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June 5, 2014 11:25:09 PM

Okay so I am stuck on weather getting a i5-4670k now and get the i7-4770k later or get the i7-4770k now. So here are my PC specs right now:


Intel Core i5-4670K Quad Core @ 3.4 Ghz
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO Sleeve Bearing
Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX
Kingston Fury Black 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3-1600
Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 7200 RPM
ASUS GeForce GTX 760 2GB OC DirectCU ii
Fractal Design Define R4 Black Pearl
XFX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified
Samsung SH-224DB
Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-Bit (OEM)
Acer H236LBid 23" LED Widescreen IPS
Corsair Raptor K30 LED Backlit Wired Gaming Keyboard
Corsair Raptor M40 LED Lit Wired Gaming Mouse
Corsair Raptor HS30 Wired Gaming Headset w/ Microphone

Basically I have been hearing how more games will now benefit with 8 cores so will there be a big difference between fps with a 8 core and 4 core.

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June 5, 2014 11:33:20 PM

I would go with the i5 for gaming as almost no games get any advantage from an i7 over an i5, so save your money and spend it on a better graphics card instead of an i7. Besides the i5 is known as the king of gaming for a reason :D 
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June 5, 2014 11:39:30 PM

The prevailing theory is that the industry will move towards utilizing more cores but as of now the maximum utilized for any game is currently 4. you will see no performance gains (in gaming) by getting more than that and as far as the AMD "octo"-cores they are simply 4 cores each with two logical cores for a pseudo 8 core type of configuration, but generally performs slightly worse in games ( usually around ~5-10 % depending on the game)than intel chips due to lower calculations per cycle on AMDs current line-up .


As far as Hyper-threading, the only real difference between the 4670K and the 4770k, like aditional cores games dont really use it yet and you will see little to no benefit as of now in games from upgrading to a 4770k.

However if you are doing video editing or computer modeling etc. you will see quite a few advantages, but if your getting heavy into that sort of thing, something like a 4930k would be better than both. But thats a different discussion.
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June 5, 2014 11:44:34 PM

I second, though for slightly different reasons. They say 8 cores because that's the number found in the new consoles. Two issues with this. First, the consoles are using really small cores. Literally half the size found in the desktop cpus that amd ships. Second, just because the consoles have them don't mean we know how to program for them. Third, when you do need to upgrade the 8 core cpus should be faster/cheaper. So until we need them, I'd hold off.
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June 5, 2014 11:52:46 PM

first off; the i7-4770k is not an octa core.

secondly, it'll be awhile before a majority of games even start to benefit from 8 cores over 4. you can argue future games will be made in accordance to current consoles' 8 core CPU. even then, i imagine a higher clock CPU like the FX, or ones with faster IPCs like intels will manage to make up for that shortcoming, if it's even one at all, save the bad ports that much prefer more slower cores over fewer faster ones.

case in point;
http://www.techspot.com/review/827-watch-dogs-benchmark...

no difference whatsoever between an actual hexacore i7-4960X and that of a quad core i7/i5. the same went for Thief, and BF4. about the only games that did benefit from more cores in recent memory was Crysis 3 and SC2. the former didn't exactly bring in a wave of games requiring more cores to be playable and the latter is a PC exclusive so it being optimized for more cores/HT is understandable.
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June 5, 2014 11:59:03 PM

Looking at that build I would use the money saved by using an i5 to get a higher gpu, 770? That will get far more gaming performance gains in all modern games.
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June 6, 2014 2:54:01 AM

The 4770k is on sale at Microcenter for 269 it's pretty awesome
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June 6, 2014 3:08:38 AM

I'm finding most AAA games releasing now can use >4 threads and a Xeon (I7) works great.
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June 6, 2014 7:02:27 AM

Oh thanks everyone for the answer! :)  Really helped. So what I am going to do is basically keep the i5-4670k (I mean I will be doing video editing but nothing to intensive, just trimming, transitions, and adding text to videos) So here is what the build will look like:


Intel Core i5-4670k
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H
Kingston Fury Black Series 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3-1600
Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB
MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB Twin Frozr
Fractal Design Define R4 Black Pearl
XFX 850W 80+ Bronze Certified
Samsung SH-224DB
Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-Bit (OEM)
Acer H236LBid 23" LED Widescreen IPS
Corsair Raptor K30
Corsair Raptor M40
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June 6, 2014 8:50:16 AM

Looks good. I don't like the PSU however. Bronze units are for ultra cheap builds, and you don't need anywhere near an 850W unit.

Any way to squeeze in the 4GB 770? You might want to go with the 280X for it's 3GB frame buffer.
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June 9, 2014 8:46:41 AM

4745454b said:
Looks good. I don't like the PSU however. Bronze units are for ultra cheap builds, and you don't need anywhere near an 850W unit.

Any way to squeeze in the 4GB 770? You might want to go with the 280X for it's 3GB frame buffer.


After a lot of debate this is what I settled with:


Intel Core i5-4670k
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H
Kingston Fury Black Series 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3-1600
Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 7200 RPM
EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Superclocked ACX
Fractal Design Define R4 Blackout ATX Mid-Tower
XFX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified
Samsung SH-224DB CD/DVD Reader/Writer
Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-Bit (OEM)
ASUS VS39H-P 23" LED Widescreen IPS
Corsair Raptor K30
Corsair Raptor M40

and I went with the 750W because I want to SLI in the future. The price for this with tax and shipping is under 1400 so that is what I like. But I want to change the keyboard to a mechanical keyboard with cherry mx brown switches so I am going to try to find a deal for that.
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