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June 10, 2014 3:03:25 AM

Hey everyone!

I need help because im upgrading my Desktop soon, so here i go:

This power supply fits in my case? XFX Pro 650W Core Edition

This Graphic card fits in my case? Radeon HD 4870 X2

My case : http://www.asus.com/Desktops/M51AC/

Im more afraid of the Power supply, I dont know if it really fits, the graphic card i think it fits well.

Thank you everyone :D 

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June 10, 2014 3:48:20 AM

From what i can find is that case an atx case so should the psu fit with no problems.

The same for the gpu,it seems to have a lot of room in the underside.
This one i think?
http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/img/pcw/docs/610/182/h05....
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June 10, 2014 4:38:32 AM

Yes is that one, you think that power supply fits well? and the graphic card?

Thank you for your help
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June 10, 2014 4:50:34 AM

Btw heres my system specs:


Intel® Core™ i5-4430S (6M Cache, up to 3.20 GHz)


6GB DDR3 1600MHz

HD:
1TB SATA 7200 rpm

NVIDIA® GeForce GT625 2GB

Im chaging the Graphic card because this one its not good for gaming, not good really!

So i think the only problem is the graphic card , so that why im upgrading, im correct?


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June 10, 2014 4:55:31 AM

The psu should fit fine as i already told you.
You could power your system with just the 550watt version of that psu btw.

The 4870x2 is only a DX10 card so do you really want that?
Do you have other options?
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June 10, 2014 5:10:35 AM

Is it that bad? I can play new games I think, not in maximum graphics but medium i think no?

Thank you for your help :D 
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June 10, 2014 6:40:46 AM

Well bad??? Not per se,but most games support DX11 by now and would give better graphics because of that when run on a DX11 card.
From what i read does for instance watchdogs not run on DX10 cards,altough there seems to be a work around.I had a problem with BF3 with DX10 cards,don't know if that's solved,i just got a DX11 card.

What other options do you have in the same price range?
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June 10, 2014 11:05:11 AM

I want a medium/High graphic card around 200 €/£

From now, i will get that ATI because a person will give it to me so, if you can recomend me a good one i will buy it in the mid of the summer, but for now i will keep that ATI, so a PSU upgrade is good so when i buy the new graphic card it will be better

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June 10, 2014 12:33:39 PM

M05K said:


From now, i will get that ATI because a person will give it to me

That's different,i thought you were buying it.


M05K said:

so, if you can recomend me a good one i will buy it in the mid of the summer

The r9 270X is about that price,but it depends on the country you live in.Here in Holland i can get a R9 280 for under €200 and by that time maybe even a gtx 760.You probably will have to look at these three by that time.



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so a PSU upgrade is good

It is.
Maybe a new case for better ventilation,that card runs hot,but you could first try with your current case.

With going from nvidia to amd will you have to thoroughly get rid of the nvidia drivers before installing the amd ones,with the next two programs should you be able to do that,
http://www.guru3d.com/files_details/display_driver_unin...
or
http://treexy.com/products/driver-fusion
use these in safe mode for the best results.The first will ask to restart in safe mode for the removal.
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June 10, 2014 12:49:39 PM

I will buy another graphic card later in this summer, i will see the prices, if it is around 200€ i probably will get one but my PCI-E is 2.0 i think.

Btw, like when i play DayZ i get low FPS's i think its due to my graphic card because its not good, my Intel® Core™ i5-4430S (6M Cache, up to 3.20 GHz) its good I think, the only problem in my Desktop its the Graphic Card, i already saw some things on the internet saying GT 625 its like a laptop graphic card in a Desktop.

What do you think? Its really a graphic card problem? That why im upgrading my Desktop, to get better fps's.
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June 10, 2014 12:59:42 PM

M05K said:
200€ i probably will get one but my PCI-E is 2.0 i think.

That shouldn't give problems with newer 3,0 cards.


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What do you think? Its really a graphic card problem?

