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June 9, 2014 2:03:54 AM

Hello im going to build a cheap yet fast computer for my mom and sis.

they will mostly just surf the web watch alot of shows/ movies my sis watch all the stuff my mom just surfs the web pays bills etc but is gonna watch movies from it too so shes gonna stream from it to tv via dlna.

my sis plays some games like the sims etc she would play more if she could because atm the comp they have is really crap and lags in everything even just normal web surfing its really old.

so it will be used for mid gaming no new AA titles on ultra graphics as they dont care about it, they just want the games they play to run smooth without lag.

So my question is should i go with the a10-6800k black edition or the a10-7700k black edition idk the real differences whats newer with the apu's.

how big difference is it between an apu like the ones i listed and a fx-6300? in like speed?

like if it needed to add a lower end gpu in 100-200$ class would it be ok with the apu or should i just put the fx- now and get the gpu later when they need?

i heard the new amd apus peform pretty well in games that it can even play new games on low-mid settings on about 30 fps.

and since they wont play any of that only older games and so, so the apu should handle those really well.
June 9, 2014 2:13:04 AM

ill start with the difference between the FX chips and the A10 chips, the first, as you know, is that the A10's are APU's this means that they house the CPU and the GPU in one nice little package, while for budget gaming and standard PC builds this is perfectly fine and can give a decent gaming performance.
for what your mom and sister are going to be using it for though an A10 would probably be a little overboard, especially with only older games like Sims being played, and I would consider a high-end A8 or A6 instead.

In terms of speed the A10-6800k is a 4.1ghz chip while the A10-7700k is a 3.4ghz chip both are quad core meaning both will be equally as good at multi-tasking with the 6800k having the edge in terms of power.
The FX chip is a CPU only chip meaning that your would need a separate graphics cards as well as the CPU itself, the FX is rated at 3.5ghz with a 6 core CPU meaning even better multitasking over the A10's.

as for choosing between the two I would go for the A10-6800k just for that extra boost in performance and also to stop the possibility of a graphics card later on should they move onto newer more CPU stressing games.

if I missed anything let me know!
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June 9, 2014 2:19:43 AM

An APU is basically a CPU and GPU in one if you buy a fx6300 and no GPU you´ll be lagging all over the place (in games) but an APU and a low end GPU can run in dual Graphics and you´ll get some good performance.
-But what is your budget?
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June 9, 2014 2:57:22 AM

The 7700k has a significantly better on-die GPU than the 6800k and while both would meet your requirements, I would recommend the 7700k if you're going the APU route. Also, get ram of at least 1866mhz speed.

And yes, you can add GPU later if you need to.
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June 9, 2014 3:01:53 AM

An APU will be absolutely fine for your use. I recommended an A10-6700 for my dad who plays point-and-click adventure games and he says that the performance is great.

One thing to bear in mind is that the APU line has a different socket to the FX line, so if you buy an APU and then decide against it, you'll also need to replace the motherboard.

Adding a low-end GPU to an APU is a false economy, you won't reap any extra performance in the type of games your sister will play. In day-to-day tasks and basic gaming you won't see any significant difference between an A10 and FX-6300.

For its simplicity and good price/performance ratio, I'd go for an APU. If your budget allows for the 7700K then you may as well get that, but the 6800K will still do a fine job.
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June 9, 2014 3:02:48 AM

I can't stress to you enough to get the 1866 ram if you're going the apu route
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June 9, 2014 4:09:51 AM

bicycle_repair_man said:
An APU will be absolutely fine for your use. I recommended an A10-6700 for my dad who plays point-and-click adventure games and he says that the performance is great.

One thing to bear in mind is that the APU line has a different socket to the FX line, so if you buy an APU and then decide against it, you'll also need to replace the motherboard.

Adding a low-end GPU to an APU is a false economy, you won't reap any extra performance in the type of games your sister will play. In day-to-day tasks and basic gaming you won't see any significant difference between an A10 and FX-6300.

For its simplicity and good price/performance ratio, I'd go for an APU. If your budget allows for the 7700K then you may as well get that, but the 6800K will still do a fine job.


