PC advice and/or upgrading

Knickerboxer

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I have several questions for you guys on here:

A. I want to run league of legends and similar games at the highest fps with my current stuff. I think the video card i bought should be able to go above 60 fps, since that is what my cheap laptop can run it at, but i'm not sure how. Do i need a better monitor?

B. The max ram for my board is 16gb, and i put two 8gb sticks in, I'm not sure if this matters or not for long term performance or if I should be worried about damage to my motherboard, since it has 4 ram slots. They have been working fine thus far. I tried putting 24 gb in, and cpu-z registered it, but the system itself did not. Is there some way to force the system to use more than the max ram?

C. Should I upgrade my CPU? Like i said, I do a fair amount of gaming, and I like to game well. I found some used 8-core processors that will fit my board, but is $100 worthit?

D. Also, what does hpet timer mean? should i enable it?


My specs are as follows: (from cpu-z, tried to weed out all the useless info)

CPU-Z TXT Report
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Binaries
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CPU-Z version 1.69.2.x64

Processors
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Number of processors 1
Number of threads 4

APICs
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Processor 0
-- Core 0
-- Thread 0 0
-- Core 1
-- Thread 0 1
-- Core 2
-- Thread 0 2
-- Core 3
-- Thread 0 3

Timers
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ACPI timer 3.580 MHz
HPET timer 25.000 MHz
Perf timer 2.734 MHz
Sys timer 1.000 KHz


Processors Information
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Processor 1 ID = 0
Number of cores 4 (max 4)
Number of threads 4 (max 4)
Name AMD Athlon II X4 630
Codename Propus
Specification AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 630 Processor
Package Socket AM3 (938)
CPUID F.5.2
Extended CPUID 10.5
Brand ID 8
Core Stepping BL-C2
Technology 45 nm
TDP Limit 93 Watts
Core Speed 2799.8 MHz
Multiplier x Bus Speed 14.0 x 200.0 MHz
HT Link speed 1999.9 MHz
Stock frequency 2800 MHz
Instructions sets MMX (+), 3DNow! (+), SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSE4A, x86-64, AMD-V
L1 Data cache 4 x 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L1 Instruction cache 4 x 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L2 cache 4 x 512 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64-byte line size
FID/VID Control yes
FID range 4.0x - 14.0x
Max VID 1.400 V
# of P-States 4
P-State FID 0xC - VID 0x0C - IDD 18 (14.00x - 1.400 V)
P-State FID 0x5 - VID 0x14 - IDD 15 (10.50x - 1.300 V)
P-State FID 0x0 - VID 0x1C - IDD 14 (8.00x - 1.200 V)
P-State FID 0x100 - VID 0x24 - IDD 9 (4.00x - 1.100 V)


Package Type 0x1
Model 30
String 1 0xA
String 2 0x6
Page 0x0
CmpCap 4
ApicIdCoreSize 4
TDC Limit 72 Amps
Boosted P-States 0
Max non-turbo ratio 14.00x
Max turbo ratio 14.00x
Max CPU COF 28
Core Performance Boost no
P-State 0, FID 0xC - VID 0x0C (14.00x - 1.400 V)
P-State 1, FID 0x5 - VID 0x14 (10.50x - 1.300 V)
P-State 2, FID 0x0 - VID 0x1C (8.00x - 1.200 V)
P-State 3, FID 0x100 - VID 0x24 (4.00x - 1.100 V)
Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 0
Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 1
Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 2
Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 3
Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 4
TSC 2800.0 MHz
PERFEVT 2799.9 MHz



Chipset
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Northbridge NVIDIA nForce 720a rev. A2
Southbridge NVIDIA nForce 720a MCP rev. A2
Graphic Interface PCI-Express
PCI-E Link Width x16
PCI-E Max Link Width x16
Memory Type DDR3
Memory Size 16 GBytes
Channels Single
Memory Frequency 533.3 MHz (3:8)
CAS# latency (CL) 7.0
RAS# to CAS# delay (tRCD) 7
RAS# Precharge (tRP) 7
Cycle Time (tRAS) 19
Bank Cycle Time (tRC) 26
Command Rate (CR) 1T
Uncore Frequency 1999.9 MHz

