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June 9, 2014 5:25:47 AM

Guys I need your help in deciding what to buy...this is the build i have in mind
1. AMD FX 8350 processor
2. ASUS CROSSHAIR V Formula Motherboard
3. Corsair Vengence 4gb X 2
4. Corsair TX 650 V2
5. Segate 1TB internal
6. GPU R9 270 4GB
7. Cooler Master HAF 912 Combat

I will need your suggestions on this...GTX 760ti isnt available in my area..so should I change my GPU to gtx 760..or keep it at R9 270

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June 9, 2014 5:45:10 AM

What is your budget?
Where do you live?
Why do you want an AMD build?
The 270x is better than the 270, and the GTX760 is better than both, then the 280 is better than that and can be had for under $200 USD.
I don't recommend using these FXs because they are old and outdated, but if you do, get the FX8320 instead of the FX8350.
Corsair Vengence RAM is good, but you should get whichever big name RAM is on sale at the time. Don't limit yourself. Same thing with the psu. That is a fine psu, but there may be a better option when the time comes for you to buy.

Are you familiar with pc.partpicker.com?


Here are your parts

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/FXsLwP
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/FXsLwP/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/FXsLwP/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($174.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($224.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($75.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.92 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 270 2GB Dual-X Video Card ($152.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($85.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $817.84
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-09 08:49 EDT-0400)


and here is a better bang for buck

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/rqqmFT
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/rqqmFT/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/rqqmFT/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($149.29 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($224.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: A-Data XPG V1.0 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.92 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($200.00 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $806.17
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-09 08:51 EDT-0400)
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June 9, 2014 8:38:43 AM

I would go with this over the AMD rigs.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($89.66 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Xtreem Dark Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.92 @ Amazon)
Video Card: HIS Radeon R9 280X 3GB IceQ X² Video Card ($264.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair SPEC-01 RED ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ TigerDirect)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Micro Center)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $787.51
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-09 11:37 EDT-0400)
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June 9, 2014 8:40:57 AM

CTurbo said:
What is your budget?
Where do you live?
Why do you want an AMD build?
The 270x is better than the 270, and the GTX760 is better than both, then the 280 is better than that and can be had for under $200 USD.
I don't recommend using these FXs because they are old and outdated, but if you do, get the FX8320 instead of the FX8350.
Corsair Vengence RAM is good, but you should get whichever big name RAM is on sale at the time. Don't limit yourself. Same thing with the psu. That is a fine psu, but there may be a better option when the time comes for you to buy.

Are you familiar with pc.partpicker.com?


Here are your parts

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/FXsLwP
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/FXsLwP/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/FXsLwP/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($174.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($224.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($75.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.92 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 270 2GB Dual-X Video Card ($152.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($85.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $817.84
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-09 08:49 EDT-0400)


and here is a better bang for buck

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/rqqmFT
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/rqqmFT/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/rqqmFT/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($149.29 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($224.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: A-Data XPG V1.0 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.92 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($200.00 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $806.17
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-09 08:51 EDT-0400)


My budget will be around this only..dont have much of a fixed budget..its flexible..
I am from India..
these are the almost all the products that are available here..http://mdcomputers.in/
dont think 280 is available..
I as thinking of using the FX as the processing speed is much higher than the intel and also I heard a lot from my friends that the amd processor is much better in terms for value for money..
thats why i wanted to try out an amd build...
so you mean ram are almost same..i thought the heatsink will make a difference...
the shop told me tx 650 is discontinued and the have started cs 650m and its same..
thanks for the pc.partpicker.com but they wont be delivering it to my country so i will need to choose from my country sites like flipkart.com and snapdeal.com
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June 9, 2014 8:45:23 AM

logainofhades said:
I would go with this over the AMD rigs.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($89.66 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Xtreem Dark Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.92 @ Amazon)
Video Card: HIS Radeon R9 280X 3GB IceQ X² Video Card ($264.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair SPEC-01 RED ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ TigerDirect)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Micro Center)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $787.51
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-09 11:37 EDT-0400)


Just wanted to ask the amd has 4ghz while the intel has 3.3ghz and also I can overclock the amd so shouldnt the amd be better than the intel..
i know overclocking will need better cooling and preferably a liquid cooler..but I dont get that option with the intel..
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June 9, 2014 8:48:13 AM

Intel does more per clock than AMD. Clock speed isn't everything.
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June 9, 2014 3:48:14 PM

No you cannot compare the clock speeds of AMD and Intel directly. Intel's cores are WAY WAY WAY stronger and it is not even close. Intel's 3.3ghz will be something like 50% stronger than AMD's 4.0ghz. That is NOT an exaggeration.


logainofhades' i5 build is WAY better than the AMD builds.
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June 9, 2014 6:10:15 PM

so you guys think its better to go for an i5 build rather than amd..?
but the benchmarking tests shows amd pc are better than i5...
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June 9, 2014 6:16:27 PM

There are only a handful of benchmarks that favor the AMD out of hundreds of benchmarks. The i5 is faster +90% of the time.