I think it is.The hd 4870x2 should be a good improvement.Your cpu is good enougfh for some time,don't worry about that one.
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June 10, 2014 1:07:13 PM

Correction : it supports PCI Express Version Supported: 3.0

Saw it on HWiNFO64
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June 10, 2014 1:20:58 PM

M05K said:
Correction : it supports PCI Express Version Supported: 3.0


Even better. ;) 
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June 10, 2014 1:23:22 PM

Yea, btw I saw on the internet i can remove the graphic drivers in the windows without any software, but you gave me that softwares so i think its better right? To do it in that way

I wanna thank you again, you're really helping me :D 
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June 10, 2014 1:46:16 PM

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btw I saw on the internet i can remove the graphic drivers in the windows without any software,

That's true,but it would be a good idea to check with the first program to see if there were leftovers.It's still a good idea to do it in safe mode.

And you're welcome.:D 
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June 10, 2014 2:06:31 PM

So all I need to do is put the new PSU, the graphic card and install the drivers and im ready to go, no modifications needed in bios if im right
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June 10, 2014 2:13:50 PM

Yes indeed.
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June 12, 2014 10:57:27 AM

Hi again Vic, btw the PSU fan will need to be faced down correct?
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June 12, 2014 12:52:14 PM

From what i remember is the psu placed at the top in your case so yes it will have to face downwards.It needs to be able to suck air in.
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June 13, 2014 7:06:57 AM

Can I ask you where you saw my case in an ATX one?
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June 13, 2014 1:05:44 PM

Im sorry Vic, but I cant see where is "ATX" in that page, tried to find out, because I afraid if the PSU doesn't fit there, but you said it will, because i will buy by order not in a local shop
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June 13, 2014 3:03:45 PM

It doesn't literally say that.I look a the case and it's size and say that's an atx case,The psu should fit.
Looked again at different pictures and to me does it look oké.
It's up to you to trust me or not.

You could give me measurements of the psu that is in it.Taken from the side of where you look at it from the back of the case,
height/width/depth.
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June 17, 2014 11:19:19 AM

Im not opening my Desktop right now, only when I have all the equipment because my Desktop is still on warranty, I take the measurements outside of the box and I have the correctly height/width/depth I think, like you said its an ATX box so it should fit correctly.

Btw, I hope the process is like Plug & Play, this is not my first time I change some parts of my desktop, but this time, Im changing it more. Like the PSU , Graphic Card and more RAM.
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June 17, 2014 1:03:15 PM

M05K said:
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Btw, I hope the process is like Plug & Play, .

The psu yes.
The other parts also,but they depend on drivers too to work optimal and you probably know that.
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June 17, 2014 2:27:48 PM

Yea, im only going to put more 1 RAM (4gb) and the graphic card which requires the drivers I think that's all right?
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June 18, 2014 12:50:58 PM

M05K said:
Im not opening my Desktop right now, only when I have all the equipment because my Desktop is still on warranty, I take the measurements outside of the box and I have the correctly height/width/depth I think .

For the measuremenst of the psu,


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150 (width) × 86 (height) × 140 mm (depth) (5.9 × 3.4 × 5.5 in)

From here,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATX
The depth may wary a little,just make sure that the cables fit between the psu and the dvd drive,maybe even put that drive one place lower so you could stash some cables on top of it if it's possible.


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Yea, im only going to put more 1 RAM (4gb) and the graphic card which requires the drivers.I think that's all right?

Yes.For the ram,if the motherboard and o.s. support it also yes.Make sure it runs on the same speed.timings and voltage as the one you already got.Check that with cpu-z.
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June 24, 2014 6:56:07 AM

Hi Vic!

Do you think the hd 4870x2 will fit in my case?

Thank you =D
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June 24, 2014 1:06:15 PM

I can't say for sure,but when this is the inside of that case you'd probably be fine.
http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/img/pcw/docs/610/182/h05....
There's a lot of space in the lower end where the gpu will be.You could measure ti and compare it to the specs of the card.
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June 27, 2014 5:33:32 AM

I saw something about flashing Graphic Card, http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/hd-4870-x2-bi...