Memory SPD
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DIMM # 1
SMBus address 0x50
Memory type DDR3
Module format UDIMM
Manufacturer (ID) Patriot Memory (7F7F7F7F7F020000)
Size 8192 MBytes
Max bandwidth PC3-12800 (800 MHz)
Part number PSD38G16002
Number of banks 8
Nominal Voltage 1.50 Volts
EPP no
XMP no
AMP no
JEDEC timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency
JEDEC #1 5.0-5-5-14-19 @ 380 MHz
JEDEC #2 6.0-6-6-16-22 @ 457 MHz
JEDEC #3 7.0-7-7-19-26 @ 533 MHz
JEDEC #4 8.0-8-8-22-30 @ 609 MHz
JEDEC #5 9.0-9-9-24-33 @ 685 MHz
JEDEC #6 10.0-10-10-27-37 @ 761 MHz
JEDEC #7 11.0-11-11-28-39 @ 800 MHz

DIMM # 2
SMBus address 0x52
Memory type DDR3
Module format UDIMM
Manufacturer (ID) Patriot Memory (7F7F7F7F7F020000)
Size 8192 MBytes
Max bandwidth PC3-12800 (800 MHz)
Part number PSD38G16002
Number of banks 8
Nominal Voltage 1.50 Volts
EPP no
XMP no
AMP no
JEDEC timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency
JEDEC #1 5.0-5-5-14-19 @ 380 MHz
JEDEC #2 6.0-6-6-16-22 @ 457 MHz
JEDEC #3 7.0-7-7-19-26 @ 533 MHz
JEDEC #4 8.0-8-8-22-30 @ 609 MHz
JEDEC #5 9.0-9-9-24-33 @ 685 MHz
JEDEC #6 10.0-10-10-27-37 @ 761 MHz
JEDEC #7 11.0-11-11-28-39 @ 800 MHz
DMI
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DMI BIOS
vendor American Megatrends Inc.
version 5.13
date 11/12/2009
ROM size 1024 KB

DMI System Information
manufacturer HP-Pavilion
product AY747AA-ABA p6310y
version unknown
serial CNX95218DQ
UUID {8DD262A8-F2B7-11DE-B838-FD07C5DE5314}
SKU AY747AA#ABA
family 103C_53316J

DMI Baseboard
vendor PEGATRON CORPORATION
model VIOLET6
revision 6.01
serial 103050280001665

DMI System Enclosure
manufacturer Hewlett-Packard
chassis type Desktop
chassis serial Chassis Serial Number

DMI Processor
manufacturer AMD
model AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 630 Processor
clock speed 2800.0 MHz
FSB speed 200.0 MHz
multiplier 14.0x


DMI Physical Memory Array
location Motherboard
usage System Memory
correction None
max capacity 16384 MBytes
max# of devices 4

DMI Memory Device
designation DIMM0
format unknown
type unknown

DMI Memory Device
designation DIMM1
format unknown
type unknown

DMI Memory Device
designation DIMM2
format unknown
type unknown

DMI Memory Device
designation DIMM3
format unknown
type unknown


Storage
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Drive 0
Device Path \\?\scsi#disk&ven_st315003&prod_41as#4&2136d104&0&020200#{53f56307-b6bf-11d0-94f2-00a0c91efb8b}
Type Fixed
Name ST315003 41AS
Capacity 1397.3 GB
SMART Support Yes

Drive 1
Device Path \\?\scsi#disk&ven_st350041&prod_8as#4&2136d104&0&030300#{53f56307-b6bf-11d0-94f2-00a0c91efb8b}
Type Fixed
Name ST350041 8AS
Capacity 465.8 GB
SMART Support Yes

Drive 2
Device Path \\?\scsi#disk&ven_wdc_wd10&prod_eads-65m2b0#4&2136d104&0&000000#{53f56307-b6bf-11d0-94f2-00a0c91efb8b}
Type Fixed
Name WDC WD10 EADS-65M2B0
Capacity 931.5 GB
SMART Support Yes
Graphics
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Number of adapters 1

Graphic APIs
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API NVIDIA I/O
API NVIDIA NVAPI

