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June 10, 2014 8:56:11 AM

Well i have arranged money for ps4 but i was thinking that ps4 doesnt supports backwards compatiblity like ps3/2 games.
so pc can play both games.help me to choose what.budget would be 500$.
Pc specs:-
Intel core i3 4130
Geforce GTX 650 ti
4gb ram
dont know about other things
anyway tell me will this be enough to play next gen games on 1280x1024 thats my final resolution.

More about : buy ps4

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June 10, 2014 9:01:57 AM

You won't find many console fanboys on this site.
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June 10, 2014 9:24:02 AM

ali saqib said:
Well i have arranged money for ps4 but i was thinking that ps4 doesnt supports backwards compatiblity like ps3/2 games.
so pc can play both games.help me to choose what.budget would be 500$.
Pc specs:-
Intel core i3 4130
Geforce GTX 650 ti
4gb ram
dont know about other things
anyway tell me will this be enough to play next gen games on 1280x1024 thats my final resolution.


Got more friends which play with you, that plays on console, get a console.
You invite friends or family members to visit often to play, get a console.
You like sports games, racing games, games that play better with controller, get a console.

If you have more PC gaming friends, get a PC.
Also if most of above is wrong, then get a PC.

I think you would still need better Graphic Card, to play Next Gen games on Ultra at good frames at that resolution.

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June 10, 2014 9:33:51 AM

Never had a console and never will. It's no better than an OEM computer, actually as crappy as OEM computers are I would take one over a console. Atleast it can still sort of be upgraded and even with weaker parts it's still more powerful than a console. PC graphics are better, CPU is better and you can do what you want with it not what Microsoft or Sony tells you, you can do with it.
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June 10, 2014 9:43:13 AM

I have a console - and i would say both.
Arguments - Simple for pc - cheaper games, better collection of games online, more wide spread.
Arguments - PS4/PS3 - I cant excactly for ps4 as i do not have it but i will try: You have party chat fixed in, being able to be more social in games. Pc tends to have raging chats, The games you buy - simply just WORK out of the box. One thing i found frustrating about pc, is when you buy games for certain programs *cough* uplay *cough*, servers has a lot of downtime, games doesnt work or has a lot of bugs. Fixed in the console. everything simply works or doesnt work for everybody.
It is smaller than a simple pc, being able to fit under your tv, in the living room, pretty much anywhere with a flat surface.
It has no upgradability(other than hard drives and ssds) so you will be stuck for a generation with the same performance. Thats a lot of time, and i often experience bad gameplay because of old ps3 hardware.

My opinion on what you should get:
If you already have a pc and are worried about being able to run stuff, get a console.
If you are aware of all the risks of gaming on a pc(not really risks but i hope you understand) and know excactly what you are doing to fix the problems, you should probably get a pc. Has cheap games and full upgradeability.
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June 10, 2014 9:49:23 AM

if you are deep lover of PS4 games, then go for it. but if , you want play both platform games then go for PC. the most important aspect before purhase
1. Cool & quiet
2. need Best cooler for CPU.
3. Graphic card (really most important and games depend on graphic card) and overclocking , cooling and go for Nvidia like msi gtx 760 or above
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June 10, 2014 11:31:26 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($118.48 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI H97M-E35 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.92 @ Amazon)
Video Card: HIS Radeon R7 250X 1GB Video Card ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H22 ATX Mid Tower Case ($33.03 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/RSBS DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $494.38
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-10 14:30 EDT-0400)
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June 10, 2014 12:10:29 PM

KryssNova said:
ali saqib said:
Well i have arranged money for ps4 but i was thinking that ps4 doesnt supports backwards compatiblity like ps3/2 games.
so pc can play both games.help me to choose what.budget would be 500$.
Pc specs:-
Intel core i3 4130
Geforce GTX 650 ti
4gb ram
dont know about other things
anyway tell me will this be enough to play next gen games on 1280x1024 thats my final resolution.


Got more friends which play with you, that plays on console, get a console.
You invite friends or family members to visit often to play, get a console.
You like sports games, racing games, games that play better with controller, get a console.

If you have more PC gaming friends, get a PC.
Also if most of above is wrong, then get a PC.

I think you would still need better Graphic Card, to play Next Gen games on Ultra at good frames at that resolution.



