R9 290X low fps in BF4. Is it a Bottleneck?
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Vikingscjs
June 3, 2014 6:02:56 PM
Just bought a sapphire R9 290x reference card and was super excited to use it, but i get very very low frames on all my games. For example, I hear about people with 290x's getting over 60 fpsaverage on BF4 Ultra Settings. I get a steady 20-35 fps. Pretty low right? When i looked at my GPU load and CPU load my GPU was at 25-30% and my CPU was at a constant 100%.
My cpu is an fx-4350.
My cpu is an fx-4350.
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Vikingscjs
June 3, 2014 6:30:08 PM
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upgrade to one of these two ideally http://pcpartpicker.com/part/amd-cpu-fd8320frhkbox or http://pcpartpicker.com/part/amd-cpu-fd8350frhkbox The Fx-8350 will be faster, but with a good cooler, you can often OC the FX-8320 to the same speeds, but regardless of which one you go with, have a good cooler for the CPU
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Vikingscjs
June 3, 2014 6:38:27 PM
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upgrade to one of these two ideally http://pcpartpicker.com/part/amd-cpu-fd8320frhkbox or http://pcpartpicker.com/part/amd-cpu-fd8350frhkbox The Fx-8350 will be faster, but with a good cooler, you can often OC the FX-8320 to the same speeds, but regardless of which one you go with, have a good cooler for the CPUok thanks, I have an H80-i water cooler so I think I am good for overclocking.
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jkteddy77
June 3, 2014 11:28:08 PM
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with a good water cooler like that, you should be able to do an excellent job OC'ing either CPUJust gonna throw it out there... I drop to 45fps in many maps on BF3 and BF4 with my 8350 and r9 290... doesn't handle ultra well
Mantle fixes it with BF4, but then again, I think mine is underperforming. I've tried everything though, can't fix it...
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Xtian1911
June 3, 2014 11:42:56 PM
jkteddy77
June 3, 2014 11:55:27 PM
Xtian1911 said:
its the gameOh yes, don't get the wrong idea OP, the cpu is great for about 95% of games. Only I have come across that play badly ( i mean under 60) are Arma, Battlefield, borderlands 2 (its not TOO bad), and many single threaded games (Garry's mod and modded Minecraft suffer low fps) an skyrim.
But if you play BF3 or BF4 a lot... think about switching to a 4670k or wait for the 4690k end of this month. MUCH faster in these games
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Xtian1911
June 4, 2014 2:02:22 AM
jkteddy77 said:
Xtian1911 said:
its the gameOh yes, don't get the wrong idea OP, the cpu is great for about 95% of games. Only I have come across that play badly ( i mean under 60) are Arma, Battlefield, borderlands 2 (its not TOO bad), and many single threaded games (Garry's mod and modded Minecraft suffer low fps) an skyrim.
But if you play BF3 or BF4 a lot... think about switching to a 4670k or wait for the 4690k end of this month. MUCH faster in these games
Got a 4670k @ 4.2 with an R9-270x made by saphire and still drop ro as low sa 43fps in HD
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its the gameOh yes, don't get the wrong idea OP, the cpu is great for about 95% of games. Only I have come across that play badly ( i mean under 60) are Arma, Battlefield, borderlands 2 (its not TOO bad), and many single threaded games (Garry's mod and modded Minecraft suffer low fps) an skyrim.
But if you play BF3 or BF4 a lot... think about switching to a 4670k or wait for the 4690k end of this month. MUCH faster in these games
Got a 4670k @ 4.2 with an R9-270x made by saphire and still drop ro as low sa 43fps in HD
That is the GPU
. The CPU is a beast, but while the 4th gen is a beast, the 3rd gen is a monstrous beast. Its cheaper/lower temps/higher OC --> will easily make up for the 7% performance boost the 4rd gen gives you compared to 3th gen ^^. -
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June 4, 2014 3:11:59 AM
Vikingscjs
June 4, 2014 3:44:33 AM
jkteddy77 said:
Xtian1911 said:
its the gameOh yes, don't get the wrong idea OP, the cpu is great for about 95% of games. Only I have come across that play badly ( i mean under 60) are Arma, Battlefield, borderlands 2 (its not TOO bad), and many single threaded games (Garry's mod and modded Minecraft suffer low fps) an skyrim.