Display Adapters
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Display adapter 0
Name NVIDIA GeForce GT 640
Board Manufacturer EVGA Corp.
Revision A2
Memory size 2 GB
PCI device bus 2 (0x2), device 0 (0x0), function 0 (0x0)
Vendor ID 0x10DE (0x3842)
Model ID 0x0FC1 (0x3645)
Performance Level 2D Desktop
Core clock 324.0 MHz
Memory clock 324.0 MHz
Performance Level 3D Applications
Core clock 928.0 MHz
Memory clock 915.0 MHz

Win32_VideoController AdapterRAM = 0x80000000 (2147483648)
Win32_VideoController DriverVersion = 9.18.13.697
Win32_VideoController DriverDate = 10/02/2012

Software
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Windows Version Microsoft Windows 7 (6.1) Home Premium Edition 64-bit (Build 7600)
DirectX Version 11.0
 

emdea22

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Classic case of being confused by the retarded marketing. More RAM doesn't mean higher performance. 8 gb is more than enough for gaming. Most of the games use 4gb SYSTEM RAM.

Your ram not registering is probably a limitation of your OS (Home premium) but you've got more than you need anyway. Adding ram will not make a game run faster!!! RAM only makes a game work or not work.

Your CPU is of old architecture thats mostly why you get low fps in some games. You have a weak /core performance, a recent quad core will kill that cpu. On the other hand your graphics card is also weak, as with system ram, having a lot of VRAM is only good if your GPU is fast enough to use it.

All in all if you only play moba and mmo's your cpu is the main bottleneck. However your motherboard is socket AM3 that means you won't be able to upgrade to an am3+ cpu like the 6 core/8 core ones. Your only hope is to find a Phenom II x4 clocked as high as possible (at least 3.4Ghz)

Don't get Phenom II x6 as its slower than x4

For your other questions:
Monitor has nothing to do with the fps your getting. Only at higher fps (120+) will a 3d monitor come in handy (supposedly)
Your board is using the nforce chipset which is one of the most retarded motherboard chips i've had the opportunity to work with. That said, hpet timer is basically an intel tech used with MMX for synchronizing audio streams and such, it shouldn't have an effect on games but if your audio is cutting out/stuttering then you can try to enable it.
 

Knickerboxer

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I bought my video card about 6 months ago, it couldn't be that outdated already, could it? Also, I got the ram for free so thats not that big of an issue. Im just concerned about it being 8gbx2 instead of 4gbx4, and if it could possibly damage my board. Will a processor upgrade get me 80 fps+ fps then? Or are there other things I need to do/get? Also, will any am3 processor work? or do I need an am3 socket 938?

Link to my Video card: http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-2048MB-Graphics-02G-P4-2643-KR/dp/B0086UXQES

Link to a possible ebay processors: http://www.ebay.com/itm/AMD-FX-8320-8-CORE-BLACK-EDITION-PROCESSOR-3-5-GHZ-8-MB-/301206216681?pt=CPUs&hash=item46214a1fe9
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=121340609651&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en
http://www.ebay.com/itm/AMD-FX-8150-3-6-GHz-Eight-Core-FD8150FRW8KGU-Processor-/271519367258?pt=CPUs&hash=item3f37d0c05a

 

emdea22

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I can buy a video card right now and be shit for games. It doesn't matter when you bought it. Any card under $150 is gonna be shit for games. If you want 60+ fps in all games you should look at a new system completely with just the video card costing $400 or more.
 

Tyler Mann

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RAM issue is kinda weird i don't think it being home premium matters as a 64 bit OS could theoretically run TBs of RAM (i think the highest motherboards go is 128 in the X99 Intel series which are brand new $200+ boards) and a 32 bit being capped at 4 GB (dont know 16 bit but if you are using a 16 bit OS i want a copy :p and you should really upgrade) could be a messed up setting in BIOS (had some weird things happen with my laptop where i had 8GB but it only recognized like 3GB and randomly recognized all 8 without messing with anything). or something similar to that weird thing which i still dont know why it took weeks to recognize the change. as for graphics yeah youll wanna go with soemthing over the $150 range as about the 150 range running on 1080p you can not expect anything over 15-20 FPS if you are like me however and can only run 720p than it might work for lower end games at $150-$200 range (LoL ran well on my laptop which had a AMD Athlon P340 II Dual core CPU with ATI Mobility with Radeon 4250 HD Integrated graphics) (really bad graphics its like $200 laptop)