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kevin0k

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Hellow everyone, I have a Task for my university (srry for the english) , the missión of this pc is to calculate and simulate mechanic proyects like a stress in beam of a full estructure. We work with PTC Creo 2.0 and we need to do our simulation in less than 3 or 2 hours.
I was given a very low budget (I'm from Chile so no dollars )=!) so i need you guys to help me with this build, if there are anything bad like cpu with moba or the psu plz tell me =)

The build
CPU: AMD FX-8350
MOBA: Asus M5A97 R2.0
Ram: 2x kingstone Hyperfury X 1866 Mhz 8 GB total of 16GB RAmm
Video Card (a really basic one): XFX 7770 GHZ edition
SSD Disc: Samsung 840 EVO 500GB
PSU:Antec Neo Eco 620W

Is the PSU good enough? would I have some problems with the moba and the cpu?
consider that it would be just for analysis.
 
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You guys really have no idea what the software needs do you? Although it wants as much ram as it needs, it's primarily cpu intensive, heavily multi threaded to be specific. Going to 2011 is just a waste of money unless you bump up to the 6 core.
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boosted1g

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Antec is fine, if XFX or Seasonic is better. If you do my suggestions bellow a 400-450w is plenty of power.

For math calculations I strongly recomend an Intel CPU over the AMD, they are just better at doing math calculations.

I dont kow what the prices are in your country, but the 8350 here is $180-190 and you should be able to get a 4670 Core i5 for $200 or less. Get an LGA 1150 motherboard, preferably a z87 chipset and you should then not need a dedicated grpahics card as the cpu has one built in that is fine for engineering tasks (assuming you are not doing 3d modeling or anything graphics intensive).

Good call on the SSD.

 
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Ask yourself the following questions:

1. Can the software (PTC Creo 2.0?) do multitasking? If not, then how fast is one core of the machine? How much are you paying for the other cores that will not do much work? Can you save by perhaps buying fewer cores and perhaps at faster speed?

2. Do you need more than basic graphics capability? If not, then why pay for a basic graphics card? Many modern CPUs come with embedded graphics capability

3. Does your workload do much I/O processing? If not, do you really need to pay for an SSD or can a much cheaper hard drive do the same job?

4. Is your workload memory intensive? If not, why not buy DDR3- 1600 memory that is much cheaper. If yes, then will you benefit from more memory?

ANswer these questions and I"ll see what I can suggest.
 
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boosted1g

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Do you really need a 500GB SSD drive?

Most all programs load the file into RAM memory, so aside from a second less time to open the project initially, there is no reason why you couldnt have a 250 gb ssd (or even a 120) and a 1-2tb hard drive. Unless of course you will have that much data in programs.
 
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boosted1g

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Ok this will be better suited.
Have quad core XEON cpu. The R7-265 is the equivilant to an hd7850 and is the best bang for buck card in its price range. The spec sheet suggested workstation graphics card, unfortunatly a good firepro card will run you 400-500 USD all the way up to 4000.

Anyways here is the build:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1220 V3 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($203.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($153.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R7 265 2GB Video Card ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair SPEC-02 ATX Mid Tower Case ($57.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $720.91 (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.) (Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-05 16:44 EDT-0400)
 
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That's a really good build, but OP posted a link to a document. This thing is very CPU/memory intensive.

I'm wondering if the larger number of memory lanes on the higher spec motherboards (LGA 2011) and more memory on more channels would not be beneficial? Probably add a few $100 to the price, but if that's what they need...

 
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So, based on what I said earlier, maybe this. About $300 more expensive, but more memory and more lanes...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3820 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($302.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Intel BXRTS2011AC CPU Cooler ($21.15 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock X79 Extreme4 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Z Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($290.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.44 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R7 265 2GB Video Card ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair SPEC-02 ATX Mid Tower Case ($57.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 750W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1162.49
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-05 17:06 EDT-0400)
 
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You guys really have no idea what the software needs do you? Although it wants as much ram as it needs, it's primarily cpu intensive, heavily multi threaded to be specific. Going to 2011 is just a waste of money unless you bump up to the 6 core.
 
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kevin0k

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I decided to stay with the build, another person would build and i7 and I will post some results later of the month maybe =) I searched in other forums in ptc that should back my build , well thanks to everyone and for the time
 
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