But if you play BF3 or BF4 a lot... think about switching to a 4670k or wait for the 4690k end of this month. MUCH faster in these games
I feel like switching to an intel chip would be much more expensive than if I just stayed amd and switched to an fx 8350. If I switched to Intel, I would have to buy a new mobo plus the new cpu. Intel chips are also more expensive right?
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jkteddy77
June 4, 2014 3:16:10 PM
Vikingscjs said:
jkteddy77 said:
Xtian1911 said:
its the gameOh yes, don't get the wrong idea OP, the cpu is great for about 95% of games. Only I have come across that play badly ( i mean under 60) are Arma, Battlefield, borderlands 2 (its not TOO bad), and many single threaded games (Garry's mod and modded Minecraft suffer low fps) an skyrim.
But if you play BF3 or BF4 a lot... think about switching to a 4670k or wait for the 4690k end of this month. MUCH faster in these games
I feel like switching to an intel chip would be much more expensive than if I just stayed amd and switched to an fx 8350. If I switched to Intel, I would have to buy a new mobo plus the new cpu. Intel chips are also more expensive right?
You could buy an 8350 for $180-$200, yes, but personally, I wish I'd spent the extra and got a 4670k for $210-$240... Yes, you would need a new mobo, but they are often cheaper than AMD's, coming in at like $120 for a decent one. So, your choice, you can sell your current board for a little pocket change.
Word of advice, you can save $20-$40 on either CPU if you wait for Newegg to have a sale, they are both on sale like every other week, just keep an eye out.
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June 4, 2014 3:17:11 PM
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Xtian1911 said:
its the gameIt's not the game got a 4770k with R9 290 Tri-x and the game runs around 90-110FPS on ultra at 1080p.
It IS the game. If it was my PC, it would happen in every game I play... but its just BF3/BF4. Something (possibly new drivers or somwthing) in the game doesn't like, my 8350, as you are obviously playing fine with your i7 and 290.
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July 22, 2014 11:45:08 PM
BnG said:
Xtian1911 said:
jkteddy77 said:
Xtian1911 said:
its the gameOh yes, don't get the wrong idea OP, the cpu is great for about 95% of games. Only I have come across that play badly ( i mean under 60) are Arma, Battlefield, borderlands 2 (its not TOO bad), and many single threaded games (Garry's mod and modded Minecraft suffer low fps) an skyrim.
But if you play BF3 or BF4 a lot... think about switching to a 4670k or wait for the 4690k end of this month. MUCH faster in these games
Got a 4670k @ 4.2 with an R9-270x made by saphire and still drop ro as low sa 43fps in HD
That is the GPU
. The CPU is a beast, but while the 4th gen is a beast, the 3rd gen is a monstrous beast. Its cheaper/lower temps/higher OC --> will easily make up for the 7% performance boost the 4rd gen gives you compared to 3th gen ^^.Just switched to XFX DD 280x and still getting framerate drops specially when using sniper scope.. I would like to mention again that I am playing in HD (1366x768) my GPU is very much overkill for that.. (even my old one 270x)
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jkteddy77
July 23, 2014 12:12:56 AM
Xtian1911 said:
BnG said:
Xtian1911 said:
jkteddy77 said:
Xtian1911 said:
its the gameOh yes, don't get the wrong idea OP, the cpu is great for about 95% of games. Only I have come across that play badly ( i mean under 60) are Arma, Battlefield, borderlands 2 (its not TOO bad), and many single threaded games (Garry's mod and modded Minecraft suffer low fps) an skyrim.
But if you play BF3 or BF4 a lot... think about switching to a 4670k or wait for the 4690k end of this month. MUCH faster in these games
Got a 4670k @ 4.2 with an R9-270x made by saphire and still drop ro as low sa 43fps in HD
That is the GPU
. The CPU is a beast, but while the 4th gen is a beast, the 3rd gen is a monstrous beast. Its cheaper/lower temps/higher OC --> will easily make up for the 7% performance boost the 4rd gen gives you compared to 3th gen ^^.Just switched to XFX DD 280x and still getting framerate drops specially when using sniper scope.. I would like to mention again that I am playing in HD (1366x768) my GPU is very much overkill for that.. (even my old one 270x)
Are the drops higher than they used to be? honestly it could be the game, did the 280x boost a majority of your fps though?