I dont have any freind that plays Ps4/3
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June 10, 2014 12:13:36 PM

rds1220 said:
Never had a console and never will. It's no better than an OEM computer, actually as crappy as OEM computers are I would take one over a console. Atleast it can still sort of be upgraded and even with weaker parts it's still more powerful than a console. PC graphics are better, CPU is better and you can do what you want with it not what Microsoft or Sony tells you, you can do with it.


How can u say that???I search for benchmarks ps4 vs pc(not specs that i have mentioned but still a great pc)
same resolution ps4 60fps and pc only 35fps i dont know the games.
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June 10, 2014 12:16:29 PM

logainofhades said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($118.48 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI H97M-E35 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.92 @ Amazon)
Video Card: HIS Radeon R7 250X 1GB Video Card ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H22 ATX Mid Tower Case ($33.03 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/RSBS DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $494.38
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-10 14:30 EDT-0400)


the parts u have mention are great but not common in my country pakistan.
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June 10, 2014 12:21:36 PM

ali saqib said:
rds1220 said:
Never had a console and never will. It's no better than an OEM computer, actually as crappy as OEM computers are I would take one over a console. Atleast it can still sort of be upgraded and even with weaker parts it's still more powerful than a console. PC graphics are better, CPU is better and you can do what you want with it not what Microsoft or Sony tells you, you can do with it.


How can u say that???I search for benchmarks ps4 vs pc(not specs that i have mentioned but still a great pc)
same resolution ps4 60fps and pc only 35fps i dont know the games.


Consoles have forced FPS. Which means they have to be at always 30 or 60 FPS stable.
What they do is either lower resolution your playing on (which makes image less crisper from closer distance), people usually sit away from TV at longer distances, so no problem there.
and then they either lower the graphical setting by lot.

If you don't care about graphical settings get a PS4, cause PC is about playing on High Graphic settings.
I don't know what game you saw, but that is just a gimmick then, any current game released both on consoles and PC, never run better or even same as a Gaming PC. It always run worse, and therefore most people are crying on the game trailers about it. PC that PC version got less optimized and graphical downgraded to fit a console version.
While console gamers, cry about why the game doesn't look as good as on trailer, which was made on High-End PC.
Also games on consoles always run lower setting on something, usually both resolutions and graphic settings, compared to PC.
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June 10, 2014 12:29:29 PM

ali saqib said:
rds1220 said:
Never had a console and never will. It's no better than an OEM computer, actually as crappy as OEM computers are I would take one over a console. Atleast it can still sort of be upgraded and even with weaker parts it's still more powerful than a console. PC graphics are better, CPU is better and you can do what you want with it not what Microsoft or Sony tells you, you can do with it.


How can u say that???I search for benchmarks ps4 vs pc(not specs that i have mentioned but still a great pc)
same resolution ps4 60fps and pc only 35fps i dont know the games.


I would love to see those benchmarks because it sounds like a load. A pc with an I5 and a high-end graphics card will beat a console, hell even with an I3 and a mid range graphics the PC would still be better. Not to mention I would like to see you get better frame rates at higher than 1080 (2XXX or 4XXX resolution) on a big screen tv. There are so many reasons why a PC is better then consoles.

1) Mouse and keyboard easier to use than controllers.

2) You can play at high/ulra resolutions with all setting maxed and still get good frame rates. The default res on consoles is around 1280x1024 even a low end computer with an I3 and entry level video card can do that so a high end computer can easily beat that.

3) Hardware can be upgraded

4) Unlimited storage

5) Cheaper games even when used

6) Better/ stronger harder.

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June 10, 2014 12:33:40 PM

ali saqib said:
Well i have arranged money for ps4 but i was thinking that ps4 doesnt supports backwards compatiblity like ps3/2 games.
so pc can play both games.help me to choose what.budget would be 500$.
Pc specs:-
Intel core i3 4130
Geforce GTX 650 ti
4gb ram
dont know about other things
anyway tell me will this be enough to play next gen games on 1280x1024 thats my final resolution.


I'd get the PC.
You can upgrade it in the future, you can do work on it, and games are cheaper.
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June 10, 2014 12:43:58 PM

It's all banal (unoriginal) arguments in regards to comparing the two. It really comes down to software. If you find the games coming out for the PS4 to be worth it then it might justify the buy. But they're really two different products, you can do alot more with the PC, but just because you can doesn't mean you will. Yes the hardware is better, but if the software doesn't excite you then it's all pointless. E3 just happened so tons of new games were announced to the PS4, some of those titles might entice you to buy.

