Gtx 780 Direct CU II VS R9 290x Direct CU II

noelbuker · Jun 4, 2014

Wich one? In my country The 290x is 30 euro more expensive!

unknownofprob · Jun 4, 2014

the R9 290X is clearly the better card, highly recommend that card over the 780. I had same choice and took the R9 290X. Extre 1GB GDDR5 Vram, wider bus, all making it have the better potential at maxing out games for longer and handle multiple/high resolutions far better. the R9 290X as reviewed crushed the 780 in 4k.

http://www.eteknix.com/4k-gaming-showdown-amd-r9-290x-r9-280x-vs-nvidia-gtx-titan-gtx-780/

Check that out, even though you may not be going 4k any time soon, this is a good indicator of it's performance to come.

Eduello · Jun 4, 2014

I would get the R9 290X; It trades blows with the GTX 780 Ti.

Ilovejack · Jun 4, 2014

noelbuker :

290x is slightly faster than gtx 780 .... I myself prefer 780 .... its cooler than 290x and more stable for over clocking

ChrisR83 · Jun 4, 2014

I would go for the 780, the 290X is slightly more powerful, but @ 1080p you are talking 5-10fps difference depending on the game, if you are playing on a 60hz monitor, you monitor is only going to display 60 of those frames so there is no reason to be running 100+fps. also with nvidia you get shadowplay, geforce experience, ect.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1056?vs=1036

unknownofprob · Jun 4, 2014

ChrisR83 :

later on, the R9 290X will benefit, currently, no. The OP may want this card to last the longest it can be, and in a few years time, the R9 290X will be defiantly pushing to get 60fps ultra 1080p, i doubt with some games next year it'll be getting above 60FPS ultra. In other words the 780 is going to be working even harder, and that extra 10FPS will be noticeable.

noelbuker · Jun 4, 2014

So the r9 290x is better, but runs hotter, anyone have a heat benchmark for THE direct CU II version!

unknownofprob · Jun 4, 2014

This is for the R9 290 DirectCU II, similar card essentially and same cooler;

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2014/03/03/asus-radeon-r9-290-directcu-ii-oc-review/8

Compare that to the stock R9 290/X and it is far better, also notice that the R9 290 and X stock temps are the same, so expect the DCUII 290/X to be the same or similar. Actually pretty close and in some cases better then 780.

Plusthinking Iq · Jun 4, 2014

780 wins overall, looses in 5% fps.
780 is cooler, quieter, uses less power. 3gb vram should be enough for anything 1080p. every game i have tried uses about 1.1 gb vram. watchdog fiasko does not count. amd are loosing because of older technology.

ChrisR83 · Jun 4, 2014

unknownofprob :

there is no way to know for sure how demanding future titles are going to be, Watch Dogs is so poorly optimized you can’t even use that in an argument. the extra 1gb of Vram is not going to make that much of a difference. unless you are running multiple monitors at high resolutions in a Xfire/SLI setup, you don’t really benefit from having 4gb of Vram on a single 1080p monitor. Both cards would be a good buy. I say look at your budget and what each card has to offer, like I said before for recording/rendering the 780 is the better choice, but yes the 290x is slightly more powerful in terms of fps, I am not disputing that. The 780’s do tend to over clock better but it all depends on the quality of the chip you get in your GPU, you will not know until you get the card and try over clocking it.

unknownofprob · Jun 4, 2014

Plusthinking Iq :

hawaii XT is old?

Technology?, the new Hawaii chipsets are considered new technology.

Plusthinking Iq · Jun 4, 2014

if you get a tiny bit more fps at the cost of heat, temps, and noise its not very new is it... its just a oc

unknownofprob · Jun 4, 2014

what does that have to do with new? That sounds more like efficiency, efficiency may play a part in peoples decisions, but in context with technology, no sense at all.

take a look at the review I listed, the DCUII cooler on the R9 290 perform in cases better then the 780 reference and custom cooled.

Noise; All DirectCU II coolers use the same fans, so no noise difference between the 780 and R9 290/X.

Romeru · Jun 4, 2014

The R9 cards are NOT hotter compared to the 700 series cards. That only applies if you're reffering to the reference coolers. A 290/290x from Sapphire will be in the low 70's just like a 780.

So both have some overclocking headroom.
The 290x does have more horsepower than a gtx 780 but I don't think it's worth the extra cash. If the R9 290 is cheaper get it instead.
Just make sure to get the one with an aftermarket cooler such as Tri-X from Sapphire or anything simular.

Also you get access to features such as the Mantle API which will boost your frames a lot in games that support it such as, Battlefield 4, Thief and upcoming ones. + The extra vram for higher resolutions.

kenny1007 · Jun 4, 2014

I've seen both cards in action and in benchmarks it’s true that the R290x beats the GTX 780 but I do feel that games run better with the GTX780. Perhaps it has to do with drive optimization or what not. Plus you can OC the GTX780 card and outperform the R290x with possible lower temps.

unknownofprob · Jun 4, 2014

kenny1007 :

I've got my R9 290X at 1295Mhz core clock stable, temps never above 80 degrees. A GTX 780 will be really hard to match that. I am lucky with my chip, most 290X's can't go above 1150Mhz core clock.

kenny1007 · Jun 4, 2014

unknownofprob :

It’s all about luck so the question is. Is it even worth OC cards that are this powerful in the first place? I can bet that most new upcoming title will run in Ultra settings even in a single 770GTX. As far as mantle go, it’s to new of a technology and only about a handful of game support it.

unknownofprob · Jun 4, 2014

mantle are only in two current day games that are popular, quite a loss for them. I did mention luck but depending on what you use the card for, it is really up to the user if they decide to OC or not.

Embra · Jun 4, 2014

Full review of the Asus 290x attached. Hands down the choice for $30 more. Notice temps and noise.
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_radeon_r9_290x_directcuii_oc_review,1.html

Plusthinking Iq · Jun 4, 2014

ofc 780 is cooler if its uses less power, jsut do not use the auto fan crap, lower temps mean you can lower the fan speed, its not rocket science.

unknownofprob · Jun 4, 2014

Plusthinking Iq :

more power ≠ More heat. power consumption is only for what the card requires, the heat generated is not in the same context, heat is due to stress/efficiency (More power does not always mean less efficient, depends on the strength of the card and how well it utilizes power) and also the cooler type. Don't know who your referring too about fan speed but no-one listed anything about that.

ChrisR83 · Jun 4, 2014

i think he meant that with slower fan speeds you will have quieter operation.

noelbuker · Jun 4, 2014

Only answer, gtx 780 Or r9 290x!

I'll count them!

ChrisR83 · Jun 4, 2014

gtx 780

PC_gamer5150 · Jun 4, 2014

get the tri -X OC by sapphire if you are going with a 290x. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202079
runs much cooler/quieter

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