So yes. It's much better to go with a new i5 build.
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June 9, 2014 6:20:37 PM

Go with an I5 build unless the 8320 cpu allow you to get a stronger gpu.
Don't get a Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z that thing is way overprice get somthing like the Asrock fatal1ty 990fx killer.
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June 9, 2014 7:54:03 PM

CTurbo said:
There are only a handful of benchmarks that favor the AMD out of hundreds of benchmarks. The i5 is faster +90% of the time.

So yes. It's much better to go with a new i5 build.


ok thanks so I am going for i5 4th generation then..
so which motherboard options should I go for..if i want a motherboard with quite a number of extra ports...
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June 9, 2014 7:55:10 PM

Znoxz said:
Go with an I5 build unless the 8320 cpu allow you to get a stronger gpu.
Don't get a Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z that thing is way overprice get somthing like the Asrock fatal1ty 990fx killer.


you are also using an 8320..what are your view on using it..?
does it really heat up a lot..?
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June 9, 2014 8:02:28 PM

blood_demon said:
CTurbo said:
There are only a handful of benchmarks that favor the AMD out of hundreds of benchmarks. The i5 is faster +90% of the time.

So yes. It's much better to go with a new i5 build.


ok thanks so I am going for i5 4th generation then..
so which motherboard options should I go for..if i want a motherboard with quite a number of extra ports...


blood_demon said:
Znoxz said:
Go with an I5 build unless the 8320 cpu allow you to get a stronger gpu.
Don't get a Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z that thing is way overprice get somthing like the Asrock fatal1ty 990fx killer.


you are also using an 8320..what are your view on using it..?
does it really heat up a lot..?

I use the 8350 which is basically an oc 8320. It a great cpu and won't bottleneck any card. It doesn't run hot my 8350 stay at 45c on a hyper 212 or 55c on the stock cooler. In gaming gpu is more important then cpu so if buying a cheaper 8320 allow you to buy a better gpu then get that if not then go I5
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June 9, 2014 8:49:24 PM

Znoxz said:

I use the 8350 which is basically an oc 8320. It a great cpu and won't bottleneck any card. It doesn't run hot my 8350 stay at 45c on a hyper 212 or 55c on the stock cooler. In gaming gpu is more important then cpu so if buying a cheaper 8320 allow you to buy a better gpu then get that if not then go I5


I will also be going for a gaming cpu...i checked up now and most of videos in youtube showed the benchmark in games the frame rate in i5 is much higher than 8350...
you are playing games so does it really drop to low frames..i am using an i3 now so i dont know much about amd gaming experience...
and about your gpu..how do you rate it..
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June 9, 2014 8:55:07 PM

blood_demon said:
Znoxz said:

I use the 8350 which is basically an oc 8320. It a great cpu and won't bottleneck any card. It doesn't run hot my 8350 stay at 45c on a hyper 212 or 55c on the stock cooler. In gaming gpu is more important then cpu so if buying a cheaper 8320 allow you to buy a better gpu then get that if not then go I5


I will also be going for a gaming cpu...i checked up now and most of videos in youtube showed the benchmark in games the frame rate in i5 is much higher than 8350...
you are playing games so does it really drop to low frames..i am using an i3 now so i dont know much about amd gaming experience...
and about your gpu..how do you rate it..