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July 23, 2014 12:15:32 AM
ZeroRequiem said:
Xtian1911 said:
its the gameIt's not the game got a 4770k with R9 290 Tri-x and the game runs around 90-110FPS on ultra at 1080p.
You get 90-110 in all the maps BF4 1080p all ultra with 4xMsaa and everything? All maps? Is that your real range???
Cause I got 4790k and R9 290 Tri-X now, and I now get about 70-110 on all maps, with drops into 60's at times.... And I have my 4790k at 4.4ghz...
Mantle and DX11...
Did you Highly OC your 290 or something? you sure its not a 290X Tri-X? How is it so fast???
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July 23, 2014 12:22:34 AM
jkteddy77 said:
ZeroRequiem said:
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its the gameIt's not the game got a 4770k with R9 290 Tri-x and the game runs around 90-110FPS on ultra at 1080p.
You get 90-110 in all the maps BF4 1080p all ultra with 4xMsaa and everything? All maps? Is that your real range???
Cause I got 4790k and R9 290 Tri-X now, and I now get about 70-110 on all maps, with drops into 60's at times.... And I have my 4790k at 4.4ghz...
Mantle and DX11...
Did you Highly OC your 290 or something? you sure its not a 290X Tri-X? How is it so fast???
Yes everything maxed out, do NOT, I repeat DO NOT use Mantle, never. FPS only drops into the 60s if Im streaming BF4, but i dont play bf4 anymore (EA and bugs bugs bugs bugs crashes errors and so on)
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jkteddy77
July 23, 2014 12:38:06 AM
ZeroRequiem said:
jkteddy77 said:
ZeroRequiem said:
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its the gameIt's not the game got a 4770k with R9 290 Tri-x and the game runs around 90-110FPS on ultra at 1080p.
You get 90-110 in all the maps BF4 1080p all ultra with 4xMsaa and everything? All maps? Is that your real range???
Cause I got 4790k and R9 290 Tri-X now, and I now get about 70-110 on all maps, with drops into 60's at times.... And I have my 4790k at 4.4ghz...
Mantle and DX11...
Did you Highly OC your 290 or something? you sure its not a 290X Tri-X? How is it so fast???
Yes everything maxed out, do NOT, I repeat DO NOT use Mantle, never. FPS only drops into the 60s if Im streaming BF4, but i dont play bf4 anymore (EA and bugs bugs bugs bugs crashes errors and so on)
Hmm... well even with my 4790k, my card still runs better with Mantle, driver 14.7 beta 60's with DX11, 70+ with Mantle
But really? 90-110 in all maps? or just easy to run maps like the deserts... casue I CANNOT get 90-110 in Hanan Resort, Paracel Strom, ETC....
You sure you got one 290... and you got that at at stock clocks?
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ZeroRequiem
July 23, 2014 1:22:45 AM
jkteddy77
July 23, 2014 2:08:25 AM
ZeroRequiem said:
Yes its a normal R9 290 Tri-x (not 290x)Hmm... still hard to believe... even 780ti drops into the 80's...
Yo you get like 70-110 or... 90-110 is impossible with all ultra... hmm...
Anyways, these cards are fast, look at this
stock: http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/3566004?
OC'd: http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/3566324?
with my GPU stock/OC'd and 4790k at 4.4ghz
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Xtian1911
July 23, 2014 4:50:19 AM
jkteddy77 said:
Xtian1911 said:
BnG said:
Xtian1911 said:
jkteddy77 said:
Xtian1911 said:
its the gameOh yes, don't get the wrong idea OP, the cpu is great for about 95% of games. Only I have come across that play badly ( i mean under 60) are Arma, Battlefield, borderlands 2 (its not TOO bad), and many single threaded games (Garry's mod and modded Minecraft suffer low fps) an skyrim.
