Gtx 780 Direct CU II VS R9 290x Direct CU II
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noelbuker
June 4, 2014 7:22:53 AM
unknownofprob
June 4, 2014 7:32:55 AM
the R9 290X is clearly the better card, highly recommend that card over the 780. I had same choice and took the R9 290X. Extre 1GB GDDR5 Vram, wider bus, all making it have the better potential at maxing out games for longer and handle multiple/high resolutions far better. the R9 290X as reviewed crushed the 780 in 4k.
http://www.eteknix.com/4k-gaming-showdown-amd-r9-290x-r...
Check that out, even though you may not be going 4k any time soon, this is a good indicator of it's performance to come.
http://www.eteknix.com/4k-gaming-showdown-amd-r9-290x-r...
Check that out, even though you may not be going 4k any time soon, this is a good indicator of it's performance to come.
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Eduello
June 4, 2014 7:32:57 AM
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Ilovejack
June 4, 2014 7:33:35 AM
ChrisR83
June 4, 2014 7:38:36 AM
I would go for the 780, the 290X is slightly more powerful, but @ 1080p you are talking 5-10fps difference depending on the game, if you are playing on a 60hz monitor, you monitor is only going to display 60 of those frames so there is no reason to be running 100+fps. also with nvidia you get shadowplay, geforce experience, ect.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1056?vs=1036
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1056?vs=1036
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unknownofprob
June 4, 2014 7:40:53 AM
ChrisR83 said:
I would go for the 780, the 290X is slightly more powerful, but @ 1080p you are talking 5-10fps difference depending on the game, if you are playing on a 60hz monitor, you monitor is only going to display 60 of those frames so there is no reason to be running 100+fps. also with nvidia you get shadowplay, geforce experience, ect.http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1056?vs=1036
later on, the R9 290X will benefit, currently, no. The OP may want this card to last the longest it can be, and in a few years time, the R9 290X will be defiantly pushing to get 60fps ultra 1080p, i doubt with some games next year it'll be getting above 60FPS ultra. In other words the 780 is going to be working even harder, and that extra 10FPS will be noticeable.
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noelbuker
June 4, 2014 7:43:30 AM
unknownofprob
June 4, 2014 7:47:23 AM
This is for the R9 290 DirectCU II, similar card essentially and same cooler;
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2014/03/03/as...
Compare that to the stock R9 290/X and it is far better, also notice that the R9 290 and X stock temps are the same, so expect the DCUII 290/X to be the same or similar. Actually pretty close and in some cases better then 780.
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2014/03/03/as...
Compare that to the stock R9 290/X and it is far better, also notice that the R9 290 and X stock temps are the same, so expect the DCUII 290/X to be the same or similar. Actually pretty close and in some cases better then 780.
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Plusthinking Iq
June 4, 2014 7:50:00 AM
ChrisR83
June 4, 2014 7:50:47 AM
unknownofprob said:
ChrisR83 said:
I would go for the 780, the 290X is slightly more powerful, but @ 1080p you are talking 5-10fps difference depending on the game, if you are playing on a 60hz monitor, you monitor is only going to display 60 of those frames so there is no reason to be running 100+fps. also with nvidia you get shadowplay, geforce experience, ect.http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1056?vs=1036
later on, the R9 290X will benefit, currently, no. The OP may want this card to last the longest it can be, and in a few years time, the R9 290X will be defiantly pushing to get 60fps ultra 1080p, i doubt with some games next year it'll be getting above 60FPS ultra.
there is no way to know for sure how demanding future titles are going to be, Watch Dogs is so poorly optimized you can’t even use that in an argument. the extra 1gb of Vram is not going to make that much of a difference. unless you are running multiple monitors at high resolutions in a Xfire/SLI setup, you don’t really benefit from having 4gb of Vram on a single 1080p monitor. Both cards would be a good buy. I say look at your budget and what each card has to offer, like I said before for recording/rendering the 780 is the better choice, but yes the 290x is slightly more powerful in terms of fps, I am not disputing that. The 780’s do tend to over clock better but it all depends on the quality of the chip you get in your GPU, you will not know until you get the card and try over clocking it.
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unknownofprob
June 4, 2014 7:51:42 AM
Plusthinking Iq said:
780 wins overall, looses in 5% fps.780 is cooler, quieter, uses less power. 3gb vram should be enough for anything 1080p. every game i have tried uses about 1.1 gb vram. watchdog fiasko does not count. amd are loosing because of older technology.
hawaii XT is old?
Technology?, the new Hawaii chipsets are considered new technology.
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Plusthinking Iq
June 4, 2014 7:54:53 AM
unknownofprob
June 4, 2014 7:56:21 AM
what does that have to do with new? That sounds more like efficiency, efficiency may play a part in peoples decisions, but in context with technology, no sense at all.
take a look at the review I listed, the DCUII cooler on the R9 290 perform in cases better then the 780 reference and custom cooled.
