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June 3, 2014 4:26:15 PM

Hello,

I want to build a high end rig for the release of the Oculus Rift, it will probably come out end of 2014 or early 2015. Aside from the Rift i also simply want a great high end PC to run the latest games on max.

When it comes to hardware i am a complete beginner. All i can do is search for what the pro's recommend. I am trying hard to understand the technical side but it's overwhelming. That's why i have come here to ask for advice on parts.

Budget? 1200 euro/1600 dollar/970 pound, willing to exceed that if it really benefits me a lot
When will i buy this rig? Once i am sure of my choices i'll buy it.
What will i use this rig for? Main priority is gaming/Oculus Rift gaming. I don't do overclocking, editing or photoshop.Aside from gaming of course i browse the web, watch videos and that kind of thing.
Monitor? No monitor needed
OS? No
Parts preference? No
SLI or Crossfire? No
Monitor resolution? 1920x1080
Why am i upgrading? I want a rig that can handle the newest games on high to max quality at about 60 FPS. I can also do with a little less quality to get FPS. I want the rig to be great for the release of the Oculus Rift end of 2014, early 2015. No spec requirement available yet but it is said that for a comfortable experience you need 60FPS. Aside from the Rift, i just want a great PC that can run the latest games on high/max atleast for a year or two, but i am okay with medium/high after that.

Some of the things i desire most of my new PC:
-Max or high graphics on latest games
-Oculus Rift games on high/max quality with "enough" FPS to give presence this means the latest games at 60+ FPS.
-A rig that can be upgraded to extend its lifespan.
-A decent processor suitable for games like ARMA 3.
-Gaming is my main priority, i don't do editing or overclocking.

This is a build suggested to me by someone, to me it looks good. Although i am not sure if the power supply is sufficient. What do you guys think of this build? Can you recommend any changes?

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54670k
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-r...
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaz87...
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-driv...
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 290 4GB DirectCU II Video Card
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-r9290dc2oc...
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/fractal-design-case-fdcade...
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply
SeaSonic G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply

This build will cost me 1020 euro / 1389 dollar / 829.77 pound. My budget is about 1200 euro but if its smarter to pay a little more to "futureproof" my PC a little longer, i might exceed that amount.

I already have: a Optical Drive, a Western Digital Green, 500 GB harddisk and 2 x Corsair 4 GB DDR3-1333.

My old PC, anything else salvageable?

Video Card: AMD Sapphire Radeon HD 6670 1GB memory
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-D3
Processor: AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 960T 30000 MHZ 4 Cores
Power Supply: Seasonic "S12 II Bronze" 520W
RAM: 2 x Corsair 4GB DDR3 (CMV4GX3M1A1333C9)
Harddisk: Western Digital Caviar Green 500GB
Case: Antec Two Hundred

Thank you for reading this, and for your help!
June 3, 2014 5:39:55 PM

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DNhsmG
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DNhsmG/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DNhsmG/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($249.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($59.99 @ Micro Center)
Motherboard: MSI Z97-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($82.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.43 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($669.99 @ Micro Center)
Case: Corsair C70 Military Green (Green) ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($87.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1550.33
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-03 20:38 EDT-0400)

This is the reference price in the US, let me know if these are available in Netherlands or not
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June 3, 2014 6:01:24 PM

IHaveDaBestPC said:
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DNhsmG
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DNhsmG/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DNhsmG/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($249.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($59.99 @ Micro Center)
Motherboard: MSI Z97-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($82.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.43 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($669.99 @ Micro Center)
Case: Corsair C70 Military Green (Green) ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($87.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1550.33
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-03 20:38 EDT-0400)

This is the reference price in the US, let me know if these are available in Netherlands or not

Why would you need water cooling for a xeon?
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June 3, 2014 6:26:31 PM

IHaveDaBestPC said:
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DNhsmG
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DNhsmG/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DNhsmG/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($249.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($59.99 @ Micro Center)
Motherboard: MSI Z97-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($82.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.43 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($669.99 @ Micro Center)
Case: Corsair C70 Military Green (Green) ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($87.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1550.33
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-03 20:38 EDT-0400)

This is the reference price in the US, let me know if these are available in Netherlands or not


You wouldn't need an aftermarket cpu cooler for a xeon. Also his old RAM is salvageable from his old computer and also running ram in single channel mode loses about 10% compared with dual channel.

For a 1080p monitor, a 780ti can be an overkill and a r9 290x might be better for price and you could probably put some of that money to a 4770k so you can over clock your cpu if so desired and get a h100i.
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June 3, 2014 6:34:39 PM

IHaveDaBestPC said:
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DNhsmG
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DNhsmG/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DNhsmG/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($249.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($59.99 @ Micro Center)
Motherboard: MSI Z97-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($82.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.43 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($669.99 @ Micro Center)
Case: Corsair C70 Military Green (Green) ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($87.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1550.33
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-03 20:38 EDT-0400)

This is the reference price in the US, let me know if these are available in Netherlands or not


If you want advice on a rig, start a new thread, don't hijack an existing one.

