ingtar33 :
nope.
not with that cpu it won't. at those resolutions your system is 100% bottlenecked by your cpu. Getting a new gpu won't help with that. furthermore i3s and other dual core cpus really-really-really struggle in watchdogs.
What if I upgrade to a Core i5-2550K but no overclock? I can get a brand new 2550K for $150. The 3570K still run for $200, while the 4670K (which requires a new motherboard) is $230 in my country. Each K and non-K difference is only $5. That $80 difference could be used for a better graphics card. I also have no concerns of power savings, electricity is cheap enough. And I think my 500W Seasonic PSU can handle the higher TDP of stock-clock quad-core Sandy.
My board is H67, which doesn't support any kind of OC. Will a Sandy i5 at stock speed enable me to max Watch Dogs with R9-270X?
Danbuscus25 :
no, it will not run on ultra, more like medium-high. the only way to get ultra would be to upgrade the cpu to an i5 or i7. also, sky lake probly wont come out next year, but if it does, it will be super expensive, you are better off upgrading to broadwell next year.
I don't think upgrading to Broadwell
next year will be a good decision, it will be a dying platform just a year after it's released. I think upgrading to Broadwell will only make sense if I'm now on a low-end Haswell CPU. From what I read on these forums, it makes no sense to upgrade a quad-core K processor Sandy to Broadwell, as the performance increase will only be 15% per generation. From Sandy to Broadwell, performance increase will only be around 50%, which is easily achievable if I overclock a 3.4Ghz Sandy i5-2550K to 5Ghz. Of course, if I OC the Broadwell chip to 5Ghz, that means it's a 100% increase in performance from a stock Sandy i5. But, who needs that kind of firepower at this time?
PandaButtonFTW :
The card will probably play on ultra at that res9 maybe not in your system though) but you might have to turn down AA a bit, 2xmsaa isn't much difference visually than 8x. but your cpu will be the big bottleneck, if you can upgrade to a sandy quad core DO it. and 8gb ram is fine
After all the great answers here, I'm very inclined to upgrade to a quad core Sandy or Ivy Bridge.
I aim for Ultra for this purchase mainly for (short term) future proofing: if I buy a card that can't run the first next-gen game on Ultra, what hope do I have for the games that are coming in a couple of months time?
Danbuscus25 :
no, that card will NOT run on ultra at that resolution, maybe high with AA turned down.
What card will run Watch Dogs on Ultra at 768p, if I upgrade my CPU to an quad-core Sandy?
PandaButtonFTW :
That is a pretty low res, with even 2xmsaa I almost guarantee it will play on ultra, with a cpu upgrade ofcourse
Danbuscus25 :
its just 1 step under 1080p, its 720p.
PandaButtonFTW :
and that step is a quarter less pixels... and its more like 2 steps
I actually did the calculations:
1920x1080 = 2,073,600 pixels
1360x768 = 1,044,480 pixels
768p is 50.37% of 1080p.
Is it safe to assume that a card that do 30fps minimum at 1080p will run 60fps on 768p?
anthony8989 :
At 720p the i3 + 270x will be fine. This is coming from someone who has actually owned an i3-2100 and tested it back to back with a GTX 770 + i5-2500k. You will get a 10-15% increase in FPS by switching to even the lowest end 2nd / 3rd gen i5. Which really only comes into effect during benchmark scenarios. And is hardly noticeable in actual gaming scenarios.
But like I said initially, at 720p you'll be fine with an i3 + 270x.
However if you decide go go to 4k , be prepared to overhaul your CPU and GPU. Benchmarks show that to run current and next gen games at even medium - high settings , you would need at least SLI GTX 780ti's or an R9-295x2 + an i7 to facilitate a proper gaming experience.
Are you saying that with a Sandy i3 and 270X, I would be able to max Watch Dogs? The post above this says that a dual core won't cut it.
I probably won't buy a 4K monitor in the near future, at least not until the price falls into to under $250 for a 27" 4K monitor (which probably gonna be some time in 2016 at the soonest). And buy the time 4K monitors are affordable, Skylake will be out and the graphics card will have double the performance in the same price point. So hopefully I'll spend $500 in 2016/2017 for a single GPU card that has the performance of today's R9-295X2.
ferooxidan :
Dude, just buy PS4, close visual quality to PC unless the game is modded. Also for 4K display, there exist no single gpu powerful enough to run modern games at 60 fps on 4K. might as well wait till there exist single gpu powerful to run any games on 4K, by then 4K display will have price roughly the same as 1080p display now I believe.
Haha, I'm actually gonna buy a PS4 next month, just for the sole purpose of playing FIFA 15 with my friends. And for The Last of Us and Metal Gear Solid V.
That said, I prefer to play single player games with a PC.
photonboy :
1) *Watch Dogs on PC is currently being fixed to sort out the problem of MAJOR STUTTER due to the Video RAM being filled up, even if you 3GB.
2) 4K gaming makes no sense. 2560x1440 looks almost identical but gets 2x the frame rate. Now getting a 4K monitor DOES make sense if not much more expensive than 2560x1440 monitors but don't play games at that resolution.
3) G-SYNC monitors:
If you're investing heavily in a gaming PC you should be getting the upcoming G-Sync Asus Swift (27", 2560x1440) or similar at some point. G-Sync seriously is awesome.
4) Skylake:
Modern Intel CPU's are pretty much overkill for most games. DDR3 is plenty fast enough as well. We'll eventually need fast DDR4 but not for a long time.
So my point is there's really no point waiting for Skylake if you have the money now. Get an i5-4690K or i7-4790K with a good Z97 motherboard, Noctua cooler and overclock to 5Hz or so.
Summary:
- Watch Dogs is awesome but wait for the patch that fixes the Video memory issue causing stutter
- 4K monitors are great; gaming at 4K is stupid (unless you can game at 4K at Max quality/60FPS)
- G-Sync rocks.
- New Haswell CPU's are great (i.e i7-4790K @5GHz)
1) I didn't know that. Thanks for the information. I'll wait until the game is patched properly.
2)
Right now I'm fairly content with 720p for games. I'm gonna upgrade to a 4K mainly for the increased workspace in Windows, not for the sole purpose of gaming. You make a valid point on gaming in 1440p. But by the time I buy a 4K display, hopefully first-tier ($500) single GPU cards will be powerful enough to play 4K in 60fps.
OR I could buy a 2560x1440 monitor the time Skylake is released and save some money for the graphics card by buying a mainstream enthusiast card (~$300) at that time.
3) I've never seen G-Sync in action, but I'm guessing it's awesome. Although, right now, I'm not planning to upgrade my monitor.
4)
At this moment, I don't think it's wise for me to also change motherboard AND processor. Because that means I would have to buy a motherboard, a CPU and a graphics card. Essentially a new system. I'm planning to hold on to my PC until Skylake. I'm content with the plan, because I'm expecting to buy a board in a "tock" cycle, so I can still use the board if I need to upgrade to Cannonlake. Z97 is only destined for 1.5 to 2 years of shelf life, until Skylake is released.
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THANK YOU ALL FOR THE ANSWERS.
Please continue the discussion, because we haven't found what card will play Watch Dogs on Ultra at 768p with a Core i5 Sandy/Ivy processor.
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