confirmed is total crap and a disservice to the community.
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XDXDXD Wurkfur, admit that you're a fanboy. And yes, I heard of AMD A10-7850K on FM socket.
http://www.techpowerup.com/195355/vishera-end-of-the-li...
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?2871...
AMD will come out with something new, but not PURE CPUs. It's APUs, and I reserve those for builds $450 or lower.
http://www.techpowerup.com/195355/vishera-end-of-the-li...
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?2871...
AMD will come out with something new, but not PURE CPUs. It's APUs, and I reserve those for builds $450 or lower.
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mikeblaze76
June 2, 2014 7:38:22 PM
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Sigh.... You STILL don't get my point. Is there an FX announced? An Athlon perhaps? Or even the Phenom. NO.
I recommend (and notice I say recommend) Intel because THE NEXT GEN INTEL CPU (Broadwell) WILL USE THE 9-SERIES CHIPSET. It's called upgradeability, and I'm talking 2015 and the next batch of unlocked Intel CPUs (Devil's Canyon).
Unless AMD surprises us by announcing a AM3+ CPU, there's no further upgrades to the AM2/3, and it's pretty much left into the dust.
I personally like AMD because of their budget side, but I don't go around preaching a 2-year old CPU, socket, and chipset.
Sorry if I offended you, though.
I recommend (and notice I say recommend) Intel because THE NEXT GEN INTEL CPU (Broadwell) WILL USE THE 9-SERIES CHIPSET. It's called upgradeability, and I'm talking 2015 and the next batch of unlocked Intel CPUs (Devil's Canyon).
Unless AMD surprises us by announcing a AM3+ CPU, there's no further upgrades to the AM2/3, and it's pretty much left into the dust.
I personally like AMD because of their budget side, but I don't go around preaching a 2-year old CPU, socket, and chipset.
Sorry if I offended you, though.
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A $130 FX-8320 overclocked to 4.5 to 4.7 Ghz runs with and even beats a 4770k in many benchmarks. I will concede single threaded performance. The 4770k lists for $340.
For the price, I can buy the AMD system now, have $200 left over. TELL ME WHAT WOULD BE FASTER IN A GAME. An overclocked FX-8320 with a $30 Hyper 212 EVO or a 4770k with the stock cooler. The FX-8320 left me with $170 more for the graphics card. Which system do you think will be faster when I have an extra $170 to spend on a GPU?
I am not an AMD fanboy. I'm anti-Intel because their business practices have been despicable and you can and will not have any rebuttal for that argument. If Cyrix, VIA, or any other x86 company came out with a setup that rivaled Intel I would buy it in a heartbeat.
You still speculate that there will not be any more AM3 chips after all I have presented. You must be very dense. You are the fan boy Mr Intel.
For the price, I can buy the AMD system now, have $200 left over. TELL ME WHAT WOULD BE FASTER IN A GAME. An overclocked FX-8320 with a $30 Hyper 212 EVO or a 4770k with the stock cooler. The FX-8320 left me with $170 more for the graphics card. Which system do you think will be faster when I have an extra $170 to spend on a GPU?
I am not an AMD fanboy. I'm anti-Intel because their business practices have been despicable and you can and will not have any rebuttal for that argument. If Cyrix, VIA, or any other x86 company came out with a setup that rivaled Intel I would buy it in a heartbeat.
You still speculate that there will not be any more AM3 chips after all I have presented. You must be very dense. You are the fan boy Mr Intel.
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XDXDXD Check my build posts. The marketplace today has a solid place for the specific market. AMD APU builds below $500, and above that Intel dominated. I'm not fanboy, it's just that I realized boundaries. It's like you aren't having a $2K build with AMD, cause you can have a lot more. For $1K I'd go with a i5-4670K and GTX 770.
The reason for that is Intel made super clocked versions of Haswell i-series CPUs (Haswell Refresh), and will release better power saving CPU in the future (Broadwell).
But you made me admit, after researching, that i5-4670K is worse than a FX-8320 on cpubenchmark.net.
So for NOW, FX will be better, but in one year, if the OP uses Intel, he'll take advantage against the FX because Broadwell will have to keep face by better performance. And by then he'll have to OC the FX to keep up with the performance he had when he bought the CPU.
P.S.: You're forgetting OC'ing.
P.P.S: At Tom's Hardware, we look at the future instead of currently, cause builds last and not run out too soon.
The reason for that is Intel made super clocked versions of Haswell i-series CPUs (Haswell Refresh), and will release better power saving CPU in the future (Broadwell).
But you made me admit, after researching, that i5-4670K is worse than a FX-8320 on cpubenchmark.net.
So for NOW, FX will be better, but in one year, if the OP uses Intel, he'll take advantage against the FX because Broadwell will have to keep face by better performance. And by then he'll have to OC the FX to keep up with the performance he had when he bought the CPU.
P.S.: You're forgetting OC'ing.
P.P.S: At Tom's Hardware, we look at the future instead of currently, cause builds last and not run out too soon.
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Xbox One and PS4 are running 8 core AMD APU's. If you don't think the landscape may shift, you are missing out. They took a gamble on going more cores instead of trying to keep up on IPC and many of the newer highly threaded games are taking advantage of this. Why would a car driving by and an NPC in a game like Watch Dogs or GTA V need to be on the same thread. Games are getting more threaded and so is productivity software.
The funny part is you keep harping on CPU performance when today's high end FX CPU's aren't a bottleneck and you have stuff like Mantle and Direct X 12 that are supposed to prevent most of it anyways. Usually most people have a GPU bottlenecks.
If the average Joe buys an AMD chip and uses the savings to get a better GPU, he'll be able to turn up the quality settings or run higher resolutions.
Would a true gamer have a good experience with an i7 4960x and a GeForce 750 ti, or should he have pulled back on the CPU and spent more on the GPU? The same can be said with lower level chips in relation to the Intel and AMD options.
Lastly, A FX-8320 can match a FX-9590 with a $30 cooler and a little know how. Look at the benchmarks for the FX-9590 and you will be hard pressed to find a single Intel chip near that price point that can run with it overclocked or otherwise.
The funny part is you keep harping on CPU performance when today's high end FX CPU's aren't a bottleneck and you have stuff like Mantle and Direct X 12 that are supposed to prevent most of it anyways. Usually most people have a GPU bottlenecks.
If the average Joe buys an AMD chip and uses the savings to get a better GPU, he'll be able to turn up the quality settings or run higher resolutions.
Would a true gamer have a good experience with an i7 4960x and a GeForce 750 ti, or should he have pulled back on the CPU and spent more on the GPU? The same can be said with lower level chips in relation to the Intel and AMD options.
Lastly, A FX-8320 can match a FX-9590 with a $30 cooler and a little know how. Look at the benchmarks for the FX-9590 and you will be hard pressed to find a single Intel chip near that price point that can run with it overclocked or otherwise.
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