I dont need to flash anything right? Just plug the Graphic card, PSU and install the drivers right? I'm going to assemble my new equipment on next Wednesday or Friday.
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June 28, 2014 3:29:29 AM

If the card works fine is there absolutly no need to flash the bios.Yes just install the card and psu and when the pc is running fine install the drivers.
For the latest drivers for that gpu look here,
http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
system=desktop
product family=radeon hd series
product=radeon 4xxx series
o.s.=yours to pick
->step 5
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July 1, 2014 2:02:00 PM

I cant play basic games with this GT 625 card. Like Sniper Ghost Warrior, Payday 2 etc...

I think the problem its only on the graphic card, hope im correct
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July 2, 2014 1:37:57 PM

Hi Vic do you use any Antistatic wrist strap when you change something internal on your computer?
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July 3, 2014 1:22:24 PM

I personally don't no.Just make sure you don't wear anything that easily gives static charge like wool or fleece (things like that) and before starting discharge yourself by touching something bear metal or the ground pins in a wallsocket.Or even work on your socks.
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July 7, 2014 6:59:29 AM

Hi Vic

When Im going to put the new graphic card like you said I need to:

1 - Remove the old graphic card drivers;
2 - Put the New PSU;
3 - Put the new graphicc card and connect it with the power cables;

4 - Put the DVI cable on the graphic card? (The monitor will be able to put image without the drivers? (That's my question));
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July 7, 2014 7:13:29 AM

Install the card first if you are worried.

You could install the card without uninstalling the driver first if you wanted but the primary concern is that with it being a 4xxx card that there might be driver issues and you can't install a new driver until the card is installed.

Windows has basic drivers. Just make sure that you download the video card driver before you uninstall the old video card's driver since it will be hard to browse the web without the video card driver installed.

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For the latest drivers for that gpu look here,
http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
system=desktop
product family=radeon hd series
product=radeon 4xxx series
o.s.=yours to pick
->step 5
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July 7, 2014 7:59:00 AM

Steps 1->4 seems to be right.Like pondering says has windows standard drivers on which the card will work.It might be better to use vga->vga if gpu and monitor both have it untill drivers are installed.

Remove the drivers in safe mode.You could use one of the next for it or just via programs and parts or device manager,
http://www.guru3d.com/files_details/display_driver_unin...
or
http://treexy.com/products/driver-fusion
if you remove via the device manager or programs and .. could you use these to scan for bits of the drivers that are left behind.
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July 7, 2014 9:56:56 AM

I'll have tou use an adapter, VGA>DVI, because my monitor is VGA and the graphic card is DVI, what do you think?
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July 7, 2014 10:04:37 AM

That will be fine.
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July 7, 2014 10:22:56 AM

What do you recommend me to do? Remove the drivers with the programs you gave me or in device manager?

So I need to put the monitor connected to the graphic card right? Not on the onboard graphics?
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July 7, 2014 10:37:45 AM

M05K said:
What do you recommend me to do? Remove the drivers with the programs you gave me or in device manager?

via the device manager (uninstall) would be fine,i would scan for remains after that with for instance ddu (=guru3d).


M05K said:

So I need to put the monitor connected to the graphic card right? Not on the onboard graphics?

Yes,connect it to the 4870x2,not the onboard.
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July 7, 2014 10:46:45 AM

You would scan if which program? Sorry
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July 7, 2014 10:53:03 AM

How do I scan in that program? It only have 3 options
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July 7, 2014 11:11:44 AM

You choose the third option,

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uninstal the current and previous drivers and shutdown the computer with no rescan (for installing a new gpu)

Make sure you selected (but probably is already done) the right drivers to uninstall= nvidia or amd.
When the system has shutdown can you take it of the power and change the gpu and psu.
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July 7, 2014 2:27:16 PM

I will remove my drivers with that program, i'll not use the windows driver remover then
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July 8, 2014 1:17:44 PM

Okay,it will ask to restart in safe mode to do it as good as possible,do this.
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September 6, 2014 11:59:51 AM

Hello Vic, im getting an r9 280, it's good in this time? Because other gpu's are already release
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September 6, 2014 1:51:00 PM

Yes that's a good gpu,it's about equal to the gtx 760.Read some reviews.

The next time better start a new thread,this one was already solved and i might have stopped tracking it. ;) 
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