But if you play BF3 or BF4 a lot... think about switching to a 4670k or wait for the 4690k end of this month. MUCH faster in these games
Got a 4670k @ 4.2 with an R9-270x made by saphire and still drop ro as low sa 43fps in HD
That is the GPU
. The CPU is a beast, but while the 4th gen is a beast, the 3rd gen is a monstrous beast. Its cheaper/lower temps/higher OC --> will easily make up for the 7% performance boost the 4rd gen gives you compared to 3th gen ^^.Just switched to XFX DD 280x and still getting framerate drops specially when using sniper scope.. I would like to mention again that I am playing in HD (1366x768) my GPU is very much overkill for that.. (even my old one 270x)
Are the drops higher than they used to be? honestly it could be the game, did the 280x boost a majority of your fps though?
ZeroRequiem said:
jkteddy77 said:
ZeroRequiem said:
Xtian1911 said:
its the gameIt's not the game got a 4770k with R9 290 Tri-x and the game runs around 90-110FPS on ultra at 1080p.
You get 90-110 in all the maps BF4 1080p all ultra with 4xMsaa and everything? All maps? Is that your real range???
Cause I got 4790k and R9 290 Tri-X now, and I now get about 70-110 on all maps, with drops into 60's at times.... And I have my 4790k at 4.4ghz...
Mantle and DX11...
Did you Highly OC your 290 or something? you sure its not a 290X Tri-X? How is it so fast???
Yes everything maxed out, do NOT, I repeat DO NOT use Mantle, never. FPS only drops into the 60s if Im streaming BF4, but i dont play bf4 anymore (EA and bugs bugs bugs bugs crashes errors and so on)
Yes.. FPS boosted to around 100-130 @ ultra but still having FPS drops specially when zooming in 40x ballistic and specially in zavod map and haiyan resort.. getting like 35-or 39 fps.. bare in mind my monitor is just HD and im using a beast of a rig.. so I think its the game..
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July 23, 2014 2:54:48 PM
Xtian1911 said:
jkteddy77 said:
Xtian1911 said:
BnG said:
Xtian1911 said:
jkteddy77 said:
Xtian1911 said:
its the gameOh yes, don't get the wrong idea OP, the cpu is great for about 95% of games. Only I have come across that play badly ( i mean under 60) are Arma, Battlefield, borderlands 2 (its not TOO bad), and many single threaded games (Garry's mod and modded Minecraft suffer low fps) an skyrim.
But if you play BF3 or BF4 a lot... think about switching to a 4670k or wait for the 4690k end of this month. MUCH faster in these games
Got a 4670k @ 4.2 with an R9-270x made by saphire and still drop ro as low sa 43fps in HD
That is the GPU
. The CPU is a beast, but while the 4th gen is a beast, the 3rd gen is a monstrous beast. Its cheaper/lower temps/higher OC --> will easily make up for the 7% performance boost the 4rd gen gives you compared to 3th gen ^^.Just switched to XFX DD 280x and still getting framerate drops specially when using sniper scope.. I would like to mention again that I am playing in HD (1366x768) my GPU is very much overkill for that.. (even my old one 270x)
Are the drops higher than they used to be? honestly it could be the game, did the 280x boost a majority of your fps though?
ZeroRequiem said:
jkteddy77 said:
ZeroRequiem said:
Xtian1911 said:
its the gameIt's not the game got a 4770k with R9 290 Tri-x and the game runs around 90-110FPS on ultra at 1080p.
You get 90-110 in all the maps BF4 1080p all ultra with 4xMsaa and everything? All maps? Is that your real range???
Cause I got 4790k and R9 290 Tri-X now, and I now get about 70-110 on all maps, with drops into 60's at times.... And I have my 4790k at 4.4ghz...
Mantle and DX11...
Did you Highly OC your 290 or something? you sure its not a 290X Tri-X? How is it so fast???
Yes everything maxed out, do NOT, I repeat DO NOT use Mantle, never. FPS only drops into the 60s if Im streaming BF4, but i dont play bf4 anymore (EA and bugs bugs bugs bugs crashes errors and so on)
Yes.. FPS boosted to around 100-130 @ ultra but still having FPS drops specially when zooming in 40x ballistic and specially in zavod map and haiyan resort.. getting like 35-or 39 fps.. bare in mind my monitor is just HD and im using a beast of a rig.. so I think its the game..
