CPU fan speed Troubles - Ramps up then down at Load

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Hello, I am a lurker and occasional dabbler in home computer builds so consider me a Novice. I have an older i7 920 system that I am tinkering with. MoBo is P6T with the most up to date BIOS 1403(?) IIRC that used to Run vista 32bit but recently had a clean install Win 7 64bit to take advantage of the extra RAM I added. I am using an Antec 900 case from my original build.

One of the areas I am focusing on is core-temperatures, so I've been running Open Hardware Monitor overnight with Seti@home.

One thing I noticed immediately was the fans behaved strangely. Some nights, it would ramp up, then quickly ramp down. Other nights, it would never ramp up at all. Sometimes it would ramp up and stay up, keeping my core temp at 80degrees C (yes I know its a bit higher than recommended but that's part of my project) The 3rd scenario was obviously was I wanted to build on.

The stock Intel i7 Fan idles at 930-950 rpm.

I've played around with QFan, SpeedFan and it always stumped me. Until I found Asus own Xpert fan (my older P6T only supports ver 1, not the newer xpert fan2)

The first Calibration test I did revealed what seems like the source of the problem. The CPU fan defaults to idle speed of 950 rpm when it's suppose to be at 100% even though it ramps up nicely up to at 70% to 1400 RPM. My CPU fans stable top speed seems to be at around 2,000 RPM as i've seen it sit at that speed occasionally.

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What's stranger, I managed, for a brief period, calibrate the fans so the the CPU fan ran at 2,000 RPM at 100% and this seemed to work when I ran Prime95, except the fan speed cut back to idle nearing the end of Test #3 and recalibrating after that showed the same weird fan speed curve. So it was a brief moment of hope that was dashed, but it seems clear that something is not right as the fans COULD work properly, even for a short time.

Trouble Shooting
1) Qfan is disabled, but FanXpert seems to be able to see Qfan settings as it preloaded my Turbo once when I ran it with Qfan on, so I don't think that's the issue.

2) I have MSI GTX760 installed with Afterburner 3.0 (BETA) so I suspected maybe that's conflicting with the CPU and chassis fan, so I restarted making sure not to boot it (it's not an automatic start up program) and got the same results.

Is my MoBo just not working properly?
Are my fans defective?
Is there another program/feature I forgot to turn off that's interfering?
Is it maybe the GPU afterall?


Any help/insight would be appreciated.
 

DexterS12

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I'm running my CPU with Prime95 to test CPU at load with no other factors.

Seti@home cuts back CPU use if there is an interfering program. I first discovered the fan issue while reviewing my overnight CPU fan RPM plots from Open HardWare monitor but that was the start of my investigation.

Besides, it doesn't explain why my CPU fan RPM won't hold at 100% overnight instead of cutting back to idle RPM of 930 or so; even when CPU stays at load (according to the same OpenHardWare monitor plots I reviewed). The issue seems to be the Fan thinks its RPM at 100% is the idle rpm based on the calibration from Fan Xpert. And I'm not sure what's causing it, or if its just a defect I can't fix.
 


Most likely The motherboards fault then as motherboard controls all the fan speeds. Also what is your PSU rated power at ? when you run everything 100% it might wear it down and it gives less amps when it is heated.

 

DexterS12

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650W Antec PSU which was rated for SLi back in 2009; I only have HDD, 4x 120mm TriCool Fan, the top 200mm fan, 1 GPU GTX 760 , CPU and a BR drive.

Also I managed to get fan xpert to return the correct values again, this time, having Afterburner 3.0 (beta) running with fan profile set to User defined. Not sure if it's coincidence of Afterburner interfering. The last time, I thought it was the user defined profiles causing the ramp down of the fan so I shut it off.

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DexterS12

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Just an update. So I ran the CPU overnight with the fan speeds at the correct settings as above. This is what happened.
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At load fan ran at the highest RPM for a few hours then abruptly cut off. Re-running FanXpert calibration this morning and I'm back to the bell curved RPM with the fan ramping down as it reaches 100% speed.


About 10 minutes later, I reran the calibration again and the speeds are back to normal.


 

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