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June 4, 2014 9:35:15 AM

So I am in quite a conundrum right now. I currently have an AMD FX-8350 CPU overclocked to 4.6GHz (unable to go higher) using water cooling. I built a great rig for a friend and went under his budget, so he gave me the extra money left over! So with that extra money, I would like to transition to Intel, but I will also need to buy a new motherboard (<$160), which I can find no problem. But first, I need find the right CPU. I was looking at getting an Intel i5-4670k for $220 ($205 w/ rebate which ends today) or an i5-3570k ($230).

The reason I chose the Haswell (4670k) is due to the better performance results on many websites. Not much better performance, only slightly. From what I understand, the Ivy Bridges (3570k) Overclock slightly better, but I am not too concerned about overclocking. The other reason I like the Haswell is due to the motherboards (1150). The Ivy Bridge (1155) motherboards below $160 don't seem that great. Some of the Newegg ratings aren't bad, but they don't have as many of the features that the 1150 motherboards have.

I am willing to bump the CPU up to an i7 if the increase is worth it. I would prefer to stick to the i5 due to budget reasons, but I can certainly be flexible. I am okay with going either Ivy Bridge or Haswell, but would like some justifications as to why.

The last issue I was curious about is whether or not it is worth upgrading right now with the new Intel CPU's being released this year (Devil's Canyon/Broadwell?). Also, what pin layout will these new CPU's have? 1150 or something different? I ask this because I would prefer not to have to switch to a new motherboard down the road. I have done a bit of researching on them, but haven't found anything. It could be possible that this information has not been released yet, but wanted to see if anyone here knew.

With all of that being said, is it worth switching to an Intel CPU for gaming (MMO's specifically, but also play other genres)? My AMD CPU has done well to me, but would like the best in-game fps that I can get if it's worth the switch.

TL;DR - Should I upgrade from my AMD 8350 to an Intel i5/i7 and if so, should I go Ivy Bridge or Haswell?

My Rig:
Case: Thermaltake Chaser MK-I
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA990FXA-UD3
CPU: AMD FX-8350 OC to 4.6 GHz
CPU Water Cooler: Corsair H60
GPU: Gigabyte GHz Edition GTX 780 3GB
RAM: GSkill Sniper Series 8GB 1866
DVD Burner: LG 24x
Bluray Player: Lite-on 4x Bluray
HDD: Toshiba 3TB 7200 RPM (Games)
SSD: Seagate 600240GB (OS)
Monitors: Acer H226HQLbid x3
Keyboard: Logitech G11
Mouse: Razer Naga Epic
OS: Windows 8 64-bit
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June 4, 2014 9:38:27 AM

With a Gtx 780 as graphics card it would be a good upgrade, but I would like to give you a suggestion for another CPU:
the i5 4690K though it is not out in the US yet, in Europe it just hit the market but it should be in the US very soon.
It is a bit better then a i5 4670k with improved thermal interface material, so it will also run a bit cooler.

Also here is a good gaming motherboard for the i5 4690k:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/HmxbwP
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/HmxbwP/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/HmxbwP/benchmarks/

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-Gaming 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Mwave)
Total: $149.99
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-04 12:42 EDT-0400)
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June 4, 2014 9:40:27 AM

Your system should still be fine for now. You can upgrade now, or wait a bit and maybe upgrade later.

Intel will provide better single threaded performance.

If you do upgrade now, maybe consider the Haswell refresh that are still being released. I would imagine that saving your money and just waiting for the next generation (Broadwell) might be a better time to upgrade maybe.
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June 4, 2014 9:42:57 AM

Computersloeber said:
With a Gtx 780 as graphics card it would be a good upgrade, but I would like to give you a suggestion for another CPU:
the i5 4690K though it is not out in the US yet, in Europe it just hit the market but it should be in the US very soon.
It is a bit better then a i5 4670k with improved thermal interface material, so it will also run a bit cooler.

Good call, haven't heard about these yet. Willing to hear some other answers to see what might be the best choice in this situation. Thank you for the input!
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June 4, 2014 9:48:43 AM

Calnin said:
Your system should still be fine for now. You can upgrade now, or wait a bit and maybe upgrade later.

Intel will provide better single threaded performance.

If you do upgrade now, maybe consider the Haswell refresh that are still being released. I would imagine that saving your money and just waiting for the next generation (Broadwell) might be a better time to upgrade maybe.

Do you happen to know if a date been announced on when they will be released? Not in a huge rush, just curious.
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June 4, 2014 9:49:14 AM

Computersloeber said:
With a Gtx 780 as graphics card it would be a good upgrade, but I would like to give you a suggestion for another CPU:
the i5 4690K though it is not out in the US yet, in Europe it just hit the market but it should be in the US very soon.
It is a bit better then a i5 4670k with improved thermal interface material, so it will also run a bit cooler.

Also here is a good gaming motherboard for the i5 4690k:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/HmxbwP
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/HmxbwP/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/HmxbwP/benchmarks/

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-Gaming 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Mwave)
Total: $149.99
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-04 12:42 EDT-0400)

Looks like the i5 4690k will be released later this month:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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June 4, 2014 9:50:32 AM

Tierney11290 said:
Computersloeber said:
With a Gtx 780 as graphics card it would be a good upgrade, but I would like to give you a suggestion for another CPU:
the i5 4690K though it is not out in the US yet, in Europe it just hit the market but it should be in the US very soon.
It is a bit better then a i5 4670k with improved thermal interface material, so it will also run a bit cooler.