This is the build i have put together is it ok or would you change anything?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6KF84D
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June 9, 2014 4:13:05 AM

For $550 incl OS its pretty good.
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June 9, 2014 4:16:56 AM

i7Baby said:
For $550 incl OS its pretty good.


Yea it will only be used for web surfing, movie watching and some really light gaming.

What is the big difference between the A10-6800k and the A10-7700k?

And the fm2 cpu fits in a fm2+ socket?
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June 9, 2014 4:44:00 AM

vampyiere6 said:
Yea it will only be used for web surfing, movie watching and some really light gaming.

What is the big difference between the A10-6800k and the A10-7700k?

And the fm2 cpu fits in a fm2+ socket?


It's the graphics difference mostly but for light gaming you wouldn't even care, your build is fine. And yes, FM2 fits in FM2+ socket :) 

Edit: Looking at your build, you could get some 2133mhz ram for the same price as the 1866
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June 9, 2014 6:28:01 AM

LucoTF said:
vampyiere6 said:
Yea it will only be used for web surfing, movie watching and some really light gaming.

What is the big difference between the A10-6800k and the A10-7700k?

And the fm2 cpu fits in a fm2+ socket?


It's the graphics difference mostly but for light gaming you wouldn't even care, your build is fine. And yes, FM2 fits in FM2+ socket :) 

Edit: Looking at your build, you could get some 2133mhz ram for the same price as the 1866


i live in finland and from where i buy the 2133 mhz costs about 20 euros more i did just order all the parts that i had listed so i will be getting it in a few days. the apu should be enough for the games they play and they dont play much and its old or non gpu demanding games. and they can play it on low/mid settings they dont care about the graphics aslong its smooth and no lag.

The ssd i only put in for the speed so the computer will be really fast and lags or slow loads etc since they wont install/download much there is no need for big storage and they have a 2tb external for movies etc.

Should be a really good system for the needs
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June 9, 2014 6:43:19 AM

vampyiere6 said:
LucoTF said:
vampyiere6 said:
Yea it will only be used for web surfing, movie watching and some really light gaming.

What is the big difference between the A10-6800k and the A10-7700k?

And the fm2 cpu fits in a fm2+ socket?


It's the graphics difference mostly but for light gaming you wouldn't even care, your build is fine. And yes, FM2 fits in FM2+ socket :) 

Edit: Looking at your build, you could get some 2133mhz ram for the same price as the 1866


i live in finland and from where i buy the 2133 mhz costs about 20 euros more i did just order all the parts that i had listed so i will be getting it in a few days. the apu should be enough for the games they play and they dont play much and its old or non gpu demanding games. and they can play it on low/mid settings they dont care about the graphics aslong its smooth and no lag.

The ssd i only put in for the speed so the computer will be really fast and lags or slow loads etc since they wont install/download much there is no need for big storage and they have a 2tb external for movies etc.

Should be a really good system for the needs


Sounds good, good luck with the build :) 
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June 9, 2014 7:14:06 AM

APU will be fine for the usage you describe - the fast ram isnt even necessary if they arent gaming.
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June 9, 2014 7:17:38 AM

RobCrezz said:
APU will be fine for the usage you describe - the fast ram isnt even necessary if they arent gaming.


it always helps and the 1866mhz was the same price as the 1600mhz so why not : )

i myself too think this is even a little overkill for their needs but my mom is ok with it she just wants it fast with no lags etc and that it will last. i still tried to made it as cheap as possible.
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June 9, 2014 7:20:49 AM

vampyiere6 said:
RobCrezz said:
APU will be fine for the usage you describe - the fast ram isnt even necessary if they arent gaming.


it always helps and the 1866mhz was the same price as the 1600mhz so why not : )

i myself too think this is even a little overkill for their needs but my mom is ok with it she just wants it fast with no lags etc and that it will last. i still tried to made it as cheap as possible.


Yeah if its the same price then go for it. A SSD will be the best thing for it to be quick and responsive in day to day use.
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