Hmm... yeah, could just be the game's optimization for your resolution...
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July 23, 2014 2:56:21 PM
Ze golinho
August 22, 2014 4:09:59 AM
I'm getting low fps too in bf4.
got an amd fx8320 oc 4.6mhz
16gb ram 1600mhz
3-r9 280x ASus top...
Samsung 120ssd
1t hard drive
Asus sabertooth. R2.0
Antec 1200 watts pcu..
Playing on 1080p monitor.
Not sure if it's too much graphics for the resolution??
I keep getting some jumps from 120 then drops down to 45 stay on the 70s.. And it will keep repeating...
got an amd fx8320 oc 4.6mhz
16gb ram 1600mhz
3-r9 280x ASus top...
Samsung 120ssd
1t hard drive
Asus sabertooth. R2.0
Antec 1200 watts pcu..
Playing on 1080p monitor.
Not sure if it's too much graphics for the resolution??
I keep getting some jumps from 120 then drops down to 45 stay on the 70s.. And it will keep repeating...
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August 22, 2014 10:35:02 AM
Ze golinho said:
I'm getting low fps too in bf4.got an amd fx8320 oc 4.6mhz
16gb ram 1600mhz
3-r9 280x ASus top...
Samsung 120ssd
1t hard drive
Asus sabertooth. R2.0
Antec 1200 watts pcu..
Playing on 1080p monitor.
Not sure if it's too much graphics for the resolution??
I keep getting some jumps from 120 then drops down to 45 stay on the 70s.. And it will keep repeating...
I think you might be okay with an 8320 with your 280x. Keep in mind, that the 280x cannot handle BF4 all ultra at 60+. on DX11, it should run 40-100, with an average of 50-75.
Keep in mind my r9 290 now still only runs the game 65-120, with an average of 70-90, so don't expect 60+ all the time out of a 280x.
Your fps with Mantle, but I'd guess you'd still get 50-80 or so average.
If you are CPU bottled, it isn't by much. My r9 290 was WAY bottled with DX11 in BF3 and BF4, but your 280x seems alright.
Run Mantle if that's faster. Running Mantle with my 8350 and 4790k almost ran identical, so if you have no issues in other games, I'd say just keep your 8320 (at 4.6ghz, should be minimal bottle)
at 1080p, if you want to keep those dips into the 40's less, run 2xMsaa or 0xMsaa with everything else maxed, or OC your 280x. I have talked to others who say they only keep 60+ with their 280x once they OC'd theirs really high. Your choice. I think 2xmsaa and Mantle will fix your issue.
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Ze golinho
August 22, 2014 11:06:50 AM
jkteddy77
August 22, 2014 11:42:03 AM
Ze golinho
August 23, 2014 3:44:19 AM
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Ze golinho said:
I'm running in trifire!! Not one r9 280x 3- r9 280x
With dx11 with mantle it just crashes...
oh... hmm... very odd then, must be a driver or software issue.
I have updated all drivers, disabled ccc.. Running msi afterburner... Had a lot of tweaking to get the game running.. It would just keep crashing... Direct x error...
I got the 3 gpu working together no jumping...
Ultra settings
Max 145
Average 85
Min 55
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August 23, 2014 1:17:21 PM
Ze golinho said:
jkteddy77 said:
Ze golinho said:
I'm running in trifire!! Not one r9 280x 3- r9 280x
With dx11 with mantle it just crashes...
oh... hmm... very odd then, must be a driver or software issue.
I have updated all drivers, disabled ccc.. Running msi afterburner... Had a lot of tweaking to get the game running.. It would just keep crashing... Direct x error...
I got the 3 gpu working together no jumping...
Ultra settings
Max 145
Average 85
Min 55
hmm... have you tried it with only 2 cards yet?
Do they seem to give you correct fps in other games?
have you tried using default bios or making sure your RAM is properly timed? Maybe its an unstable overclock (I kmow you'll want that OC for 3 cards but...)
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