Noise; All DirectCU II coolers use the same fans, so no noise difference between the 780 and R9 290/X.
take a look at the review I listed, the DCUII cooler on the R9 290 perform in cases better then the 780 reference and custom cooled.
Noise; All DirectCU II coolers use the same fans, so no noise difference between the 780 and R9 290/X.
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Romeru
June 4, 2014 7:56:57 AM
The R9 cards are NOT hotter compared to the 700 series cards. That only applies if you're reffering to the reference coolers. A 290/290x from Sapphire will be in the low 70's just like a 780.
So both have some overclocking headroom.
The 290x does have more horsepower than a gtx 780 but I don't think it's worth the extra cash. If the R9 290 is cheaper get it instead.
Just make sure to get the one with an aftermarket cooler such as Tri-X from Sapphire or anything simular.
Also you get access to features such as the Mantle API which will boost your frames a lot in games that support it such as, Battlefield 4, Thief and upcoming ones. + The extra vram for higher resolutions.
So both have some overclocking headroom.
The 290x does have more horsepower than a gtx 780 but I don't think it's worth the extra cash. If the R9 290 is cheaper get it instead.
Just make sure to get the one with an aftermarket cooler such as Tri-X from Sapphire or anything simular.
Also you get access to features such as the Mantle API which will boost your frames a lot in games that support it such as, Battlefield 4, Thief and upcoming ones. + The extra vram for higher resolutions.
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kenny1007
June 4, 2014 8:02:58 AM
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unknownofprob
June 4, 2014 8:05:34 AM
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I've seen both cards in action and in benchmarks it’s true that the R290x beats the GTX 780 but I do feel that games run better with the GTX780. Perhaps it has to do with drive optimization or what not. Plus you can OC the GTX780 card and outperform the R290x with possible lower temps.I've got my R9 290X at 1295Mhz core clock stable, temps never above 80 degrees. A GTX 780 will be really hard to match that. I am lucky with my chip, most 290X's can't go above 1150Mhz core clock.
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kenny1007
June 4, 2014 8:11:14 AM
unknownofprob said:
kenny1007 said:
I've seen both cards in action and in benchmarks it’s true that the R290x beats the GTX 780 but I do feel that games run better with the GTX780. Perhaps it has to do with drive optimization or what not. Plus you can OC the GTX780 card and outperform the R290x with possible lower temps.I've got my R9 290X at 1295Mhz core clock stable, temps never above 80 degrees. A GTX 780 will be really hard to match that. I am lucky with my chip, most 290X's can't go above 1150Mhz core clock.
It’s all about luck so the question is. Is it even worth OC cards that are this powerful in the first place? I can bet that most new upcoming title will run in Ultra settings even in a single 770GTX. As far as mantle go, it’s to new of a technology and only about a handful of game support it.
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unknownofprob
June 4, 2014 8:17:03 AM
Embra
June 4, 2014 8:19:05 AM
Full review of the Asus 290x attached. Hands down the choice for $30 more. Notice temps and noise.
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_radeon_r9_290...
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_radeon_r9_290...
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Plusthinking Iq
June 4, 2014 8:25:32 AM
unknownofprob
June 4, 2014 8:32:58 AM
Plusthinking Iq said:
ofc 780 is cooler if its uses less power, jsut do not use the auto fan crap, lower temps mean you can lower the fan speed, its not rocket science.more power ≠ More heat. power consumption is only for what the card requires, the heat generated is not in the same context, heat is due to stress/efficiency (More power does not always mean less efficient, depends on the strength of the card and how well it utilizes power) and also the cooler type. Don't know who your referring too about fan speed but no-one listed anything about that.
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ChrisR83
June 4, 2014 8:36:38 AM
noelbuker
June 4, 2014 11:02:52 AM
ChrisR83
June 4, 2014 11:19:29 AM
PC_gamer5150
June 4, 2014 11:23:22 AM
get the tri -X OC by sapphire if you are going with a 290x. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
runs much cooler/quieter
runs much cooler/quieter
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Ilovejack
June 4, 2014 11:27:27 AM
noelbuker said:
Wich one? In my country The 290x is 30 euro more expensive!you can get a powercolor 290x which is cooler and more stable than any other 290x
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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kenny1007
June 4, 2014 11:37:49 AM
noelbuker
June 4, 2014 2:07:57 PM
Suztera
June 4, 2014 2:10:39 PM
noelbuker
June 4, 2014 2:14:46 PM
Zuztera, iTS à dutch website, www.azerty.com !
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unknownofprob
June 4, 2014 7:57:24 PM
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