I know i'm being the devils advocate to a degree in this thread, but that PC really isn't going to cut it and upgrading will just cost you more. Yes the experience once you upgrade will arguably be better, you'd still have to spend more. The PS4 has an advantage against a low end system, especially if you just want to game.

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June 10, 2014 1:27:43 PM

A gaming pc will end up paying for itself very quickly due to how cheap the games get on sale and they drop in price quickly too. It just depends. I honestly only use a mouse for FPS games like bf4, on everything else I use a xbox 360 controller. I personally very much enjoy sitting back in my chair and relaxing with the controller.

I was a lifelong console player until the end of 2012 when I built my good pc and it was the best choice I ever made. PC all the way. The consoles are just 720p games with tweaked settings so even a cheap GPU now can play stuff on 720p high/ultra like the r7 250x

Although it's lame as hell sony started charging for the online on ps4....paying for online multiplayer is a joke IMO, at least it's free on PC.


I'd honestly go with the PC and get an xbox controller if you like to use it.

I also can't stand the ghetto and "gangsta" people online that plague the consoles it seems.....urgh and the little kids too screaming in games.
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June 10, 2014 2:52:26 PM

Okay, from reading these responses and some of the typical fan-boy noise, either you're not sure or this is a troll thread. But, here's my answer to your question.

Coming from a person who's been a console only person my entire life, and just recently left laptop pc gaming and moved on to full featured custom built pc (because my PS3 broke). I'd say get both if you have the money. The nerds may say "KM+M is betteh then a stupid controllah, Omgz bettah graphix and modz *foams at the mouth*" <--That right there is false, It's only truly better in MOBAs, FPS (IF there is no controller support) and RPGS like W.o.W. Graphics part I can say is true, BUT to an extent. And the mods are only truly there to extend a game's replay-ability. Everything else is just opinions and vanity. It's like when they were clowning the PS360 about no 1080p last year and the year before, and now the PS4/XB1 can and what is it now? "Weak consoles can't even handle 4K gaming, such trash".

Get a console if don't ever plan on upgrading your hardware, want to play console exclusives, want to have some nice local multiplayer games/split screen without fear that a dev didn't think you needed it, more friends play on consoles, you want system security (meaning if one part fails you could just send it back, get it replaced, and boom your back gaming in no time), and plan on playing games on day one without any hiccups or fear your system wont be able to run it.

Get a PC if none of that applies to you, you have a bit of technical knowledge and you have money to spend.

OR

like I said get both. I for one have a new PS3 and a gaming PC. I don't have a PS4/XB1, and I'm waiting for the prices to fall and the library is larger.
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June 10, 2014 2:52:54 PM

WhiteSnake91 said:

I also can't stand the ghetto and "gangsta" people online that plague the consoles it seems.....urgh and the little kids too screaming in games.


Trust me, online PC games are not much better. Play WoW and sit in trade chat in a city for awhile.
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June 10, 2014 2:59:02 PM

ali saqib said:
Well i have arranged money for ps4 but i was thinking that ps4 doesnt supports backwards compatiblity like ps3/2 games.
so pc can play both games.help me to choose what.budget would be 500$.
Pc specs:-
Intel core i3 4130
Geforce GTX 650 ti
4gb ram
dont know about other things
anyway tell me will this be enough to play next gen games on 1280x1024 thats my final resolution.


PC beats consoles any day. However to play next gen games, you will need 8GB of RAM and a a better CPU that is either Quad-Core or 8-core not the 2-core Intel Core i3 you mentioned. I would recommend the Intel Core i5-4670k 3.4 GHz Quad-Core which is around £155 but is great for playing next gen games.
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June 10, 2014 3:05:01 PM

On a funny note years ago when I went through two broken 360s, one with a bad disc tray that was brand new, and then a used model that lasted a year and a half till it got the RROD, I thought replacing the thermal paste was the most complex thing EVER haha....now with my knowledge of pc's if I were to get another console and something break, with a little reading on what/how to replace, I'm much more confident in my abilities to fix it.