For $1600 this is what I would suggest (no Xeon as Xeons can't be overclocked):

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($233.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U9B SE2 37.9 CFM CPU Cooler ($48.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 EXTREME4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($152.13 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M550 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($156.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.44 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Superclocked ACX Video Card ($479.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Titanium Grey) ATX Mid Tower Case ($100.00 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($94.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($23.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1515.48
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-03 21:34 EDT-0400)
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June 4, 2014 4:34:08 AM

IHaveDaBestPC: They are available but expensive, 1818 dollar in total.

RyanReynolds: Do you think that a I7-4770k is worth it compared to a I5-4670K? I have read that it hardly matters.

Pigsinspace72: Do you also think that I7-4770K is much better? If it is i am willing to pay the price.

G-unit1111: That rig comes down exactly to 1600 dollar in my country. Minus the OS, Optical Drive and RAM. I guess hardware is expensive here.

For a GPU i have a few choices:
ASUS R9290-DC2OC-4GD5
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-r9290dc2oc...
EVGA GeForce GTX 780 SC w/ ACX Cooler
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-03gp42784k...
MSI GTX 780Ti Gaming 3G
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-gtx780tigam...
Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB DirectCU II
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-gtx770dc2o...

For a CPU i have three choices:

Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646e31230v3
Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54670k
Intel Core i7-4770K
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i74770k

For a Motherboard i have 3 choices:

ASRock Z97 Extreme4, socket 1150
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-z97extr...
Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaz87...
MSI Z97-G45 Gaming
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-z97g45gami...

How do i decide between motherboards?
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June 4, 2014 9:02:41 AM


Decemius said:
IHaveDaBestPC: They are available but expensive, 1818 dollar in total.

RyanReynolds: Do you think that a I7-4770k is worth it compared to a I5-4670K? I have read that it hardly matters.

Pigsinspace72: Do you also think that I7-4770K is much better? If it is i am willing to pay the price.

G-unit1111: That rig comes down exactly to 1600 dollar in my country. Minus the OS, Optical Drive and RAM. I guess hardware is expensive here.

For a GPU i have a few choices:
ASUS R9290-DC2OC-4GD5
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-r9290dc2oc...
EVGA GeForce GTX 780 SC w/ ACX Cooler
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-03gp42784k...
MSI GTX 780Ti Gaming 3G
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-gtx780tigam...
Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB DirectCU II
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-gtx770dc2o...

For a CPU i have three choices:

Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646e31230v3
Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54670k
Intel Core i7-4770K
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i74770k

For a Motherboard i have 3 choices:

ASRock Z97 Extreme4, socket 1150
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-z97extr...
Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaz87...
MSI Z97-G45 Gaming
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-z97g45gami...

How do i decide between motherboards?


Change the GPU to a GTX780 will cut down quite a bit of money
And about the CPU, Xeon or i5 4560K is your choice whether you want to OC or not. You shouln't go for i7 4770K now, sure it has higher performance but hardly any games use its full power
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June 4, 2014 11:58:29 AM

Decemius said:
G-unit1111: That rig comes down exactly to 1600 dollar in my country. Minus the OS, Optical Drive and RAM. I guess hardware is expensive here.


Not necessarily. What country are you in? If you post that it will help to suggest parts. If you don't know one you can find one on this list: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-1643019/guide-inte...
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June 4, 2014 12:55:34 PM

Amusing how literally everyone has ignored the fact that he said he isn't overclocking. To be fair, he only mentioned it twice...
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June 4, 2014 1:18:59 PM

Graphiicz said:
Amusing how literally everyone has ignored the fact that he said he isn't overclocking. To be fair, he only mentioned it twice...


True, but on that kind of a budget it'd be pointless not to. Even slapping a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo or Noctua U9B will provide a huge speed boost that a Xeon won't.
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June 4, 2014 1:26:23 PM

g-unit1111 said:
Graphiicz said:
Amusing how literally everyone has ignored the fact that he said he isn't overclocking. To be fair, he only mentioned it twice...


True, but on that kind of a budget it'd be pointless not to. Even slapping a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo or Noctua U9B will provide a huge speed boost that a Xeon won't.


You don't have to spend all the money. I mean, the guy doesn't want to overclock, so let's save him some money by getting like an i5-4460 and a H97 motherboard.
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June 4, 2014 2:07:36 PM

In my op i would go with a Xeon since next gen games are said to take advantage of hyperthreading and also since you'll be wanting to play heavily modded games like ARMA, and just get a hyper 212 evo for extra cooling. I would stick to the superclocked GTX 780 and not the Ti version, naturally you could also sell your old PC for a bit and salvage extra from that by adding more memory or getting an extra monitor, or some cool peripherals. also i would go with the Asrock Z97 Extreme 4 just because i've had very good experience with them :)  Japanese tech...
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June 5, 2014 12:43:18 PM

It's not that i don't wish to overclock, it's that i am inexperienced and don't want to mess up expensive hardware. In about two years though i would probably want to overclock. I guess i made a mistake in my starting post. This build is probably going to be final. Still deciding between Xeon and I-5 4670K though. I also wonder if a 750w power supply is enough for my Asus Radeon R9 290. I have read on various side you need a minimum of 750w. Should i get an ever higher watt power supply to be safe?

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/fHscRB

I am from the Netherlands, and i recently found Azerty. It's a great shop where i wish to buy my hardware. They also have a assembly service which is fantastic because i don't want my inexperienced hands on such expensive hardware.. Of course i would like to build it myself but the risks are too high. What is this H97 motherboard about?
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