I use a 280x most of the time the frame different between the 8350 and I5 is 5-10 fps and that is over 60fps.
The big factor deciding how much fps you get is your gpu.
My setup is an oc 8350 and oc 280x I get 60fps no drop on most game high-ultra setting depending on the game.
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June 9, 2014 9:14:59 PM

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I use a 280x most of the time the frame different between the 8350 and I5 is 5-10 fps and that is over 60fps.
The big factor deciding how much fps you get is your gpu.
My setup is an oc 8350 and oc 280x I get 60fps no drop on most game high-ultra setting depending on the game.
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if you check out this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26UKz42uQ1Y
the person shows quite a lot of frame rate difference between i5 and 8350...while the benchmark testing shows 8350 due to 8 core works better..

and about gpu..
which do you think is better in R9 270 4gb/2gb and GTX 760..
and if I go with the 280 which one should i choose from these
http://mdcomputers.in/sapphire-graphics-card-r9-280-3gb...
http://mdcomputers.in/asus-graphics-card-r9-280x-dc2-to...
http://mdcomputers.in/sapphire-graphics-card-r9-280x-3g...

there are quite a lot of variants and cards are costly in our country due to taxes so 30% extra I will need to pay..
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June 12, 2014 4:06:58 AM

Anyways guys thanks a lot...I went with my original one as I needed some extra cash for some cooling equipment..
Thanks
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June 12, 2014 11:55:09 AM

blood_demon said:
Anyways guys thanks a lot...I went with my original one as I needed some extra cash for some cooling equipment..
Thanks

I would at least get a cheap 990fx motherboard again the Crosshair V is really over price and use the extra money to get a 280 or 760.
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June 12, 2014 8:22:23 PM

Znoxz said:
blood_demon said:
Anyways guys thanks a lot...I went with my original one as I needed some extra cash for some cooling equipment..
Thanks

I would at least get a cheap 990fx motherboard again the Crosshair V is really over price and use the extra money to get a 280 or 760.


I got the Crosshair V quite cheap..the prices in India are quite messed up..due to extra amount of taxes..so what may be cheaper is actually costly..
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June 12, 2014 8:24:08 PM

solid build man but I still think the Corsair Vengeance is overrated.
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June 12, 2014 8:57:21 PM

Fidgetmaster said:
solid build man but I still think the Corsair Vengeance is overrated.


I know its overrated but the place where I am staying the temperatures are rising each day due to global warming..so kind of thought the heat sink will atleast help to keep my ram cool...
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June 12, 2014 9:05:50 PM

blood_demon said:
Fidgetmaster said:
solid build man but I still think the Corsair Vengeance is overrated.


I know its overrated but the place where I am staying the temperatures are rising each day due to global warming..so kind of thought the heat sink will atleast help to keep my ram cool...

The sabertooth or the killer would work just fine but if you got the crosshair v for a cheap price then it fine it still a good board. Can you get a cheaper 280 3gb or 760 2gb over the 270 4gb.

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June 12, 2014 10:14:17 PM

I bought the sabertooth and then cancelled my order as I found the formula was cheaper than sabertooth..i know its strange but I just grabbed the opportunity..
nopes all the graphics cards are just too costly...
cant find a normal priced..so 280 is out of the question as the pricing is too much here..
also i found that 4gb is useless unless I am using more than 1080p and more than 1 monitor..
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June 12, 2014 10:45:03 PM

blood_demon said:
I bought the sabertooth and then cancelled my order as I found the formula was cheaper than sabertooth..i know its strange but I just grabbed the opportunity..
nopes all the graphics cards are just too costly...
cant find a normal priced..so 280 is out of the question as the pricing is too much here..
also i found that 4gb is useless unless I am using more than
1080p and more than 1 monitor..

How about the 7950,760 or 670.
If not I would save some money and get the 2gb version of the 270.
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June 12, 2014 11:03:35 PM

I was going to do a hot-rodded AMD build like that...but got/settled for a more mild AMD build, being I'm finally getting my old Rampage II board RMAed/fixed and see about slapping a Xeon x5650 on it and see if it works haha, not to be hijacking this... being Intel and all you know haha.
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June 12, 2014 11:38:12 PM

Fidgetmaster said:
I was going to do a hot-rodded AMD build like that...but got/settled for a more mild AMD build, being I'm finally getting my old Rampage II board RMAed/fixed and see about slapping a Xeon x5650 on it and see if it works haha, not to be hijacking this... being Intel and all you know haha.