with the xbox price drop due to them ditching the kinect I wouldn't mind getting one around the time the master chief collection comes out, good memories playing it with friends on system link. I wish they would at least come out with a 1tb model. I don't like how the internal hdd isn't upgradable on the xbox like how it is on the ps4. They claimed you can now use external storage for xbox,but, the read/write speeds aren't going to be as good, and if anything it'll make the experience worse for everybody since you have to wait for everybody to load into a multiplayer match/lobby IIRC


kinda like how people would install halo 3 to a flashdrive but it was actually pretty detrimental to its performance doing that, so lobbies/matches started taking awhile to load sometimes for everybody

not much on either console worth owning right now.....not till at least nov for the xbox getting the master chief collection for me. I guarantee they probably make some special halo edition xbox bundled with the game too :p 
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June 10, 2014 3:35:37 PM

jkarateking said:
ali saqib said:
Well i have arranged money for ps4 but i was thinking that ps4 doesnt supports backwards compatiblity like ps3/2 games.
so pc can play both games.help me to choose what.budget would be 500$.
Pc specs:-
Intel core i3 4130
Geforce GTX 650 ti
4gb ram
dont know about other things
anyway tell me will this be enough to play next gen games on 1280x1024 thats my final resolution.


PC beats consoles any day. However to play next gen games, you will need 8GB of RAM and a a better CPU that is either Quad-Core or 8-core not the 2-core Intel Core i3 you mentioned. I would recommend the Intel Core i5-4670k 3.4 GHz Quad-Core which is around £155 but is great for playing next gen games.


A Haswell i3 will be fine. If OP was to get an i5 it would severely eat into the budget, simply not an option.
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June 11, 2014 1:52:15 AM

ok fine.just tell me the specs i have mentioned will be enough to kill the ps4
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June 11, 2014 2:16:55 AM

yeah it should play them on your lower resolution decent, just don't have alot of stuff running in the background, recently others have come here saying their system is lagging when they're running a demanding game and also have other programs/browser open and it used up all the i3s cores to 100% . It's only a dual core with hyperthreading, and honestly your amount of ram is low and gpu isn't that great but it should suffice on 720p, don't expect everything maxed out and 60fps though or to be running alot of programs in the back.

If you were to be, an fx6300 would be better for multitasking
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June 11, 2014 6:25:13 AM

simply go for PC, forgot PS4. due to wide ranges of PC games is easily available over internet
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June 11, 2014 6:33:47 AM

vijenderrinku said:
simply go for PC, forgot PS4. due to wide ranges of PC games is easily available over internet


You do still forget - not everything is better just because of "DA POWR"... As i mentioned earlier, things simply work on console, where on a pc it might be crappy console port, wrong OS, software problems and so much more, whereas the ps4/xbox one just works.
Also - if the thing doesnt work on a console, it is probably the hardware being faulty, and should be replaced unless there is a known "software level" problem.
On pc it could really be just everything messing it up.
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June 11, 2014 11:10:07 AM

WhiteSnake91 said:
yeah it should play them on your lower resolution decent, just don't have alot of stuff running in the background, recently others have come here saying their system is lagging when they're running a demanding game and also have other programs/browser open and it used up all the i3s cores to 100% . It's only a dual core with hyperthreading, and honestly your amount of ram is low and gpu isn't that great but it should suffice on 720p, don't expect everything maxed out and 60fps though or to be running alot of programs in the back.

If you were to be, an fx6300 would be better for multitasking


:o  no amd in pakistan :o 
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June 11, 2014 12:13:19 PM

Order online?
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June 11, 2014 2:13:55 PM

Problem is how much is it going to cost for shipping especially if it's air mail.
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June 12, 2014 1:27:33 AM

RunAwaySlave said:
Order online?


no amd in online pakistan websites.but can be order from usa or other countries but expensive
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June 12, 2014 3:51:12 AM

if that's all you can get right now, I'd get the pc and it's not like you can never save up again to upgrade the pc more or to even get a ps4 later on. There's just nothing right now on either console that is worth shelling out the 400+ tax for the console, and then 60bucks EACH for new games.....Since being a pc gamer for awhile now, it makes me sick to my stomach and cringe when I think about getting each game at 60 bucks each. I typically get new releases for pretty much half off. Stuff on pc drops in price QUICK and the pc ends up paying for itself quickly.


It sucks ram prices went up....for the price only 4gb costs right now, when I built my pc at the end of 2012, I was able to get 8gb of the expensive (now) black low profile version of Corsair Vengeance ram.....now when I look it's like ~90bucks compared to 30something when I bought it. Haha I could probably flip it on ebay and make a huge profit then get some cheap g.skill on sale and call it a day >_>
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June 12, 2014 6:59:01 AM

Oh yea - if you dont have an income, you would have problems on the playstation as it is pay for online at the moment just like xbox.
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June 12, 2014 8:24:55 AM

With a low budget and gaming as a priority, I would generally recommend a console (the PS4) over a PC.