Also here is a good gaming motherboard for the i5 4690k:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/HmxbwP
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/HmxbwP/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/HmxbwP/benchmarks/

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-Gaming 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Mwave)
Total: $149.99
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-04 12:42 EDT-0400)

Looks like the i5 4690k will be released later this month:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


If you can wait for it then go for it. It will be a slight improvement over a i5 4670K.
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June 4, 2014 9:51:30 AM

I don't know about dates or anything.
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June 4, 2014 9:51:46 AM

Calnin said:
I don't know about dates or anything.


It should be very soon though because it is already released in Europe.
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June 4, 2014 10:15:08 AM

Thank you everyone for your inputs. I am willing to wait for the i5 4690k, but would that be a worthy upgrade from the AMD FX-8350? As I said previously, I am an avid MMO player (with a bit of other genres), so would it be better to have the Intel in this case? And would the i7 version be better or stick with the i5? I have heard there isn't much difference, especially for $100 more, but want to be sure I get the right one!
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June 4, 2014 10:21:20 AM

The upgrade is definitely justified. Seeing as you don't really plan on overclocking, the i5-4690k would be your best option paired with a Z97 board. Just to leave the option of overclocking in the future.

And currently, i7s yield minimal performance gains over the i5, so no, it's not worth it to go with the i7. And seeing as you play MMOs (I do as well), you'd see much bigger performance gains from an Intel CPUs due to their sheer single core performance. MMOs love single core performance. You'll instantly see a difference if you choose to switch.
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June 4, 2014 10:22:10 AM

Tierney11290 said:
Thank you everyone for your inputs. I am willing to wait for the i5 4690k, but would that be a worthy upgrade from the AMD FX-8350? As I said previously, I am an avid MMO player (with a bit of other genres), so would it be better to have the Intel in this case? And would the i7 version be better or stick with the i5? I have heard there isn't much difference, especially for $100 more, but want to be sure I get the right one!


The only thing you get when you buy an i7 is hyper-threading, but you don't need that for gaming. The i5 is about the same as an i7 now in games. Don't waste your money on an i7.
It would be a worthy upgrade and you will be able to get more performance out of your Gtx 780 and thus out of your rig.
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June 4, 2014 10:55:24 AM

enemy1g said:
The upgrade is definitely justified. Seeing as you don't really plan on overclocking, the i5-4690k would be your best option paired with a Z97 board. Just to leave the option of overclocking in the future.

And currently, i7s yield minimal performance gains over the i5, so no, it's not worth it to go with the i7. And seeing as you play MMOs (I do as well), you'd see much bigger performance gains from an Intel CPUs due to their sheer single core performance. MMOs love single core performance. You'll instantly see a difference if you choose to switch.

Thank you for the advice. I am pretty excited for this upgrade as I have been looking into going Intel for awhile, just didn't save up the money! I will be overclocking, just like I did with the 8350, but I'm not going to crazy on it. Might as well overclock if the option is there, especially with a water cooler! Chose this as the best answer.

Computersloeber said:
Tierney11290 said:
Thank you everyone for your inputs. I am willing to wait for the i5 4690k, but would that be a worthy upgrade from the AMD FX-8350? As I said previously, I am an avid MMO player (with a bit of other genres), so would it be better to have the Intel in this case? And would the i7 version be better or stick with the i5? I have heard there isn't much difference, especially for $100 more, but want to be sure I get the right one!


The only thing you get when you buy an i7 is hyper-threading, but you don't need that for gaming. The i5 is about the same as an i7 now in games. Don't waste your money on an i7.
It would be a worthy upgrade and you will be able to get more performance out of your Gtx 780 and thus out of your rig.


Thank you for the help @Computersloeber! Wish I could pick two solutions for this question :/  You both were a huge help in this situation. Going to go order the parts now and wait for them to come in!
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June 4, 2014 10:58:47 AM

Tierney11290 said:
enemy1g said:
The upgrade is definitely justified. Seeing as you don't really plan on overclocking, the i5-4690k would be your best option paired with a Z97 board. Just to leave the option of overclocking in the future.

And currently, i7s yield minimal performance gains over the i5, so no, it's not worth it to go with the i7. And seeing as you play MMOs (I do as well), you'd see much bigger performance gains from an Intel CPUs due to their sheer single core performance. MMOs love single core performance. You'll instantly see a difference if you choose to switch.

Thank you for the advice. I am pretty excited for this upgrade as I have been looking into going Intel for awhile, just didn't save up the money! I will be overclocking, just like I did with the 8350, but I'm not going to crazy on it. Might as well overclock if the option is there, especially with a water cooler! Chose this as the best answer.

Computersloeber said:
Tierney11290 said:
Thank you everyone for your inputs. I am willing to wait for the i5 4690k, but would that be a worthy upgrade from the AMD FX-8350? As I said previously, I am an avid MMO player (with a bit of other genres), so would it be better to have the Intel in this case? And would the i7 version be better or stick with the i5? I have heard there isn't much difference, especially for $100 more, but want to be sure I get the right one!


The only thing you get when you buy an i7 is hyper-threading, but you don't need that for gaming. The i5 is about the same as an i7 now in games. Don't waste your money on an i7.
It would be a worthy upgrade and you will be able to get more performance out of your Gtx 780 and thus out of your rig.


Thank you for the help @Computersloeber! Wish I could pick two solutions for this question :/  You both were a huge help in this situation. Going to go order the parts now and wait for them to come in!


No problem man! I hope you enjoy it.
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