Well atleast AMD doesnt go on changing so fast rather than Intel..:) 
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June 12, 2014 11:47:40 PM

I know right? haha I really really want that Xeon to work though it might...it might not basically haha.
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June 12, 2014 11:48:26 PM

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Well atleast AMD doesnt go on changing so fast rather than Intel..:) 



Umm...... that's not a good thing. The current AMDs are 2 years old, and performance wise, AMD is right about where they were 4 years ago. Intel improves a little every year. That's why I can't recommend any of the FXs anymore. AMD needs new material in a hurry.
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June 12, 2014 11:52:20 PM

Lets Face it man AMD has always been X amount of years behind Intel haha.
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June 12, 2014 11:58:57 PM

I don't know about that... My Phenom x6 1055t was a lot better than the equally priced i5s back then. I feel like AMD has given up now. Bulldozer was bold move but ultimately a failure. Piledriver made all the best improvements that could be made, but there's nothing there of value. Now. They need to start from scratch and concentrate on efficiency.



blood_demon, logainofhades i5 build up top is WAY better than any of the AMD builds on this page. It's considerably more future proof too.
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June 13, 2014 12:27:27 AM

Yeah now/after Bulldozer/piledriver AMD better pull something out of their ass soon to get much closer to actually compete haha.
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June 13, 2014 12:50:58 AM

I agree i5 build is good but the socket type of AMD doesnt change fast so I will be able to upgrade to a better processor after 2years with the same motherboard..
so that way its much beneficial..and getting a motherboard like formula V at a very cheap price I cant resist AMD..
I dont know about the price but its around 100$ cheaper than the original market price so I am quite happy..and product is 100% genuine..may be they giving it off at a reduced price due to increased stocks..
well whatever the price both are coming to its really cheap for me and I can invest the extra money and go for some other accessories...
when steamroller will be coming out it will be a good boost to AMD and after the money they get from intel
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Intel-Ordereed-to-Pay-AM...
they are sure to use it in R&D
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June 13, 2014 1:11:37 AM

That article is/was totally true they really were actually closer at that time it was a Battle haha. and you know it just sounds like something Intel would do haha
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June 13, 2014 1:19:20 AM

Fidgetmaster said:
That article is/was totally true they really were actually closer at that time it was Battle haha. and you know it just sounds like something Intel would do haha


yup...Intel always have tried to control everything..and thats why many small small manufacturers all faded away..
they use money earned from their sales to do such work..and thats why their prices are always so high..
AMD started their battle and was reaching close to them when they used such dirty tricks to go above them and leave them far behind..
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June 13, 2014 6:21:38 AM

blood_demon said:
I agree i5 build is good but the socket type of AMD doesnt change fast so I will be able to upgrade to a better processor after 2years with the same motherboard..


AM3+ is dead. AMD is not releasing any new chips for it. You are no better off with upgrade options than I am on 1155. What is available now is all you will be able to get. We have 1150 for at least another year and half or so, as Broadwell will be 1150. You just need an H97/z97 chipset for it.
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June 13, 2014 7:53:28 AM

May be you are right...but I have already ordered the 8350 and formula V...so cant change...
anyways atleast if I can run for 2 3 years it will be ok....and that much I am sure I will be able to do...
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June 13, 2014 10:07:45 AM

True but still its kinda Bad for AMD right now... AM3+ being really really dead is not good...AMD is basically still where they were at 4-5 years ago haha. They should do something Bold/innovative like Steamroller for AM3+ haha. That's not gonna happen though. Bulldozer is still tough in its own right but like others said it is still just lacking and behind and ultimately a failure as far doing anything with it.
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June 13, 2014 11:11:27 AM

Fidgetmaster said:
True but still its kinda Bad for AMD right now... AM3+ being really really dead is not good...AMD is basically still where they were at 4-5 years ago haha. They should do something Bold/innovative like Steamroller for AM3+ haha. That's not gonna happen though. Bulldozer is still tough in its own right but like others said it is still just lacking and behind and ultimately a failure as far doing anything with it.


you never know what may come up in the future...
and its not really lacking behind if you compare the price and performance its really not bad...
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June 13, 2014 11:34:40 AM

Intel are better right now we all know that but amd cpu are not bad the 83xx cpu should't bottleneck any gpu unless for muti sli 780ti. Im pretty sure am3+ is dead but considering ddr4 ram are coming out in 2015 there is a chance amd will update the socket and start producing ddr4 motherboard but this is only speculation. Only reason 3 reason to go amd it either
A. You hate intel businesses practice like me and want to support amd.
B. Your building a low end build with the x4 750k or FX 6300.
C. The amd cpu are cheap enough to allow you to buy a better gpu.
Seen the FX 8320 go on sale for $130 before really good deal.
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June 13, 2014 7:26:46 PM

Well you can include both reason A and C...so I am going with AMD and my processor and motherboard also arrived..
ddr 4 ram will have too much premium at start and we have ddr 3 ram at the starting speed of ddr4 now also but very few people go and purchase it...
we dont purchase as we dont really need such high ram..
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