Consoles are good in that any game released for that console no matter what year it is released will be playable. So if you have the PS4 and you buy a game that is released for it in 2020, you will still be able to play the game and everyone who owns a PS4 will have the same experience you will have.

The same cannot be said for PCs. New CPUs, new graphics cards are always getting released so hardware improves as the years progresses. A new PS4 bought this year vs a new PS4 purchased in 2020 will have the same hardware. PC gaming is "bleeding edge" because newer more powerful hardware means game developers can push the performance envelop as time progresses. This means that newer are generally more demanding than older games and requires better hardware to get the best performance.

You will likely still be able to play a 2020 PC game on a PC purchased in 2014, but it's performance would not be as good compared to a more current PC. For example, I can still play games with my Core 2 Quad Q9450 CPU (from 2008; $350) and Radeon HD 5850 (from 2009; $280), but not quite as well as compared to more current PCs. They were considered "high end components" when released. If I built my PC using lower performance (less expensive) parts, then naturally, the performance in current games would be even lower.

The good (and bad) thing about a console like the PS4 is that you cannot upgrade it. Once you purchase it that's it, you don't need to spend more money on hardware (except maybe another controller).

The good (and bad) thing about PCs is that it can be upgraded to keep pace with more demanding games. Of course, this means over the years you will be spending money just to keep your PC current.


One last thing to consider are the games themselves. What games do you want to play? Are any exclusive to the PS4? Are any exclusive to PCs? If the types of games you want to play on one platform seems rather limited compared to the other platform, then that also makes a difference.

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June 14, 2014 11:44:25 AM

my budget goes down to 400$ exact to ps4 price so will this help for gaming.
Specs:
Core i3 4150
r7 250x
4gb ram
120gb ssd
help ok if i upgrade my lcd(in the future)to resolution 1600x900 should this would be enough.
sorry for bad english
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June 14, 2014 12:33:23 PM

400 dollars is not a lot for a gaming rig, so i would say go console if you dont have enough for something a bit better in graphics.
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June 14, 2014 1:20:55 PM

if you were to buy a ps4 your game selection is very thin and the games cost more than the pc versions do. The i3 and r7 250x isn't a bad pair, don't expect ultra settings at 1080p with 60fps, the console can't do that either. Most console titles are 720p on high settings or in the case of the stronger ps4, 1600x900 on high-ish settings. I'd still get the pc, you can always upgrade it later, people act like a budget build is the end of the world, but a pc can always be upgraded later for better performance
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June 15, 2014 12:57:47 AM

WhiteSnake91 said:
if you were to buy a ps4 your game selection is very thin and the games cost more than the pc versions do. The i3 and r7 250x isn't a bad pair, don't expect ultra settings at 1080p with 60fps, the console can't do that either. Most console titles are 720p on high settings or in the case of the stronger ps4, 1600x900 on high-ish settings. I'd still get the pc, you can always upgrade it later, people act like a budget build is the end of the world, but a pc can always be upgraded later for better performance


thx for replying.can u plz tell me what should i buy in pc:HDD or SSD

Update:this website where i buy pc
www.czone.com.pk
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June 15, 2014 1:57:48 AM

With a low budget like yours(400$), it would be smartest to stick with a cheap hdd and spend more on graphics. Then later on, it would be really easy just to upgrade to a SSD
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June 15, 2014 2:12:31 AM

yeah just go for good capacity HDD, SSD is just so windows and games would load quicker but on a budget I'd go HDD. I don't know how much it costs there, but here a 1tb HDD is only $60...500gb usually only go for 5-10 dollars cheaper so pretty much everybody would just rather spend 5 more bucks for double the capacity
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July 4, 2014 9:36:49 PM

I personally recommend AMD, with the same amount of money you can build a much more powerful PC
Try FX 4300 or 6300 then spend most of your money on the GPU.
this will be the smartest choice
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July 4, 2014 11:23:05 PM

Just noting that the PS4 will only get better from here on in (compare Resistance: Fall of Man to Uncharted 3/Resistance 3/The Last of Us for PS3). The early games on consoles are nowhere near representative of what games will be like, as there is a lot of untapped techniques that the developers of PS4 games haven't yet looked into. To get the equivalent of a PS4 you will have to spend 2x as much on a PC for similar performance.

Consoles aren't really worth getting as nothing good comes out at first. However, there will be games next year and the year after that will make you want a PS4. I'm buying a PS4 at the end of this year so I can play the games I enjoy. It's up to you but a PS4 for US$400 is better value than a $400 PC.
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