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June 10, 2014 9:17:57 PM

I am building a new gaming computer for ~$1000, having no previous experience. Before I started, I barely knew the difference between a GPU and a CPU, but since I had friends who knew lots about computers and their parts, I asked them, and gradually I learned more and more, but keep in mind when answering I am nowhere near being an expert. I am looking for the best 'bang for the buck', although that's a given, and would probably buy the build by beginning of July. I just got a job though, so the longer I wait, the more I can pay for specific parts.
I will mostly use this computer for RTS games and some games like Battlefield 4, Payday 2, and anything else that catches my fancy, so I would like something that's good in all areas.

Here is the link to the build I have so far, but what would you change?

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/sWQdrH

I also already have another, decent monitor, but would like to be going on two.

Thank you!

PS. Sorry if this is in the wrong thread or something like that, first time on this site.
a b 4 Gaming
June 10, 2014 9:24:06 PM

Nothing really too bad. But then the NZXT Phantom 410 cost a lot, and you can do with less; namely the Corsair 300D.
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a b 4 Gaming
June 10, 2014 9:24:06 PM

Nice build but by the time you buy the 4690k will be out for the same price so that will be the better choice
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June 10, 2014 9:27:26 PM

okcnaline said:
Nothing really too bad. But then the NZXT Phantom 410 cost a lot, and you can do with less; namely the Corsair 300D.


Jameson Clark said:
Nice build but by the time you buy the 4690k will be out for the same price so that will be the better choice


Ok, I'll keep both in mind. I found the phantom looked awesome, but overpriced, and I will probably switch it out.

When does the 4690k come out?
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a b 4 Gaming
June 10, 2014 9:31:55 PM

with haswell cpu pick up 1866 or faster ram. also with the 280 gpu yu want a god 750w power supply. a 550-650w may have the amps/wattage needed on the 12v rail but with a gaming pc it better to oversize the power supply. also with power supplys make sure there haswell tested or the intel c6/c7 tested. if not if the pc put to sleep it shut down with c6 turned on as older power supplys cant supply the low voltage the cpu needs when sleeping.
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June 10, 2014 9:33:59 PM

smorizio said:
with haswell cpu pick up 1866 or faster ram. also with the 280 gpu yu want a god 750w power supply. a 550-650w may have the amps/wattage needed on the 12v rail but with a gaming pc it better to oversize the power supply. also with power supplys make sure there haswell tested or the intel c6/c7 tested. if not if the pc put to sleep it shut down with c6 turned on as older power supplys cant supply the low voltage the cpu needs when sleeping.


What ram and power supply do you reccomend?
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a b 4 Gaming
June 10, 2014 9:38:04 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($249.99 @ NCIX)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($32.50 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($124.99 @ NCIX)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($84.77 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.16 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Superclocked ACX Video Card ($349.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($71.49 @ DirectCanada)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ NCIX)
Monitor: Asus VS228H-P 21.5" Monitor ($149.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $1182.86
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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June 10, 2014 9:47:18 PM

Should I use ksham's list? Any other modifications? Should I wait for the 4690? What does everyone else think?
EDIT: Also I picked the 280x because there is a massive sale. Is it not worth it? Should I get the 770 (which was actually my original choice)?
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a b 4 Gaming
June 10, 2014 9:59:42 PM

the 280x or the 770 is fine. if the 280x is on sale then go for it.
if the price of the 4690 is the same as the older cpu go for the newer one.
PCPartPicker part list: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/64cxbv
Price breakdown by merchant: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/64cxbv/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/64cxbv/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($249.99 @ NCIX)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($32.50 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($118.00 @ Vuugo)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($93.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.99 @ Memory Express)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280X 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($264.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($119.99 @ Memory Express)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($104.99 @ NCIX)
Monitor: Acer H226HQLbid 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($150.58 @ DirectCanada)
Total: $1220.00
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-11 00:59 EDT-0400)
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June 10, 2014 10:06:38 PM

I would go for a bigger screen. 24 inch at least.

27 inch might be too "pixely" if the native resolution is 1920x1080, or so I heard.
I have a 24 inch with 1920x1080, don't see any pixels. Just upgraded from 21.5. I had to squint to see stuff (I blame old age =).

And for the case, I would go with something that has 3-4 fans at least. Or room for 4. 120mm-140mm.
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June 10, 2014 10:08:31 PM

smorizio said:
the 280x or the 770 is fine. if the 280x is on sale then go for it.
if the price of the 4690 is the same as the older cpu go for the newer one.
PCPartPicker part list: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/64cxbv
Price breakdown by merchant: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/64cxbv/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/64cxbv/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($249.99 @ NCIX)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($32.50 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($118.00 @ Vuugo)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($93.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.99 @ Memory Express)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280X 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($264.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($119.99 @ Memory Express)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($104.99 @ NCIX)
Monitor: Acer H226HQLbid 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($150.58 @ DirectCanada)
Total: $1220.00
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-11 00:59 EDT-0400)


Sorry probably very stupid question: Is there a difference between the i5 4690S and the i5 4690k?
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a b 4 Gaming
June 10, 2014 10:15:00 PM

the s and t are low power chips. you dont want them.
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June 11, 2014 8:35:19 AM

smorizio said:
the s and t are low power chips. you dont want them.


Ok thanks. Also, I was looking at some Phantom reviews, and apparently the Phantom 2 is pretty cramped (and overpriced), should I switch it out for the Corsair 300R? Or my friend has the H440. Which should I get?
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a b 4 Gaming
June 11, 2014 6:14:48 PM

I would say the Corsair 300D because it's quite big, could accommodate a GTX 780 Ti (at least) and cheap and simple.
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June 22, 2014 2:44:38 PM

I was thinking of purchasing the MSI 280x, but upon looking up reviews it seems at least half of them have pretty big fan problems. You may want to look into it, maybe MSI has recently fixed the problem?
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June 27, 2014 9:12:01 PM

Grego12 said:
I was thinking of purchasing the MSI 280x, but upon looking up reviews it seems at least half of them have pretty big fan problems. You may want to look into it, maybe MSI has recently fixed the problem?


I saw that, but I thought that although half of the reviews say it doesn't work, doesn't mean half of the cards don't work, because people tend to comment more when things don't work than when they do. I have also started buying my pc, here is the new part list. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/z6bMTW
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June 27, 2014 9:42:57 PM

I just ordered a real similar build, except with an asus MOBO, corsair 300r, and evga 750W. I also went with the XFX 280x Black edition oc'd, mainly because xfx offers a lifetime warranty on their cards. Your build looks pretty good though!
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June 27, 2014 10:13:30 PM

What is the link to your graphics card? I'll take it if it's better, I haven't ordered it yet.
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June 29, 2014 3:41:14 PM

That looks a little pricey right now, and I've heard a lot of good things about the Asus Radeon R9 280X 3GB DirectCU Video Card, so I think I'm going to go with that one. Is that one better in your opinion for it's price ($300)?
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June 29, 2014 7:06:30 PM

Well I'm not sure about better, but Asus cards are great they're probably extremely similar in performance and $300 is a good price. You couldn't go wrong with either in my opinion.
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